President Kamala Harris...

On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 03:08:15 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Bill Sloman Idiot wrote:

=========================


Americans can\'t stand a dishonest liar. Americans prefer liars who are
honest about it.

** The finest politicians are REALLY competent liars.

It\'s more about leading the public to think the way the politicians want them to think. Lying is a rather unsubtle way of doing that, and has downsides.

** Politicians follow - not lead.

The public mostly want impossible things, polys oblige by lying.

They may not be lying. They are just flexible about what they believe.

Most people, especially \"people people\", really are that way. They
believe what they perceive other people around them believe. That
makes for interesting group dynamics.


It\'s in the nature of the job - telling lies voters want to hear.

Not so difficult really.

Not getting caught is trickier.


** You cannot get \"caught\" telling folk what the WANT to hear.

Cos you are only reflecting their thoughts back to them.

Problem is, the public are seriously fickle.

That\'s the group dynamics. Bell-bottom jeans. Gluten-free. Masks.


Means the other team wins the next election ...

Ain\'t democracy wonderful ?

It\'s a noisy process but works fairly well.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"
 
On 9/9/2020 10:41 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

Lunatic cultural background, if you can call it that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGRfeTeGmgc

Pathetic track record of corruption and incompetence:

https://medium.com/@moon_bat/the-troubling-past-of-kamala-harris-f017207333cb

Biden will be dead within months of election if it goes their way, and Harris will be president.

There are tons of ways - besides just waiting - that the dems could
push him out and get the first female President of color. Their
problem now is to keep him looking reasonably functional long enough
to get him elected.

Biden\'s DNC speech clocked in at under 30 min and he seemed competent
enough, surely no worse than Reagan in his second term.

The teleprompter seemed like a good idea, if they could get him to
read the right parts coherently. It must be frustrating to be part of
his handler team. I expect some great books about that some day.

\"I say we should outlaw teleprompters … for anybody running for
president.” - Trump, 2016

I counted about 25 teleprompter-turns in the first half of Trump\'s RNC
address before I lost count (thought Obama was the teleprompter-prez),
maybe he doesn\'t figure running for President is what he\'s doing, though.

He did start ad-libbing heavily about 2/3rds of the way through the very
ponderous late-night assault on insomnia, it did clock in at under 90
minutes but felt like three times that. It was well past 3/4ths of the
audience\'s bedtime when he finished.

Some consider brevity to be a virtue.

All sorts of things get revealed if you wave a $10 million book
advance in front of some people. Some of those things may even be
true.
 
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 12:55:45 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 03:08:15 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
palli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bill Sloman Idiot wrote:

=========================


Americans can\'t stand a dishonest liar. Americans prefer liars who are
honest about it.

** The finest politicians are REALLY competent liars.

It\'s more about leading the public to think the way the politicians want them to think. Lying is a rather unsubtle way of doing that, and has downsides.

** Politicians follow - not lead.

The public mostly want impossible things, polys oblige by lying.
They may not be lying. They are just flexible about what they believe.

Or simply gullible.

Most people, especially \"people people\", really are that way. They
believe what they perceive other people around them believe. That
makes for interesting group dynamics.

Only if you find hanging around with gullible people tolerable. Some of us don\'t.

It\'s in the nature of the job - telling lies voters want to hear.

Not so difficult really.

Not getting caught is trickier.


** You cannot get \"caught\" telling folk what the WANT to hear.

Cos you are only reflecting their thoughts back to them.

Problem is, the public are seriously fickle.

That\'s the group dynamics. Bell-bottom jeans. Gluten-free. Masks.

You can fool some of the people some of the time. It\'s not a dependable market.

Means the other team wins the next election ...

Ain\'t democracy wonderful ?

It\'s a noisy process but works fairly well.

Except when you get stuck with an incompetent egomaniac like Trump, and end up with 586 per million dead from an avoidable epidemic.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 9/9/2020 10:41 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

Lunatic cultural background, if you can call it that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGRfeTeGmgc

Pathetic track record of corruption and incompetence:

https://medium.com/@moon_bat/the-troubling-past-of-kamala-harris-f017207333cb

Biden will be dead within months of election if it goes their way, and Harris will be president.

There are tons of ways - besides just waiting - that the dems could
push him out and get the first female President of color. Their
problem now is to keep him looking reasonably functional long enough
to get him elected.

There were hundreds of ways the GOP could have pushed George HW Bush out
and made Dan Quayle the first Jack Kennedy.
 
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 10:41:34 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote:

Lunatic cultural background, if you can call it that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGRfeTeGmgc

Pathetic track record of corruption and incompetence:

https://medium.com/@moon_bat/the-troubling-past-of-kamala-harris-f017207333cb

Biden will be dead within months of election if it goes their way, and Harris will be president.
There are tons of ways - besides just waiting - that the dems could
push him out and get the first female President of color. Their
problem now is to keep him looking reasonably functional long enough
to get him elected.

The teleprompter seemed like a good idea, if they could get him to
read the right parts coherently. It must be frustrating to be part of
his handler team. I expect some great books about that some day.

What teleprompter? I bet they were reading it to him <slowly> in his earpiece.

They need to start doing the same with Kamala in her phony interviews, she\'s pathetic.


All sorts of things get revealed if you wave a $10 million book
advance in front of some people. Some of those things may even be
true.
--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"
 
Bill Sloman is full of crape:

================

** The finest politicians are REALLY competent liars.

** Politicians follow - not lead.


The public mostly want impossible things, polys oblige by lying.

It\'s in the nature of the job - telling lies voters want to hear.

Not so difficult really.

Not getting caught is trickier.

** You cannot get \"caught\" telling folk what they WANT to hear.

The population isn\'t uniform enough that everybody wants to hear exactly the same story.

** The ones likely to vote for you are on all the same bus - the others do not matter cos they are being lied to by and different poly.

The lies are mainly in the form of fake promises ( won\'t get carried out or are useless anyhow ) and fake analyses of the current situation. Like using fake panics and fake slurs on the opposition.

Massive amounts of that going on the US right now.
Democracy is failing badly there.


...... Phil
 
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 1:03:01 AM UTC+10, bitrex wrote:
On 9/9/2020 10:41 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

I counted about 25 teleprompter-turns in the first half of Trump\'s RNC
address before I lost count (thought Obama was the teleprompter-prez),
maybe he doesn\'t figure running for President is what he\'s doing, though.

He did start ad-libbing heavily about 2/3rds of the way through the very
ponderous late-night assault on insomnia, it did clock in at under 90
minutes but felt like three times that. It was well past 3/4ths of the
audience\'s bedtime when he finished.

Some consider brevity to be a virtue.

When what you have to say is as potty as Trump\'s output, brevity has a lot going for it.

<snip>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 12:17:06 PM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:

> 1. progressive left is dead set against ...

I\'ve never identified myself as \'progressive\', \'recessive\', nor \'left\', though sometimes
I\'m right... nor have most voters... that group name is as meaningless as \'silent majority\'
 
On 9/9/2020 10:43 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 1:03:01 AM UTC+10, bitrex wrote:
On 9/9/2020 10:41 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote:

snip

I counted about 25 teleprompter-turns in the first half of Trump\'s RNC
address before I lost count (thought Obama was the teleprompter-prez),
maybe he doesn\'t figure running for President is what he\'s doing, though.

He did start ad-libbing heavily about 2/3rds of the way through the very
ponderous late-night assault on insomnia, it did clock in at under 90
minutes but felt like three times that. It was well past 3/4ths of the
audience\'s bedtime when he finished.

Some consider brevity to be a virtue.

When what you have to say is as potty as Trump\'s output, brevity has a lot going for it.

snip

It had been thought that Trump\'s (lack of) Covid response was simply the
usual incompetence, turns out from the Woodward tapes it was actually
malice. What did he know and when did he know it? Seems he knew quite a
lot and believed it himself but didn\'t see fit to reveal that in public.
 
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 12:22:53 PM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> Bill Sloman is full of crape:

Phil Allison has become a top poster, and he seems to have lost his capacity to spell.

He probably means I\'m full of crap - which to say that I\'m not full of his kind of crap.

He might have meant that I was full of crepe, which would be an even more bizarre idea, but Phil is full of bizarre idea.

<snipped whatever it was that Phil might have been reacting to>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:01:13 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 12:22:53 PM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
Bill Sloman is full of crape:

Phil Allison has become a top poster, and he seems to have lost his capacity to spell.

He probably means I\'m full of crap - which to say that I\'m not full of his kind of crap.

He might have meant that I was full of crepe, which would be an even more bizarre idea, but Phil is full of bizarre idea.

snipped whatever it was that Phil might have been reacting to

--
SL0W MAN, Sydney

LOL! SL0W MAN, you can\'t even spell \"STUPD\" or use the correct plural form of \"idea.\" Those that throw verbal stones shouldn\'t live in glass houses!!
 
On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 12:33:52 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:01:13 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 12:22:53 PM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
Bill Sloman is full of crape:

Phil Allison has become a top poster, and he seems to have lost his capacity to spell.

He probably means I\'m full of crap - which to say that I\'m not full of his kind of crap.

He might have meant that I was full of crepe, which would be an even more bizarre idea, but Phil is full of bizarre idea.

snipped whatever it was that Phil might have been reacting to

Those that throw verbal stones shouldn\'t live in glass houses!!

We all make typo\'s, in the same way that we all makes speech errors. It\'s worth exploiting them for comic effect, but they don\'t signify anything interesting - even when you collect a lot of them and them into a slanderous video.

Somebody like you, who posts completely idiotic misapprehensions more or less non-stop, won\'t be aware of that. You aren\'t aware of much at all, and your own idiocy isn\'t obvious to you.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
> Xi seems to be competent, if something of a control freak.

Yes, the explicit CCP goal is to control the World. The entire World should be controlled by him.

Competent? Did you know that he did not finish primary school? His only qualification is the \"second generation little pink\". He managed to alienate every countries around him, as well as far away in America and Europe.

Biden said he will reverse tariffs and sanctions once elected.
They are doing more damage to the US economy than they are to the Chinese economy.

That\'s the result of previous decades, and exactly the reason why we should not continue this way.

> China has lots of countries to trade with.

Not for long.
 
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 1:05:32 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
bitrex wrote:

==================

Americans can\'t stand a dishonest liar. Americans prefer liars who are
honest about it.


** The finest politicians are REALLY competent liars.

It\'s in the nature of the job - telling lies voters want to hear.

Not so difficult really.

I don\'t recall who it was that said, success in politics is all about sincerity. If you can fake that, you\'ve got it made.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Wed, 09 Sep 2020 07:41:18 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

Lunatic cultural background, if you can call it that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGRfeTeGmgc

Pathetic track record of corruption and incompetence:

https://medium.com/@moon_bat/the-troubling-past-of-kamala-harris-f017207333cb

Biden will be dead within months of election if it goes their way, and Harris will be president.

There are tons of ways - besides just waiting - that the dems could
push him out and get the first female President of color. Their
problem now is to keep him looking reasonably functional long enough
to get him elected.

He seems to be so far gone that he can\'t manage interviews from
friendly reporters. He is apparently reading teleprompter text from
people helping him respond. And he\'s not even very good at that. No
surprise that people don\'t want him to debate T.

It was said the Breshnev was one step from clinically dead, but the
government machinery still propped him up. And I met Senator Hale
Boggs once. His handlers literally had to hold him up and steer him
around and nudge him to shake hands.




--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 2:49:37 AM UTC+10, Edward Lee wrote:
On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
Xi seems to be competent, if something of a control freak.

Yes, the explicit CCP goal is to control the World. The entire World should be controlled by him.

The Roman Catholic Church, and various sects of Islam have much the same goal. Nobody takes them seriously.

> Competent? Did you know that he did not finish primary school? His only qualification is the \"second generation little pink\". He managed to alienate every countries around him, as well as far away in America and Europe.

There are people around who can get educated without teachers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodidacticism

Xi does seem to have had a lot of on-the-job training. I\'ve done quite a bit of that, if not in areas where Xi is competent.

Biden said he will reverse tariffs and sanctions once elected.

They are doing more damage to the US economy than they are to the Chinese economy.

That\'s the result of previous decades, and exactly the reason why we should not continue this way.

But the bad US policies didn\'t have anything to do with China - look up banana republics sometime.

China has lots of countries to trade with.

Not for long.

Dream on. Australia loves selling stuff to China. They try to lean on us by buying some stuff - more expensively - from other suppliers, but we just sell it to other people until they see sense. There are a lot of countries to trade with, and few of them are run by people as silly about control as Xi or Trump.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 7:37:09 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 09 Sep 2020 07:41:18 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

Lunatic cultural background, if you can call it that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGRfeTeGmgc

Pathetic track record of corruption and incompetence:

https://medium.com/@moon_bat/the-troubling-past-of-kamala-harris-f017207333cb

Biden will be dead within months of election if it goes their way, and Harris will be president.

There are tons of ways - besides just waiting - that the dems could
push him out and get the first female President of color. Their
problem now is to keep him looking reasonably functional long enough
to get him elected.

He seems to be so far gone that he can\'t manage interviews from
friendly reporters. He is apparently reading teleprompter text from
people helping him respond. And he\'s not even very good at that. No
surprise that people don\'t want him to debate T.

It was said the Breshnev was one step from clinically dead, but the
government machinery still propped him up. And I met Senator Hale
Boggs once. His handlers literally had to hold him up and steer him
around and nudge him to shake hands.




--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
la

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

Biden is a mere puppet of the extreme Left - they don\'t expect him to last long, but he DOES have to make it thru the debates, which is why I expect him to bail on them.
 
On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 10:21:09 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 2:49:37 AM UTC+10, Edward Lee wrote:
On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
Xi seems to be competent, if something of a control freak.

Yes, the explicit CCP goal is to control the World. The entire World should be controlled by him.

The Roman Catholic Church, and various sects of Islam have much the same goal. Nobody takes them seriously.

Competent? Did you know that he did not finish primary school? His only qualification is the \"second generation little pink\". He managed to alienate every countries around him, as well as far away in America and Europe.

There are people around who can get educated without teachers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodidacticism

Xi does seem to have had a lot of on-the-job training. I\'ve done quite a bit of that, if not in areas where Xi is competent.

Biden said he will reverse tariffs and sanctions once elected.

They are doing more damage to the US economy than they are to the Chinese economy.

That\'s the result of previous decades, and exactly the reason why we should not continue this way.

But the bad US policies didn\'t have anything to do with China - look up banana republics sometime.

China has lots of countries to trade with.

Not for long.

Dream on. Australia loves selling stuff to China. They try to lean on us by buying some stuff - more expensively - from other suppliers, but we just sell it to other people until they see sense. There are a lot of countries to trade with, and few of them are run by people as silly about control as Xi or Trump.

--
SL0W MAN, Sydney

Hey SL0W MAN,

You and your fellow Australians are in bed with the MOST ruthless country man has EVER known. It is just a matter of time until they take you over, but you are TOO STUPID to understand that. OZ relies on the US to keep China at bay - REMEMBER THAT!
 
On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 7:06:15 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 9:06:22 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:

There\'s no \'libtard\' in my dictionary,
PLENTY of people use libtard, but that doesn\'t matter - you ARE one, THAT\'S what matters!

This is all reminiscent of poet Ezra Pound, after his WWII collaboration in Italy, who
was spared from the gallows by being declared insane. He called his
doctors \"kikiatrists\".
 
On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:58:13 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 7:37:09 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 09 Sep 2020 07:41:18 -0700, John Larkin
jjla...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> Biden is a mere puppet of the extreme Left - they don\'t expect him to last long, but he DOES have to make it thru the debates, which is why I expect him to bail on them.

Flyguy does loves posting utterly fatuous nonsense.

If there is any extreme left in the USA, they aren\'t anywhere near close enough to the people who run the Democratic Party to have any influence on Biden.

Flyguy suffers from the usual right-wing idiot problem, which sees anybody who doesn\'t support their extremist right-wing idiocy as extreme left.

The rational middle ground doesn\'t register with them at all.

Getting wound up about the debates before anything is set up is equally idiotic.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 

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