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Rick C

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Working on a gadget that uses a 12 volt motor (10 amp peak) and misc electronics running on lower voltages. It is powered from an external PSU like a laptop supply, but 12 volts. There is also a sealed lead acid battery for backup when the power fails.

This design uses pairs of pFETs to route the power from the 12 volts input when present, or the battery when the line is not present. There is also a means of shutting down all power.

Initially when designing this there was a problem with shoot through from the battery at a slightly higher voltage than the line power initially. Then I added the capacitors present on the motor circuit which helped. But that made large surge currents in the capacitors when the power is shut on or off.

I\'m hoping someone can make some suggestions. I\'ve run out of ideas on how the time the turn on of one switch and turn off of the other while also bringing up the power slowly to reduce the inrush of the capacitors.

Here is the LTspice schematics. I didn\'t use anything not in the LTspice library.

Thanks,

Rick

Version 4
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SYMBOL voltage -704 -480 R0
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SYMATTR InstName M2
SYMATTR Value AOD4185
SYMBOL pmos 416 -528 R270
WINDOW 0 88 38 VRight 2
WINDOW 3 65 -21 VRight 2
SYMATTR InstName M3
SYMATTR Value AOD4185
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WINDOW 3 61 8 Left 2
SYMATTR InstName M8
SYMATTR Value 2N7002
SYMBOL Comparators\\\\LTC1841 -464 -80 M180
WINDOW 0 -10 49 Right 2
WINDOW 3 28 -15 Left 2
SYMATTR InstName U1
SYMBOL polcap 224 -544 R0
WINDOW 3 24 56 Left 2
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SYMATTR Type cap
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WINDOW 3 24 56 Left 2
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SYMATTR Type cap
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SYMBOL voltage 848 16 R0
WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 0
WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 0
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WINDOW 0 -25 84 Right 2
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SYMBOL cap 496 128 R90
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WINDOW 3 -12 29 VLeft 2
SYMATTR InstName C3
SYMATTR Value 22nF
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WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 0
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WINDOW 3 -12 57 VLeft 2
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WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 0
WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 0
WINDOW 3 -16 101 Invisible 2
WINDOW 0 -25 84 Right 2
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WINDOW 3 12 96 Left 2
SYMATTR InstName S1
TEXT 160 -384 Left 3 !.tran 1sec
TEXT -552 -544 Left 2 ;Nominal range\\n11.4 < Vin < 12.6
TEXT -600 -224 Left 2 ;11.2V rising,\\n10.6V falling
TEXT 656 -160 Left 3 ;To Control Board
TEXT 560 160 Left 3 ;From Control Board
TEXT -664 -608 Left 2 !.model SW sw(Ron=0.001 Roff=10Meg vt=0.5)
 
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