OT Re: Best defense is a better Offense for COVID-19 not just a defense with holes....

In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake, Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet can be corrected for < $10/yr. I never once showed references to advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.

Groetjes Albert
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On 11/11/2020 6:47 AM, albert wrote:
In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake, Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet can be corrected for < $10/yr. I never once showed references to advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.

Groetjes Albert

Not only that, but my dermatologist says to cover up or wear sun blocker
when outside to avoid skin cancer.

Does sun blocker prevent your body from processing the vitamin D?

That\'s why I take 5000 IU of D3 daily.
 
On 11/11/2020 16:19, John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 6:47 AM, albert wrote:
In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart  <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake,  Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet can
be corrected for < $10/yr.  I never once showed references to
advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.

Not only that, but my dermatologist says to cover up or wear sun blocker
when outside to avoid skin cancer.

Does sun blocker prevent your body from processing the vitamin D?

Absolutely - without the UV reaching the skin vitamin D synthesis and
tanning cannot occur. That and video gaming is why we have seen a
recurrence of Victorian era diseases like rickets in school age children :(

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/victorian-disease-gout-rickets-vitamin-d-mumps-scurvy-measles-malnutrition-nhs-hospital-admitted-a8795686.html

> That\'s why I take 5000 IU of D3 daily.

That seems a bit on the high side.
UK daily recommended dose of vitamin D is 400 IU (10ug) ISTR US is 800.

I am taking it at 20ug/day now that winter is upon us. I wouldn\'t
normally bother but this year with Covid is different. In summer I spend
enough time outside not to worry about a deficiency but right now we
hardly ever see the sun and almost no UV at all - only grey clouds.

Vitamin D is marginally toxic if you take enough of it although I think
you have to consume it to excess for quite a while. Vitamin A is worse.
The odd explorer has been lethally poisoned by eating polar bear liver.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/we-alaskans/2017/02/05/the-perils-of-eating-polar-bear/

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 11:59:01 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2020 16:19, John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 6:47 AM, albert wrote:
In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart  <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake,  Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet can
be corrected for < $10/yr.  I never once showed references to
advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.

Not only that, but my dermatologist says to cover up or wear sun blocker
when outside to avoid skin cancer.

Does sun blocker prevent your body from processing the vitamin D?

Absolutely - without the UV reaching the skin vitamin D synthesis and
tanning cannot occur. That and video gaming is why we have seen a
recurrence of Victorian era diseases like rickets in school age children :(

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/victorian-disease-gout-rickets-vitamin-d-mumps-scurvy-measles-malnutrition-nhs-hospital-admitted-a8795686.html

That\'s why I take 5000 IU of D3 daily.

That seems a bit on the high side.
UK daily recommended dose of vitamin D is 400 IU (10ug) ISTR US is 800.

I am taking it at 20ug/day now that winter is upon us. I wouldn\'t
normally bother but this year with Covid is different. In summer I spend
enough time outside not to worry about a deficiency but right now we
hardly ever see the sun and almost no UV at all - only grey clouds.

Vitamin D is marginally toxic if you take enough of it although I think
you have to consume it to excess for quite a while. Vitamin A is worse.
The odd explorer has been lethally poisoned by eating polar bear liver.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/we-alaskans/2017/02/05/the-perils-of-eating-polar-bear/

Polar bear liver aside, there are many medical issues caused by living a modern lifestyle without proper diet and exercise.

I wonder if the polar bear toxicity is an evolutionary response to predation by humans?

--

Rick C.

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onsdag den 11. november 2020 kl. 21.41.42 UTC+1 skrev Rickster C:
On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 11:59:01 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2020 16:19, John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 6:47 AM, albert wrote:
In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart  <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake,  Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet can
be corrected for < $10/yr.  I never once showed references to
advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.

Not only that, but my dermatologist says to cover up or wear sun blocker
when outside to avoid skin cancer.

Does sun blocker prevent your body from processing the vitamin D?

Absolutely - without the UV reaching the skin vitamin D synthesis and
tanning cannot occur. That and video gaming is why we have seen a
recurrence of Victorian era diseases like rickets in school age children :(

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/victorian-disease-gout-rickets-vitamin-d-mumps-scurvy-measles-malnutrition-nhs-hospital-admitted-a8795686.html

That\'s why I take 5000 IU of D3 daily.

That seems a bit on the high side.
UK daily recommended dose of vitamin D is 400 IU (10ug) ISTR US is 800.

I am taking it at 20ug/day now that winter is upon us. I wouldn\'t
normally bother but this year with Covid is different. In summer I spend
enough time outside not to worry about a deficiency but right now we
hardly ever see the sun and almost no UV at all - only grey clouds.

Vitamin D is marginally toxic if you take enough of it although I think
you have to consume it to excess for quite a while. Vitamin A is worse.
The odd explorer has been lethally poisoned by eating polar bear liver.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/we-alaskans/2017/02/05/the-perils-of-eating-polar-bear/

Polar bear liver aside, there are many medical issues caused by living a modern lifestyle without proper diet and exercise.

I wonder if the polar bear toxicity is an evolutionary response to predation by humans?

afaiu it is not only polar bears but also many other carnivores that have extreme levels of vitamins in their liver
 
In article <roh58a$12ih$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Martin Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

That\'s why I take 5000 IU of D3 daily.

That seems a bit on the high side.
UK daily recommended dose of vitamin D is 400 IU (10ug) ISTR US is 800.

The Endocrine Society seems to be recommending at least 600-800 IU/day
for adults above the age of 50, and acknowledges that higher intakes
(at least 1500-2000 IU per day) may be needed in some cases to raise
the blood level of vitamin D to the desirable level (above 30
nanograms/ML). Doses of up to 3x higher may be needed for those
taking certain medications.

They recommend a maximum intake of 4000 IU/day for most adults, except
in those being treated for Vitamin D deficiency... this level seems
to be well-tolerated.

Vitamin D is marginally toxic if you take enough of it although I think
you have to consume it to excess for quite a while.

According to the Mayo Clinic:

\"The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in
your blood (hypercalcemia), which can cause nausea and vomiting,
weakness, and frequent urination. Vitamin D toxicity might progress to
bone pain and kidney problems, such as the formation of calcium
stones.

\"Treatment includes stopping vitamin D intake and restricting dietary
calcium. Your doctor might also prescribe intravenous fluids and
medications, such as corticosteroids or bisphosphonates.

\"Taking 60,000 international units (IU) a day of vitamin D for several
months has been shown to cause toxicity. This level is many times
higher than the U.S. Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for most
adults of 600 IU of vitamin D a day.\"

That\'s a big overdose!
 
On 11/11/2020 10:58 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2020 16:19, John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 6:47 AM, albert wrote:
In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart  <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake,  Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet
can be corrected for < $10/yr.  I never once showed references to
advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.

Not only that, but my dermatologist says to cover up or wear sun
blocker when outside to avoid skin cancer.

Does sun blocker prevent your body from processing the vitamin D?

Absolutely - without the UV reaching the skin vitamin D synthesis and
tanning cannot occur. That and video gaming is why we have seen a
recurrence of Victorian era diseases like rickets in school age children :(

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/victorian-disease-gout-rickets-vitamin-d-mumps-scurvy-measles-malnutrition-nhs-hospital-admitted-a8795686.html


That\'s why I take 5000 IU of D3 daily.

That seems a bit on the high side.
UK daily recommended dose of vitamin D is 400 IU (10ug) ISTR US is 800.

I think that dose is for children, according to your link. My doctor has
not objected to my dose. OTOH, I\'ve seen online that the max should be
4000 IU for an adult. Maybe I should do one dose every two days or
something like that.

I am taking it at 20ug/day now that winter is upon us. I wouldn\'t
normally bother but this year with Covid is different. In summer I spend
enough time outside not to worry about a deficiency but right now we
hardly ever see the sun and almost no UV at all - only grey clouds.

Vitamin D is marginally toxic if you take enough of it although I think
you have to consume it to excess for quite a while. Vitamin A is worse.
The odd explorer has been lethally poisoned by eating polar bear liver.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/we-alaskans/2017/02/05/the-perils-of-eating-polar-bear/

Yes, I have been aware of that fact for some time. But, according to
your link, the danger is from vitamin A. There is no mention of vitamin
D3 there. Also, I don\'t plan to eat any part of the liver from the
various animals mentioned.

Many thanks for your links. I\'ve learned a lot.
 
On 2020/06/11 3:37 p.m., Anthony Stewart wrote:
Staying away only slows down the Emergency overload. eventually everyone in public gets the Flu, Cold and will get COVID-19.

The ignorance in leadership and medical advice is clear from the CDC, Fauci and Trump.

Far better advice has been around for months.
....

Is it like saying you are republican in Hollywood. (Career ending.)

Really? Have these actors coreers ended?

https://www.ranker.com/list/actors-republican-actor-and-conservative-actors-list/famous-conservatives

John ;-#)#
 
On 11/11/2020 5:53 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/06/11 3:37 p.m., Anthony Stewart wrote:
Staying away only slows down the Emergency overload. eventually
everyone in public gets the Flu, Cold and will get COVID-19.

The ignorance in leadership and medical advice is clear from the CDC,
Fauci and Trump.

Far better advice has been around for months.
...

Is it like saying you are republican in Hollywood. (Career ending.)

Really? Have these actors coreers ended?

https://www.ranker.com/list/actors-republican-actor-and-conservative-actors-list/famous-conservatives


John ;-#)#

Won\'t come up.
 
On 2020/11/11 4:05 p.m., John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 5:53 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/06/11 3:37 p.m., Anthony Stewart wrote:
Staying away only slows down the Emergency overload. eventually
everyone in public gets the Flu, Cold and will get COVID-19.

The ignorance in leadership and medical advice is clear from the CDC,
Fauci and Trump.

Far better advice has been around for months.
...

Is it like saying you are republican in Hollywood. (Career ending.)

Really? Have these actors coreers ended?

https://www.ranker.com/list/actors-republican-actor-and-conservative-actors-list/famous-conservatives


John ;-#)#

Won\'t come up.

I just tried the above link again and it works for me here in Canada,
perhaps it is blocked if you are at work?

John :-#)#
 
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:44:33 PM UTC+11, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/11/11 4:05 p.m., John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 5:53 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/06/11 3:37 p.m., Anthony Stewart wrote:
Staying away only slows down the Emergency overload. eventually
everyone in public gets the Flu, Cold and will get COVID-19.

The ignorance in leadership and medical advice is clear from the CDC,
Fauci and Trump.

Far better advice has been around for months.
...

Is it like saying you are republican in Hollywood. (Career ending.)

Really? Have these actors careers ended?

Many of them have. Death does put an end to an acting career.

https://www.ranker.com/list/actors-republican-actor-and-conservative-actors-list/famous-conservatives

Won\'t come up.

I just tried the above link again and it works for me here in Canada, perhaps it is blocked if you are at work?

Works for me in Australia too.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 11/11/2020 22:13, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
onsdag den 11. november 2020 kl. 21.41.42 UTC+1 skrev Rickster C:
On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 11:59:01 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown
wrote:
Vitamin D is marginally toxic if you take enough of it although I
think you have to consume it to excess for quite a while. Vitamin
A is worse. The odd explorer has been lethally poisoned by eating
polar bear liver.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/we-alaskans/2017/02/05/the-perils-of-eating-polar-bear/
Polar bear liver aside, there are many medical issues caused by living a
modern lifestyle without proper diet and exercise.
I wonder if the polar bear toxicity is an evolutionary response to
predation by humans?


afaiu it is not only polar bears but also many other carnivores that
have extreme levels of vitamins in their liver

Yes, but I think polar bears\' livers are the record-holders. AFAIK
polar bear livers are the only part of a mammal that is classified as
\"toxic\", due to the vitamin A levels. (Of course it is total quantity
that is the main factor in whether you are poisoned or not.)
 
On 11/11/2020 13:47, albert wrote:
In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake, Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet can be corrected for < $10/yr. I never once showed references to advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.

Norway has just started a large study of cod liver oil (a major source
of vitamin D, plus some other useful oils and nutrients), to see if it
has any statistical effect on Covid.

A spoonful of cod liver oil a day is not likely to do you any harm
(unless you are currently overdosing on other vitamin supplements). But
it remains to be seen how much, if at all, it helps against Covid.
 
On 11/11/2020 20:41, Rickster C wrote:
On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 11:59:01 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown
wrote:

Vitamin D is marginally toxic if you take enough of it although I
think you have to consume it to excess for quite a while. Vitamin A
is worse. The odd explorer has been lethally poisoned by eating
polar bear liver.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/we-alaskans/2017/02/05/the-perils-of-eating-polar-bear/


Polar bear liver aside, there are many medical issues caused by
living a modern lifestyle without proper diet and exercise.

The main one being that a couch potato would starve to death in short
order without the services of JustEat door to door pizza deliveries.

I wonder if the polar bear toxicity is an evolutionary response to
predation by humans?

More a side effect of being a top predator.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On 12/11/2020 08:24, David Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2020 13:47, albert wrote:
In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake, Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet can be corrected for < $10/yr. I never once showed references to advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.


Norway has just started a large study of cod liver oil (a major source
of vitamin D, plus some other useful oils and nutrients), to see if it
has any statistical effect on Covid.

A spoonful of cod liver oil a day is not likely to do you any harm
(unless you are currently overdosing on other vitamin supplements). But
it remains to be seen how much, if at all, it helps against Covid.

An interesting aside is that Finland which is doing much better than
almost every other country on Covid does fortify some foods with Vitamin
D. They were also much better prepared for pandemics (and invasion) than
almost anywhere else outside of the SARS affected SE Asian countries.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d-milk#vitamin-d-needs

https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/study_every_fifth_child_in_finland_has_a_vitamin_d_deficiency/10359988

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On 11/12/2020 12:51 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:44:33 PM UTC+11, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/11/11 4:05 p.m., John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 5:53 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/06/11 3:37 p.m., Anthony Stewart wrote:
Staying away only slows down the Emergency overload. eventually
everyone in public gets the Flu, Cold and will get COVID-19.

The ignorance in leadership and medical advice is clear from the CDC,
Fauci and Trump.

Far better advice has been around for months.
...

Is it like saying you are republican in Hollywood. (Career ending.)

Really? Have these actors careers ended?

Many of them have. Death does put an end to an acting career.

https://www.ranker.com/list/actors-republican-actor-and-conservative-actors-list/famous-conservatives

Won\'t come up.

I just tried the above link again and it works for me here in Canada, perhaps it is blocked if you are at work?

Works for me in Australia too.

Yes, it was Firefox that refused to load the page. I had to restart it
to make it work again. Weird.
 
On 11/11/2020 23:48, John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 10:58 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2020 16:19, John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 6:47 AM, albert wrote:
In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart  <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake,  Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet
can be corrected for < $10/yr.  I never once showed references to
advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian
origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.

Not only that, but my dermatologist says to cover up or wear sun
blocker when outside to avoid skin cancer.

Does sun blocker prevent your body from processing the vitamin D?

Absolutely - without the UV reaching the skin vitamin D synthesis and
tanning cannot occur. That and video gaming is why we have seen a
recurrence of Victorian era diseases like rickets in school age
children :(

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/victorian-disease-gout-rickets-vitamin-d-mumps-scurvy-measles-malnutrition-nhs-hospital-admitted-a8795686.html

That\'s why I take 5000 IU of D3 daily.

That seems a bit on the high side.
UK daily recommended dose of vitamin D is 400 IU (10ug) ISTR US is 800.

I think that dose is for children, according to your link. My doctor has
not objected to my dose. OTOH, I\'ve seen online that the max should be
4000 IU for an adult. Maybe I should do one dose every two days or
something like that.

No. It is officially for everyone aged 4 or over.

Here is the actual UK government report.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/537616/SACN_Vitamin_D_and_Health_report.pdf

They are becoming a little worried about people self medicating with
high doses of vitamin D against Covid - which is freely available in
supermarkets, pharmacies and health food stores.

It is certainly a lot safer than HCQ or intravenous Chlorox!


--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On 11/12/2020 7:31 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2020 23:48, John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 10:58 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2020 16:19, John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 6:47 AM, albert wrote:
In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart  <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake,  Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet
can be corrected for < $10/yr.  I never once showed references to
advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian
origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.

Not only that, but my dermatologist says to cover up or wear sun
blocker when outside to avoid skin cancer.

Does sun blocker prevent your body from processing the vitamin D?

Absolutely - without the UV reaching the skin vitamin D synthesis and
tanning cannot occur. That and video gaming is why we have seen a
recurrence of Victorian era diseases like rickets in school age
children :(

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/victorian-disease-gout-rickets-vitamin-d-mumps-scurvy-measles-malnutrition-nhs-hospital-admitted-a8795686.html

That\'s why I take 5000 IU of D3 daily.

That seems a bit on the high side.
UK daily recommended dose of vitamin D is 400 IU (10ug) ISTR US is 800.

I think that dose is for children, according to your link. My doctor
has not objected to my dose. OTOH, I\'ve seen online that the max
should be 4000 IU for an adult. Maybe I should do one dose every two
days or something like that.

No. It is officially for everyone aged 4 or over.

Here is the actual UK government report.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/537616/SACN_Vitamin_D_and_Health_report.pdf


They are becoming a little worried about people self medicating with
high doses of vitamin D against Covid - which is freely available in
supermarkets, pharmacies and health food stores.

It is certainly a lot safer than HCQ or intravenous Chlorox!

I\'m not taking it because of Covid but just because I\'m old and my
dermatologist says to stay out of the sun because I am susceptible to
skin cancer. So, I thought I needed a replacement.

I appreciate your advice and I will change my dose.
 
On 11/12/2020 7:31 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2020 23:48, John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 10:58 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2020 16:19, John S wrote:
On 11/11/2020 6:47 AM, albert wrote:
In article <0882da70-f63d-4354-80de-3450f05675ffo@googlegroups.com>,
Anthony Stewart  <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> wrote:
But make no mistake,  Vit D deficiency is real in wintertime, yet
can be corrected for < $10/yr.  I never once showed references to
advertising to support the
efficacy, only that huge profits are as fictitious as your arguments.

I just bough 600 doses for about 6 euro\'s at 1 cent per day.

A large part of Scandinavian early deaths were women of somalian
origin.
Staying indoors, wearing scrafs, somber climate.
They were severely deficient in vitamin D.
Source: if you have any doubt about the role of vitamine D,
see the youtube films of \"Dr. John Campbell\".
They tend to be long, because he goes in great detail.
Lot\'s of references and he never fails to mention whether or not
the references are peer-reviewed.

Not only that, but my dermatologist says to cover up or wear sun
blocker when outside to avoid skin cancer.

Does sun blocker prevent your body from processing the vitamin D?

Absolutely - without the UV reaching the skin vitamin D synthesis and
tanning cannot occur. That and video gaming is why we have seen a
recurrence of Victorian era diseases like rickets in school age
children :(

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/victorian-disease-gout-rickets-vitamin-d-mumps-scurvy-measles-malnutrition-nhs-hospital-admitted-a8795686.html

That\'s why I take 5000 IU of D3 daily.

That seems a bit on the high side.
UK daily recommended dose of vitamin D is 400 IU (10ug) ISTR US is 800.

I think that dose is for children, according to your link. My doctor
has not objected to my dose. OTOH, I\'ve seen online that the max
should be 4000 IU for an adult. Maybe I should do one dose every two
days or something like that.

No. It is officially for everyone aged 4 or over.

The link you posted says:

\"Public Health England recommends children aged one to four receive a
supplement containing 10 micrograms (400 IU) of vitamin D daily.\"


Here is the actual UK government report.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/537616/SACN_Vitamin_D_and_Health_report.pdf


They are becoming a little worried about people self medicating with
high doses of vitamin D against Covid - which is freely available in
supermarkets, pharmacies and health food stores.

It is certainly a lot safer than HCQ or intravenous Chlorox!
 

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