[OT] Raed colmpex txet pasasges vioedrd frsit and lsat leetr

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Scott Stephens

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Arinocdcg to rencet rseaerch, the hmuan brian is plrectfey albe to
raed colmpex pasasges of txet caiinontng wdors in whcih the lrettes
hvae been jmblued, pvioedrd the frsit and lsat leetrts rmeian in
teihr crcerot piiotsons.

The fcat taht you are ridenag tihs now wtih reaitvle esae is poorf of
the thoery.
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I wonder if neural nets and other pattern recognition algorithms can do
this too? I find its easier when I practice speed-reading, than looking
at each word.

Scott

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A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.
The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. - Ambrose Bierce

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"Scott Stephens" <scottxs@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Arinocdcg to rencet rseaerch, the hmuan brian is plrectfey albe to
raed colmpex pasasges of txet caiinontng wdors in whcih the lrettes
hvae been jmblued, pvioedrd the frsit and lsat leetrts rmeian in
teihr crcerot piiotsons.

The fcat taht you are ridenag tihs now wtih reaitvle esae is poorf of
the thoery.
Click to expand...

Wow, that's amazing! Talk about bad speeling. Err... I mean, I understood
almost every word on this post and most everything contained in that link.
Very peculiar.
 
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:33:51 -0700, Fritz Schlunder wrote:

"Scott Stephens" <scottxs@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:hYudnb7Q098pVtjfRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
http://www.businessballs.com/scrambledwords.htm

Arinocdcg to rencet rseaerch, the hmuan brian is plrectfey albe to
raed colmpex pasasges of txet caiinontng wdors in whcih the lrettes
hvae been jmblued, pvioedrd the frsit and lsat leetrts rmeian in
teihr crcerot piiotsons.

The fcat taht you are ridenag tihs now wtih reaitvle esae is poorf of
the thoery.

Wow, that's amazing! Talk about bad speeling. Err... I mean, I understood
almost every word on this post and most everything contained in that link.
Very peculiar.
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Thts knd of th wy shrthnd wrks nly rthr thn jmblng ltrs, u jst...

That *was* cool. So language/spelling instructors are just tax
revenue sinks, after a certain point in a kids edumacation..
--
Best Regards,
Mike
 
Active8 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:33:51 -0700, Fritz Schlunder wrote:


"Scott Stephens" <scottxs@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:hYudnb7Q098pVtjfRVn-vQ@comcast.com...

http://www.businessballs.com/scrambledwords.htm


Arinocdcg to rencet rseaerch, the hmuan brian is plrectfey albe to
raed colmpex pasasges of txet caiinontng wdors in whcih the lrettes
hvae been jmblued, pvioedrd the frsit and lsat leetrts rmeian in
teihr crcerot piiotsons.

The fcat taht you are ridenag tihs now wtih reaitvle esae is poorf of
the thoery.

Wow, that's amazing! Talk about bad speeling. Err... I mean, I understood
almost every word on this post and most everything contained in that link.
Very peculiar.


Thts knd of th wy shrthnd wrks nly rthr thn jmblng ltrs, u jst...

That *was* cool. So language/spelling instructors are just tax
revenue sinks, after a certain point in a kids edumacation..
Click to expand...
I think the trick is (for me anyways) to learn to read with phonics,
then get years of practice, then learn to speed-read, guessing at words
at a glance.

I doubt it will work if you don't teach (repetition) the proper spelling
first.

Scott

--
**********************************

DIY Piezo-Gyro, PCB Drill Bot & More Soon!
http://home.comcast.net/~scottxs/

POLITICS, n.
A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.
The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. - Ambrose Bierce

There is no giant behind the devastation of the world—only a shriveled
creature with the wizened
face of a child who is out to blow up the kitchen because he cannot
steal his cookies and eat them, too. - Ayn Rand
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:55:23 -0600, Scott Stephens wrote:

Active8 wrote:
snip

Thts knd of th wy shrthnd wrks nly rthr thn jmblng ltrs, u jst...

That *was* cool. So language/spelling instructors are just tax
revenue sinks, after a certain point in a kids edumacation..

I think the trick is (for me anyways) to learn to read with phonics,
then get years of practice, then learn to speed-read, guessing at words
at a glance.

I doubt it will work if you don't teach (repetition) the proper spelling
first.
Click to expand...
Right. "After a certain point..." is what I said. You'd need the
patterns in your head (like neural net/OCR.) Maybe some kind of
right brain connection, also. Once I realized I could read each
jumbled words you wrote, I speed read them. That's whaat was so cool
about it all, IMO.

Yeah. You wondered about neural nets. Been a while since I looked at
my book on that, but yeah. There are stored patterns and the net,
given a corrupted input, just spits out that pattern.
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Best Regards,
Mike
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:55:23 -0600, Scott Stephens wrote:

Active8 wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:33:51 -0700, Fritz Schlunder wrote:

"Scott Stephens" <scottxs@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:hYudnb7Q098pVtjfRVn-vQ@comcast.com...

http://www.businessballs.com/scrambledwords.htm


Arinocdcg to rencet rseaerch, the hmuan brian is plrectfey albe to
raed colmpex pasasges of txet caiinontng wdors in whcih the lrettes
hvae been jmblued, pvioedrd the frsit and lsat leetrts rmeian in
teihr crcerot piiotsons.

The fcat taht you are ridenag tihs now wtih reaitvle esae is poorf of
the thoery.

Wow, that's amazing! Talk about bad speeling. Err... I mean, I understood
almost every word on this post and most everything contained in that link.
Very peculiar.

Thts knd of th wy shrthnd wrks nly rthr thn jmblng ltrs, u jst...

That *was* cool. So language/spelling instructors are just tax
revenue sinks, after a certain point in a kids edumacation..

I think the trick is (for me anyways) to learn to read with phonics,
then get years of practice, then learn to speed-read, guessing at words
at a glance.

I doubt it will work if you don't teach (repetition) the proper spelling
first.
Click to expand...
More proof. You dropped the "p" from "pvioedrd" in the subject line
and I couldn't guess "provided".
--
Best Regards,
Mike
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:52:56 -0800, bigcat wrote:

Active8 wrote:

That *was* cool. So language/spelling instructors are just tax
revenue sinks, after a certain point in a kids edumacation..

no, as the purpose of spelling is not to enable communication at a
reasonably low error rate. It is primarily to present an instant image,
to let your readers know youre not a nitwit, so you get taken seriously
and minds and doors open.

Students that never learn proper spelling and grammar are always at a
disadvatnage. They can write the greatest piece and have it ignored.

Secondly it is to enable a much greater level of precision of meaning
than could ever be obtained with scrmabled words, and thus ability to
understand to much mroe depth.


The first of the explanations offered for the phenomenon looked to me
like no explanation at all. You cant recognise word meaning until you
know what the word is.

It is in learning to read faster that we skim words fast enough to take
in a whole word, or more, at one glance. Because we take in many
letters in parallel at once, their serial positions are relatively
little considered. This explains why scrambled can eb read fast, but
can not be read slow. In slow read mode, we read the letters serially,
and the serial data is badly corrupted. In parallel mode, its not far
from being correct, near enough to guess right mostly.
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I tnhik cextotn mekas a dfrcinefee. ;-)

Cehres!
Rcih
 
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:42:42 GMT, Rich Grise wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:52:56 -0800, bigcat wrote:

Active8 wrote:

That *was* cool. So language/spelling instructors are just tax
revenue sinks, after a certain point in a kids edumacation..

no, as the purpose of spelling is not to enable communication at a
reasonably low error rate. It is primarily to present an instant image,
to let your readers know youre not a nitwit, so you get taken seriously
and minds and doors open.

Students that never learn proper spelling and grammar are always at a
disadvatnage. They can write the greatest piece and have it ignored.

Secondly it is to enable a much greater level of precision of meaning
than could ever be obtained with scrmabled words, and thus ability to
understand to much mroe depth.

The first of the explanations offered for the phenomenon looked to me
like no explanation at all. You cant recognise word meaning until you
know what the word is.

It is in learning to read faster that we skim words fast enough to take
in a whole word, or more, at one glance. Because we take in many
letters in parallel at once, their serial positions are relatively
little considered. This explains why scrambled can eb read fast, but
can not be read slow. In slow read mode, we read the letters serially,
and the serial data is badly corrupted. In parallel mode, its not far
from being correct, near enough to guess right mostly.

I tnhik cextotn mekas a dfrcinefee. ;-)
Click to expand...
I think that was harder to read than if you had left the first and
last letters in the correct positions. And it's short, so it doesn't
lend itself to scanning/speed reading as well as a longer commo.
--
Best Regards,
Mike
 
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:37:55 -0500, Active8 wrote:

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:42:42 GMT, Rich Grise wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:52:56 -0800, bigcat wrote:

Active8 wrote:

That *was* cool. So language/spelling instructors are just tax
revenue sinks, after a certain point in a kids edumacation..

no, as the purpose of spelling is not to enable communication at a
reasonably low error rate. It is primarily to present an instant image,
to let your readers know youre not a nitwit, so you get taken seriously
and minds and doors open.

Students that never learn proper spelling and grammar are always at a
disadvatnage. They can write the greatest piece and have it ignored.

Secondly it is to enable a much greater level of precision of meaning
than could ever be obtained with scrmabled words, and thus ability to
understand to much mroe depth.

The first of the explanations offered for the phenomenon looked to me
like no explanation at all. You cant recognise word meaning until you
know what the word is.

It is in learning to read faster that we skim words fast enough to take
in a whole word, or more, at one glance. Because we take in many
letters in parallel at once, their serial positions are relatively
little considered. This explains why scrambled can eb read fast, but
can not be read slow. In slow read mode, we read the letters serially,
and the serial data is badly corrupted. In parallel mode, its not far
from being correct, near enough to guess right mostly.

I tnhik cextotn mekas a dfrcinefee. ;-)

I think that was harder to read than if you had left the first and
last letters in the correct positions. And it's short, so it doesn't
lend itself to scanning/speed reading as well as a longer commo.
Click to expand...
Aarg! I mispeeled coxtent. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich
 
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