OT: New Judge...

On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 4:02:37 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 8:51:59 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
Actually, chancellor Merkel\'s sexual perversions are not my main
concern.

I am concerned about Germany\'s INSANE energy policy, destroying
their own nuclear reactors. I fear it might be an omen of more bad
things to come from Germany. It won\'t be the first time, or the even
the second time. Why would a country go utterly insane against a
proven viable technology like nuclear power. Not the first time
Germany has gone INSANE. The world had better keep a close eye
on Germany.

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Am 19.09.20 um 22:49 schrieb John Doe:

Your chancellor Merkel gets off on watching little blonde German chicks
getting pounded to death by big black cocks.

Your fixation on BBCs explains a lot, including the
assault rifles. Got nothing else to shoot with?

Now keep your filthy nose out of our business.

As long as you try to impose your rotten laws on the rest
of the world it is not your business alone.

Germany is TOTALLY fucked up - they are shutting down CO2 ZERO power generators (nuke plants) and burning COAL to make up the difference. Their CO2 emissions have actually GONE UP!

Nuclear plant disasters are rather worse than climate change, and can happen a lot faster. Getting rid of fossil-carbon burning power plants is a long term project, and can\'t be done quickly.

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Hey SL0W MAN,

NO they aren\'t - how many MILLIONS have been killed by the burning of coal, you Dolt.
 
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:04:25 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 4:02:37 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 8:51:59 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
Actually, chancellor Merkel\'s sexual perversions are not my main
concern.

I am concerned about Germany\'s INSANE energy policy, destroying
their own nuclear reactors. I fear it might be an omen of more bad
things to come from Germany. It won\'t be the first time, or the even
the second time. Why would a country go utterly insane against a
proven viable technology like nuclear power. Not the first time
Germany has gone INSANE. The world had better keep a close eye
on Germany.

--
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Am 19.09.20 um 22:49 schrieb John Doe:

<snip>

Nuclear plant disasters are rather worse than climate change, and can happen a lot faster. Getting rid of fossil-carbon burning power plants is a long term project, and can\'t be done quickly.

NO they aren\'t - how many MILLIONS have been killed by the burning of coal,

Good question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London

killed about 4,000 people in a week, and persuaded the UK government to make it illegal to burn coal in fireplaces in London and quite a few other place.
The fine carbon particles emitted by diesel engines are even more deadly, but less obvious.

The radioactive radon that gets released when coal is burnt has probably delivered more gamma-ray damage than any and all the nuclear accidents to date, but Chernobyl still created a lot more panic and disruption, even if it didn\'t kill all that many people.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 9/20/2020 11:50 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

What would not be a good choice would be that political hack and braindead lackey Obama appointee in eastern Washington district court, Bastian, who just granted a preliminary injunction against changes DeJoy made at the USPS. No sane person could take his ruling seriously, never have seen such a childish charade from the federal judiciary before.

Lately judges are ruling according to what they feel is right, not
doing their job of interpreting the Constitution and the subsequent
laws. That\'s serious drift.

There have been numerous court decisions involving the 4th
Amendment where the justification for the ruling is little more than
\"It would be dangerous for police if it were to be otherwise\" hence
why a police officer can order you out of your car at any time for
more or less any reason and you must obey or you\'re a criminal for
not doing so.

Not anything the Constitution actually says.

The 4th Amendment hardly exists anymore it\'s been drifting away for
50 years...
 
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 4:05:02 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:17:12 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 9:53:46 AM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 9/19/2020 10:37 PM, Flyguy wrote:

<snip>

That just proves my point that this is all a subterfuge to get Kamala Harris in the oval office.

before Biden becomes more obviously incapacitated. It\'s going to be a
close thing.

Our resident gullible twits actually appear to believe Trump\'s election propaganda.

Trump\'s may have consulted Karl Rove a few months ago, but clearly didn\'t get the message about make the lies look vaguely plausible.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:32:36 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

<snip>

It\'s good for the plants, though. That\'s why despite massive
deforestation in many parts of the world, the level of CO2 in the
atmosphere has remained stable at just under 400ppm for over a hundred
years.

Actually, it hasn\'t.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauna_Loa_Observatory#/media/File:Mauna_Loa_CO2_monthly_mean_concentration.svg

It has gone up steadily from about 315ppm in 1958 to about 410 ppm today. What Cursitor Doom might be saying is that there were a few rather less careful measurements at the end of the last century which reported values around 400 ppm, and he\'s going to ignore all the other evidence because he doesn\'t like it. Maybe he was fed this nonsense by some climate change propaganda web-site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Monckton,_3rd_Viscount_Monckton_of_Brenchley

goes in for this kind of cherry-picking. Curistor Doom may be impressed by his title. The UK House of Lords isn\'t, and went to the trouble of pointing out that he\'s not a member.

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:32:28 +0100, Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:


but there is plenty of money in CO2, and Germanys C02 per kwh is about 10x that of France

It\'s good for the plants, though. That\'s why despite massive
deforestation in many parts of the world, the level of CO2 in the
atmosphere has remained stable at just under 400ppm for over a hundred
years.

Look at the longterm graphs. CO2 was 6000 PPM in the ages of huge life
expansion and evolution. We have lately been on a downslope that was
starving plants. How would you like your main food source to be 300
PPM nutrients?

Part of the green revolution, and the many-fold increase in
agricultural production in the last century, is from the extra CO2 we
have added to the atmosphere.

The extra CO2 makes forests grow more, especially young, flammable
scrub. There is probably a soft-setpoint effect from extra growth and
natural selection that puts a soft clamp on the atmospheric CO2 level.

Nuclear makes sense but is unpopular for irrational reasons. Coal is
dirty. Natural gas is an excellent fuel.



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Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 1:30:55 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-09-20, Cursitor Doom <cu...@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:18:46 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
use...@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2020-09-20, Cursitor Doom <cu...@notformail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:36:50 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
alway...@message.header> wrote:

eg. this from 1998

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.design/c/GGq_ixGxb5c/m/aXIaWbRXnsQJ

I\'d completely forgotten about making that post. I\'d probably say much the same today, though I might now drag. in my nephew who now works for Google, after getting a couple of different university qualifications.

he\'s spent more time responding to trolls recently, that may have lead
to more frequent mentions.

I\'m prepared to accept he has a doctorate degree in electronics from
his ancient posts here back in the days when he used to contribute
something actually useful, but chemistry as well?? He ain\'t no
polymath.

Just Physical Chemistry so far as I know.

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.design/search?q=%22bill%20sloman%22%20%22physical%20chemistry%22%20%22phd%22

It\'s a narrow field, but graduate students get stuck with all sorts of jobs.. I had to build my own vacuum line, which meant learning fairly elementary glass-blowing, and when I asked my supervisor for a pair of silica glass windows, he gave me a lump of rough-cast silica glass and told me to cut two circular discs out of it and grind and polish them to get the faces flat and parallel, which I did. They didn\'t end up optically flat - if you put them onto a float glass plate and illuminated them with the sodium line you could a couple of interference fringes - but I didn\'t need to go to the trouble of figuring them to get them any flatter. The electronics and the computer programming took even longer.

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:32:28 +0100, Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:


but there is plenty of money in CO2, and Germanys C02 per kwh is about 10x that of France

It\'s good for the plants, though. That\'s why despite massive
deforestation in many parts of the world, the level of CO2 in the
atmosphere has remained stable at just under 400ppm for over a hundred
years.

You are an imbecile.
 
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:56:06 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:32:28 +0100, Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:


but there is plenty of money in CO2, and Germanys C02 per kwh is about 10x that of France

It\'s good for the plants, though. That\'s why despite massive
deforestation in many parts of the world, the level of CO2 in the
atmosphere has remained stable at just under 400ppm for over a hundred
years.

You are an imbecile.

That\'s the standard argument of people who can\'t think about or
discuss things thoughtfully. Crude insults.

No coincidence: the coarse insulters can\'t design electronics.



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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
mandag den 21. september 2020 kl. 17.00.21 UTC+2 skrev jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:32:28 +0100, Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:


but there is plenty of money in CO2, and Germanys C02 per kwh is about 10x that of France

It\'s good for the plants, though. That\'s why despite massive
deforestation in many parts of the world, the level of CO2 in the
atmosphere has remained stable at just under 400ppm for over a hundred
years.

Look at the longterm graphs. CO2 was 6000 PPM in the ages of huge life
expansion and evolution. We have lately been on a downslope that was
starving plants. How would you like your main food source to be 300
PPM nutrients?

Part of the green revolution, and the many-fold increase in
agricultural production in the last century, is from the extra CO2 we
have added to the atmosphere.

The extra CO2 makes forests grow more, especially young, flammable
scrub. There is probably a soft-setpoint effect from extra growth and
natural selection that puts a soft clamp on the atmospheric CO2 level.

Nuclear makes sense but is unpopular for irrational reasons. Coal is
dirty. Natural gas is an excellent fuel.

https://youtu.be/UC_BCz0pzMw?t=257
 
On 9/20/2020 12:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:10:05 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 4:07:35 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
If the Cultural Marxist-Anarchist-BLM-ANTIFA brigade attempt to
interfere with Trump\'s pick of the new judge, THERE WILL BE TROUBLE.

Just sayin\'.

How do you know?

On the forums I read, I\'ve never seen even moderate conservatives so
riled by the antics of Antifa et al. If Trump\'s Constitution-upholding
pick for the SC gets de-railed, expect the shooting to start; Civil
War II. (not joking).

\"Cultural Marxism\" was a term invented by modern Nazis to scare old
ladies like Cursitor Doom. Anyone who\'d read any Marx would know the
term doesn\'t make any sense from the perspective of anything Marx
actually wrote.

Anyway, the old ladies of the right have been promising \"I\'m gonna shoot
someone!\" regularly, every day, for the better part of half a century,
and fairly regularly make good on their word by murdering some children
in a Federal building bombing, some children at a university, or some
women in a yoga studio, stuff like that.
 
On 9/21/2020 3:46 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 9/20/2020 12:46 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:10:05 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 4:07:35 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom
wrote:
If the Cultural Marxist-Anarchist-BLM-ANTIFA brigade attempt to
interfere with Trump\'s pick of the new judge, THERE WILL BE TROUBLE.

Just sayin\'.

How do you know?

On the forums I read, I\'ve never seen even moderate conservatives so
riled by the antics of Antifa et al. If Trump\'s Constitution-upholding
pick for the SC gets de-railed, expect the shooting to start; Civil
War II. (not joking).


\"Cultural Marxism\" was a term invented by modern Nazis to scare old
ladies like Cursitor Doom. Anyone who\'d read any Marx would know the
term doesn\'t make any sense from the perspective of anything Marx
actually wrote.

Even a few among the far right with a few more brain cells than average
have pointed this inconsistency out, surprisingly enough.
 
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 10:55:34 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:04:25 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 4:02:37 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 8:51:59 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
Actually, chancellor Merkel\'s sexual perversions are not my main
concern.

I am concerned about Germany\'s INSANE energy policy, destroying
their own nuclear reactors. I fear it might be an omen of more bad
things to come from Germany. It won\'t be the first time, or the even
the second time. Why would a country go utterly insane against a
proven viable technology like nuclear power. Not the first time
Germany has gone INSANE. The world had better keep a close eye
on Germany.

--
Gerhard Hoffmann <dk...@arcor.de> wrote:

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Am 19.09.20 um 22:49 schrieb John Doe:

snip

Nuclear plant disasters are rather worse than climate change, and can happen a lot faster. Getting rid of fossil-carbon burning power plants is a long term project, and can\'t be done quickly.

NO they aren\'t - how many MILLIONS have been killed by the burning of coal,

Good question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London

killed about 4,000 people in a week, and persuaded the UK government to make it illegal to burn coal in fireplaces in London and quite a few other place.
The fine carbon particles emitted by diesel engines are even more deadly, but less obvious.

The radioactive radon that gets released when coal is burnt has probably delivered more gamma-ray damage than any and all the nuclear accidents to date, but Chernobyl still created a lot more panic and disruption, even if it didn\'t kill all that many people.

--
SL0W MAN, Sydney

WOW! What insight from the SL0W MAN!! Radioactive radiation from coal kills far more than any nuclear accident, but coal burning is tolerated and nuclear power plants aren\'t.

All so-called environmentalists should STRONGLY embrace nuclear power, but they do the OPPOSITE.

The bottom line is that there is a TOTAL ABSENCE of risk calculation in choosing our source of energy. Envirowackos equate nuclear power with nuclear war.
 
On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 7:35:41 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 12:26:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 11:50:39 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:09:32 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 7:55:12 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On 19 Sep 2020 20:28:30 GMT, Uwe Bonnes
b...@hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:

Cursitor Doom <cu...@notformail.com> wrote:

<snip>

You do understand the constitution is a design specification, not a statement of principles? It is a specification of just exactly how the federal government is organized and what the various responsibilities were/are. That\'s it, no more and no less. People read way too much into it. All this other stuff about inferring statements of principles from this document, as conservative think tanks are wont to do, is horse manure., don\'t believe it.

The President and members of Congress and judges swear to uphold the
Constitution and the subsequent laws of the land. Judges nullify laws
on the basis that they are unconstitutional.

That\'s what the Constituion is: the ultimate law of the country.

It pins the system down, prevents drift. It can be amended but, by
design, it\'s difficult.

It\'s pity that it wasn\'t drafted particularly carefully. It\'s a much bigger pity that it wasn\'t drafted by people who had a clearer grasp of the principles they claimed to be articulating. The radical enlightenment was radical in articulating it\'s ideas clearly and consistently. The moderate enlightenment was all about fudging the principles so they didn\'t lead to situations where the people who were in power at the time lost that power.

The US constitution currently pins down the country in a situation where the top 1% of the income distribution has enough power to ensure that any expansion in the US economy benefits them, rather than the residual 99%. This has been true since Reagan came to power, but it has taken some forty years for the economy to expand enough to make this blatant and attention-getting. It needs to be fixed - going over to proportional representation, which leads to multiparty coalition governments would probably do it, but James Arthur (and lots of other right-wing nut cases) would probably try to organise an armed insurrection to stop it happening.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 1:20:08 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 10:55:34 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:04:25 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 4:02:37 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 8:51:59 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
Actually, chancellor Merkel\'s sexual perversions are not my main
concern.

I am concerned about Germany\'s INSANE energy policy, destroying
their own nuclear reactors. I fear it might be an omen of more bad
things to come from Germany. It won\'t be the first time, or the even
the second time. Why would a country go utterly insane against a
proven viable technology like nuclear power. Not the first time
Germany has gone INSANE. The world had better keep a close eye
on Germany.

--
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Am 19.09.20 um 22:49 schrieb John Doe:

snip

Nuclear plant disasters are rather worse than climate change, and can happen a lot faster. Getting rid of fossil-carbon burning power plants is a long term project, and can\'t be done quickly.

NO they aren\'t - how many MILLIONS have been killed by the burning of coal,

Good question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London

killed about 4,000 people in a week, and persuaded the UK government to make it illegal to burn coal in fireplaces in London and quite a few other place.
The fine carbon particles emitted by diesel engines are even more deadly, but less obvious.

The radioactive radon that gets released when coal is burnt has probably delivered more gamma-ray damage than any and all the nuclear accidents to date, but Chernobyl still created a lot more panic and disruption, even if it didn\'t kill all that many people.

WOW! What insight from the SL0W MAN!! Radioactive radiation from coal kills far more than any nuclear accident, but coal burning is tolerated and nuclear power plants aren\'t.

Coal burning became popular before anybody knew anything about radioactivity. The deaths are tolerated because shutting down every coal-fired power plant would kill a lot more people than the radioactive particles they\'ve been feeding into the atmosphere for a century or two now.

> All so-called environmentalists should STRONGLY embrace nuclear power, but they do the OPPOSITE.

If the environmentalist only worried about rising CO2 levels, they might be happier about nuclear power, but nuclear power poses a different threat to the environment - one that Flyguy seems to be too stupid to appreciate - and environmentalists worry about that as well.

> The bottom line is that there is a TOTAL ABSENCE of risk calculation in choosing our source of energy. Envirowackos equate nuclear power with nuclear war.

On the contrary, the risk calculations cover risks that Flyguy doesn\'t seem to be aware of. Environmentalists are more worried about nuclear waste than nuclear war. Once you have taken spent fuel out of a nuclear reactor you\'ve got a whole lot of different sorts of radioactive nuclei to deal with. Some of them have very long half-lives, and waste repositories have got to keep them safe and localised for about 100,000 years. One of my friends as an undergraduate ended up working on the Australian Synroc project.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synroc

It seems to be a technically adequate solution but no community anywhere seems to be willing have the stuff dumped anywhere near them.

This means that disposing of nuclear waste seems to be an unsolved - and probably insoluble - problem.

--

Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 9:00:45 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 1:20:08 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 10:55:34 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:04:25 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 4:02:37 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 8:51:59 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
Actually, chancellor Merkel\'s sexual perversions are not my main
concern.

I am concerned about Germany\'s INSANE energy policy, destroying
their own nuclear reactors. I fear it might be an omen of more bad
things to come from Germany. It won\'t be the first time, or the even
the second time. Why would a country go utterly insane against a
proven viable technology like nuclear power. Not the first time
Germany has gone INSANE. The world had better keep a close eye
on Germany.

--
Gerhard Hoffmann <dk...@arcor.de> wrote:

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From: Gerhard Hoffmann <dk...@arcor.de
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: OT: New Judge
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:50:29 +0200
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Am 19.09.20 um 22:49 schrieb John Doe:

snip

Nuclear plant disasters are rather worse than climate change, and can happen a lot faster. Getting rid of fossil-carbon burning power plants is a long term project, and can\'t be done quickly.

NO they aren\'t - how many MILLIONS have been killed by the burning of coal,

Good question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London

killed about 4,000 people in a week, and persuaded the UK government to make it illegal to burn coal in fireplaces in London and quite a few other place.
The fine carbon particles emitted by diesel engines are even more deadly, but less obvious.

The radioactive radon that gets released when coal is burnt has probably delivered more gamma-ray damage than any and all the nuclear accidents to date, but Chernobyl still created a lot more panic and disruption, even if it didn\'t kill all that many people.

WOW! What insight from the SL0W MAN!! Radioactive radiation from coal kills far more than any nuclear accident, but coal burning is tolerated and nuclear power plants aren\'t.

Coal burning became popular before anybody knew anything about radioactivity. The deaths are tolerated because shutting down every coal-fired power plant would kill a lot more people than the radioactive particles they\'ve been feeding into the atmosphere for a century or two now.

All so-called environmentalists should STRONGLY embrace nuclear power, but they do the OPPOSITE.

If the environmentalist only worried about rising CO2 levels, they might be happier about nuclear power, but nuclear power poses a different threat to the environment - one that Flyguy seems to be too stupid to appreciate - and environmentalists worry about that as well.

The bottom line is that there is a TOTAL ABSENCE of risk calculation in choosing our source of energy. Envirowackos equate nuclear power with nuclear war.

On the contrary, the risk calculations cover risks that Flyguy doesn\'t seem to be aware of. Environmentalists are more worried about nuclear waste than nuclear war. Once you have taken spent fuel out of a nuclear reactor you\'ve got a whole lot of different sorts of radioactive nuclei to deal with.. Some of them have very long half-lives, and waste repositories have got to keep them safe and localised for about 100,000 years. One of my friends as an undergraduate ended up working on the Australian Synroc project.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synroc

It seems to be a technically adequate solution but no community anywhere seems to be willing have the stuff dumped anywhere near them.

This means that disposing of nuclear waste seems to be an unsolved - and probably insoluble - problem.

--

SL0W MAN Sydney

Hey SL0W MAN,

The thing about nuclear power is that the waste is CONCENTRATED, hence easier - and cheaper - to deal with. Fossil fuel, esp. coal, has dilute waste distributed widely. No, the envirowackos don\'t deal with realities at all.
 
On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 2:41:30 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 9:00:45 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 1:20:08 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 10:55:34 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:04:25 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 4:02:37 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 8:51:59 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
Actually, chancellor Merkel\'s sexual perversions are not my main
concern.

I am concerned about Germany\'s INSANE energy policy, destroying
their own nuclear reactors. I fear it might be an omen of more bad
things to come from Germany. It won\'t be the first time, or the even
the second time. Why would a country go utterly insane against a
proven viable technology like nuclear power. Not the first time
Germany has gone INSANE. The world had better keep a close eye
on Germany.

--
Gerhard Hoffmann <dk...@arcor.de> wrote:

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From: Gerhard Hoffmann <dk...@arcor.de
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: OT: New Judge
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:50:29 +0200
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Am 19.09.20 um 22:49 schrieb John Doe:

snip

Nuclear plant disasters are rather worse than climate change, and can happen a lot faster. Getting rid of fossil-carbon burning power plants is a long term project, and can\'t be done quickly.

NO they aren\'t - how many MILLIONS have been killed by the burning of coal,

Good question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London

killed about 4,000 people in a week, and persuaded the UK government to make it illegal to burn coal in fireplaces in London and quite a few other place.
The fine carbon particles emitted by diesel engines are even more deadly, but less obvious.

The radioactive radon that gets released when coal is burnt has probably delivered more gamma-ray damage than any and all the nuclear accidents to date, but Chernobyl still created a lot more panic and disruption, even if it didn\'t kill all that many people.

WOW! What insight from the SL0W MAN!! Radioactive radiation from coal kills far more than any nuclear accident, but coal burning is tolerated and nuclear power plants aren\'t.

Coal burning became popular before anybody knew anything about radioactivity. The deaths are tolerated because shutting down every coal-fired power plant would kill a lot more people than the radioactive particles they\'ve been feeding into the atmosphere for a century or two now.

All so-called environmentalists should STRONGLY embrace nuclear power, but they do the OPPOSITE.

If the environmentalist only worried about rising CO2 levels, they might be happier about nuclear power, but nuclear power poses a different threat to the environment - one that Flyguy seems to be too stupid to appreciate - and environmentalists worry about that as well.

The bottom line is that there is a TOTAL ABSENCE of risk calculation in choosing our source of energy. Envirowackos equate nuclear power with nuclear war.

On the contrary, the risk calculations cover risks that Flyguy doesn\'t seem to be aware of. Environmentalists are more worried about nuclear waste than nuclear war. Once you have taken spent fuel out of a nuclear reactor you\'ve got a whole lot of different sorts of radioactive nuclei to deal with. Some of them have very long half-lives, and waste repositories have got to keep them safe and localised for about 100,000 years. One of my friends as an undergraduate ended up working on the Australian Synroc project.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synroc

It seems to be a technically adequate solution but no community anywhere seems to be willing have the stuff dumped anywhere near them.

This means that disposing of nuclear waste seems to be an unsolved - and probably insoluble - problem.

The thing about nuclear power is that the waste is CONCENTRATED, hence easier - and cheaper - to deal with. Fossil fuel, esp. coal, has dilute waste distributed widely. > No, the envirowackos don\'t deal with realities at all.

The theory that nuclear waste would be easy and cheap to deal with might have been tenable before we\'d got quite a lot of it and had to deal with it.

There are absolutely no long term repositories for nuclear waste anywhere, so that theory got falsified quite a while ago. You don\'t seem to have noticed, but you don\'t seem to notice anything that doesn\'t fit with your delusions - which you try to tell us are \"realities\". You really are deluded.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 9/21/2020 12:02 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:56:06 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@aol.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:32:28 +0100, Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:


but there is plenty of money in CO2, and Germanys C02 per kwh is about 10x that of France

It\'s good for the plants, though. That\'s why despite massive
deforestation in many parts of the world, the level of CO2 in the
atmosphere has remained stable at just under 400ppm for over a hundred
years.

You are an imbecile.

That\'s the standard argument of people who can\'t think about or
discuss things thoughtfully. Crude insults.

No coincidence: the coarse insulters can\'t design electronics.
Cursitor Doom is an imbecile, but his propensity to regurgitate nonsense
about 100 years of CO2 stability makes him a lying imbecile, too.
 
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 09:02:11 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:56:06 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@aol.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:32:28 +0100, Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:


but there is plenty of money in CO2, and Germanys C02 per kwh is about 10x that of France

It\'s good for the plants, though. That\'s why despite massive
deforestation in many parts of the world, the level of CO2 in the
atmosphere has remained stable at just under 400ppm for over a hundred
years.

You are an imbecile.

That\'s the standard argument of people who can\'t think about or
discuss things thoughtfully. Crude insults.

That was not an insult. It is impossible to insult this idiot.

He has been told many times on other groups about the flakiness of the
\"data\" he refers to. I can\'t be bothered to repeat it here.

The term \"imbecile\" when referring to doom is perfectly rational.

No coincidence: the coarse insulters can\'t design electronics.

---
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https://www.avast.com/antivirus
 
On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 17:28:46 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyb@aol.com> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 09:02:11 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:56:06 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard
pommyB@aol.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:32:28 +0100, Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:


but there is plenty of money in CO2, and Germanys C02 per kwh is about 10x that of France

It\'s good for the plants, though. That\'s why despite massive
deforestation in many parts of the world, the level of CO2 in the
atmosphere has remained stable at just under 400ppm for over a hundred
years.

You are an imbecile.

That\'s the standard argument of people who can\'t think about or
discuss things thoughtfully. Crude insults.

That was not an insult. It is impossible to insult this idiot.

He has been told many times on other groups about the flakiness of the
\"data\" he refers to. I can\'t be bothered to repeat it here.

The term \"imbecile\" when referring to doom is perfectly rational.


No coincidence: the coarse insulters can\'t design electronics.

No coincidence.



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