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Cursitor Doom
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This guy knows what he\'s talking about:
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
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Bill Sloman
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On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:57:02 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfoWars
\"InfoWars is an American far-right conspiracy theory and fake news website owned by Alex Jones.\"
Cursitor Doom gets one more fix from his usual suppliers.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
This guy knows what he\'s talking about:
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfoWars
\"InfoWars is an American far-right conspiracy theory and fake news website owned by Alex Jones.\"
Cursitor Doom gets one more fix from his usual suppliers.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Rick C
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On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:57:02 PM UTC-5, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Thank you. I had no idea that Australia is ultimately responsible for this HIV pandemic. Dr. Francis Boyle clearly identifies the director of the Australian Health Board as the culprit who engineered HIV into SARS which they then gave to their Chinese lackeys to further spin into COVID-19. I guess I never realized this was actually HIV they were giving people. So why can we treat it with the same antiretroviral drugs we use on regular HIV?
Why are we talking about using lights and bleach and all sorts of other nasty drugs to treat this disgusting pandemic? We\'ve had the cure all along and it we didn\'t know it?
BTW, are we going to bomb Australia in retaliation? Maybe we should breed a hybrid between alligators, crocodiles and kangaroos and see what that does for their wide open spaces. Maybe toss in a bit of the Tasmanian devil and let it spread its cancer among the public. That\'ll teach them to mess with the USA.
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This guy knows what he\'s talking about:
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
Thank you. I had no idea that Australia is ultimately responsible for this HIV pandemic. Dr. Francis Boyle clearly identifies the director of the Australian Health Board as the culprit who engineered HIV into SARS which they then gave to their Chinese lackeys to further spin into COVID-19. I guess I never realized this was actually HIV they were giving people. So why can we treat it with the same antiretroviral drugs we use on regular HIV?
Why are we talking about using lights and bleach and all sorts of other nasty drugs to treat this disgusting pandemic? We\'ve had the cure all along and it we didn\'t know it?
BTW, are we going to bomb Australia in retaliation? Maybe we should breed a hybrid between alligators, crocodiles and kangaroos and see what that does for their wide open spaces. Maybe toss in a bit of the Tasmanian devil and let it spread its cancer among the public. That\'ll teach them to mess with the USA.
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Bill Sloman
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On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 4:24:21 PM UTC+11, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
Steaming heap is more like it.
Might be tricky. Alligators split off from crocodiles some 80 million years ago. The most recent common ancestor of crocodile and birds lived about 240 million years ago, and the one that is also an ancestor of mammals lived even earlier.
> Maybe toss in a bit of the Tasmanian devil and let it spread its cancer among the public. That\'ll teach them to mess with the USA.
The Tasmanian devil\'s transmissible facial cancer seems to be on the wane, but anybody clever enough to create that kind of hybrid would probably be clever enough to create a version of Cursitor Doom with a functional brain, which would solve the problem - such as it is - at source.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:57:02 PM UTC-5, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This guy knows what he\'s talking about:
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
Steaming heap is more like it.
Thank you. I had no idea that Australia is ultimately responsible for this HIV pandemic. Dr. Francis Boyle clearly identifies the director of the Australian Health Board as the culprit who engineered HIV into SARS which they then gave to their Chinese lackeys to further spin into COVID-19. I guess I never realized this was actually HIV they were giving people. So why can\'t we treat it with the same antiretroviral drugs we use on regular HIV?
Why are we talking about using lights and bleach and all sorts of other nasty drugs to treat this disgusting pandemic? We\'ve had the cure all along and it we didn\'t know it?
BTW, are we going to bomb Australia in retaliation? Maybe we should breed a hybrid between alligators, crocodiles and kangaroos and see what that does for their wide open spaces.
Might be tricky. Alligators split off from crocodiles some 80 million years ago. The most recent common ancestor of crocodile and birds lived about 240 million years ago, and the one that is also an ancestor of mammals lived even earlier.
> Maybe toss in a bit of the Tasmanian devil and let it spread its cancer among the public. That\'ll teach them to mess with the USA.
The Tasmanian devil\'s transmissible facial cancer seems to be on the wane, but anybody clever enough to create that kind of hybrid would probably be clever enough to create a version of Cursitor Doom with a functional brain, which would solve the problem - such as it is - at source.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Cursitor Doom
Guest
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 01:36:07 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
If you\'re going to enclose something in quotes so as to make it look
more authoritative, it\'s generally expected you provide the source for
the claim.
>This is a bad look, and the vaccine developers decided that they had to withdraw the vaccine in consequence.
Yeah, it\'s not a great selling point. Protects against Covid; side
effects: gives you AIDS. :-D
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 1:28:36 PM UTC+11, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:57:02 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This guy knows what he\'s talking about:
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfoWars
\"InfoWars is an American far-right conspiracy theory and fake news website owned by Alex Jones.\"
If you\'re going to enclose something in quotes so as to make it look
more authoritative, it\'s generally expected you provide the source for
the claim.
>This is a bad look, and the vaccine developers decided that they had to withdraw the vaccine in consequence.
Yeah, it\'s not a great selling point. Protects against Covid; side
effects: gives you AIDS. :-D
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David Brown
Guest
On 14/12/2020 11:50, Cursitor Doom wrote:
He did - the quotation is from Wikipedia, on the link he gave.
If you want another quotation, here\'s one:
\"The name\'s easy to remember. Just imagine *info*rmation, and someone
at *war* with it.\"
<https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alex_Jones#Infowars>
(Rationalwiki is written in a somewhat exaggerated style and is less
than diplomatic about wackadoodles like Alex Jones - but its judgement
is usually sound.)
Surely that\'s a troll - no one could possibly be as stupid as you appear
and still able to work a keyboard.
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 01:36:07 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 1:28:36 PM UTC+11, Bill Sloman
wrote:
On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:57:02 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom
wrote:
This guy knows what he\'s talking about:
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfoWars
\"InfoWars is an American far-right conspiracy theory and fake
news website owned by Alex Jones.\"
If you\'re going to enclose something in quotes so as to make it look
more authoritative, it\'s generally expected you provide the source
for the claim.
He did - the quotation is from Wikipedia, on the link he gave.
If you want another quotation, here\'s one:
\"The name\'s easy to remember. Just imagine *info*rmation, and someone
at *war* with it.\"
<https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alex_Jones#Infowars>
(Rationalwiki is written in a somewhat exaggerated style and is less
than diplomatic about wackadoodles like Alex Jones - but its judgement
is usually sound.)
This is a bad look, and the vaccine developers decided that they
had to withdraw the vaccine in consequence.
Yeah, it\'s not a great selling point. Protects against Covid; side
effects: gives you AIDS. :-D
Surely that\'s a troll - no one could possibly be as stupid as you appear
and still able to work a keyboard.
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Cursitor Doom
Guest
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:24:15 -0800 (PST), Rick C
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
>BTW, are we going to bomb Australia in retaliation?
Good idea. Let\'s start with Sydney.
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
>BTW, are we going to bomb Australia in retaliation?
Good idea. Let\'s start with Sydney.
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 2:26:47 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Rick C. was being satirical, but Cursitor Doom is a little too stupid to have noticed. With people like him you don\'t have to bother working out how to delete them from the gene pool - they can be relied on to delete themselves. With Coid-19 floating around, somebody as ill-informed as Cursitor Doom has loads of opportunities to improve the environment by editing himself from it..
He has lasted longer than I\'d expected, but he\'s probably following Trump\'s advice sufficiently carefully to get himself infected too , and he\'s less likely to have access to more effective treatment than he deserves.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:24:15 -0800 (PST), Rick C
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
BTW, are we going to bomb Australia in retaliation?
Good idea. Let\'s start with Sydney.
Rick C. was being satirical, but Cursitor Doom is a little too stupid to have noticed. With people like him you don\'t have to bother working out how to delete them from the gene pool - they can be relied on to delete themselves. With Coid-19 floating around, somebody as ill-informed as Cursitor Doom has loads of opportunities to improve the environment by editing himself from it..
He has lasted longer than I\'d expected, but he\'s probably following Trump\'s advice sufficiently carefully to get himself infected too , and he\'s less likely to have access to more effective treatment than he deserves.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Rick C
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On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:48:24 AM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
No I wasn\'t. I was just following a thought from Randy Newman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBrw3rQvKo
Oh, wait, he says to spare Australia... opps, my bad, but too late. The bombs are on their way.
Jeez, I\'d make a terrible president.
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On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 2:26:47 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:24:15 -0800 (PST), Rick C
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
BTW, are we going to bomb Australia in retaliation?
Good idea. Let\'s start with Sydney.
Rick C. was being satirical,
No I wasn\'t. I was just following a thought from Randy Newman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBrw3rQvKo
Oh, wait, he says to spare Australia... opps, my bad, but too late. The bombs are on their way.
Jeez, I\'d make a terrible president.
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Fred Bloggs
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On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:57:02 PM UTC-5, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Not at all, no such HIV protein fragment is used in the other vaccines, it was just the one experimental vaccine in Australia, and it wasn\'t even necessary for them to use that component. They didn\'t know what they\'re doing.
This guy knows what he\'s talking about:
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
Not at all, no such HIV protein fragment is used in the other vaccines, it was just the one experimental vaccine in Australia, and it wasn\'t even necessary for them to use that component. They didn\'t know what they\'re doing.
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Joe Gwinn
Guest
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:57:44 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
[snip]
The problem with HIV is that it is a fast-evolving quasi-species, and
nobody has found something to target in HIV that is both essential and
also cannot change without crippling the virus, and so HIV simply
evolves around any treatment or vaccine used so far.
There are some people who don\'t get HIV no matter how often they are
exposed, and the medical world is trying to figure out how these
people achieve their natural immunity.
Joe Gwinn
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
[snip]
As far as I understood (and I am not at all sure here), the HIV test
that gets a false positive is a test for HIV antibodies. If this
vaccine is - as an unintended side-effect - provoking anti-bodies for an
HIV protein, could it then be a step on the road towards a real HIV vaccine?
The problem with HIV is that it is a fast-evolving quasi-species, and
nobody has found something to target in HIV that is both essential and
also cannot change without crippling the virus, and so HIV simply
evolves around any treatment or vaccine used so far.
There are some people who don\'t get HIV no matter how often they are
exposed, and the medical world is trying to figure out how these
people achieve their natural immunity.
Joe Gwinn
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Cursitor Doom
Guest
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:31:22 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps Bill Sloman was advising them.
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:57:02 PM UTC-5, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This guy knows what he\'s talking about:
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
Not at all, no such HIV protein fragment is used in the other vaccines, it was just the one experimental vaccine in Australia, and it wasn\'t even necessary for them to use that component. They didn\'t know what they\'re doing.
Perhaps Bill Sloman was advising them.
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 2:54:50 AM UTC+11, David Brown wrote:
<snip>
Like I said, three copies of the gp41 protein form the stem of the envelope protein, and three gp129 protein forms the cap - which is the bit an antibody could get at.
Not promising.
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Bill Sloman
On 14/12/2020 15:33, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 11:39:02 PM UTC+11, David Brown
wrote:
On 14/12/2020 10:36, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 1:28:36 PM UTC+11, Bill Sloman
wrote:
On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:57:02 PM UTC+11, Cursitor
Doom wrote:
<snip>
An antibody that latches onto part of the virus most certainly /can/ be
of use in neutralising the virus - antibodies do not need to react to
all the proteins on the virus shell. But if the protein in question is
only exposed after the virus has entered the cell, then I agree it is of
little use.
The immune system is likely to get exposed to both isolated gp129
and isolated gp41 protein fragments after the virus has shed it\'s
envelope and made its way into the nucleus of the cell it has
infected, and develop antibodies against them, but they aren\'t going
to do anything useful.
snip
Like I said, three copies of the gp41 protein form the stem of the envelope protein, and three gp129 protein forms the cap - which is the bit an antibody could get at.
Not promising.
-
Bill Sloman
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 10:56:29 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
The University of Queensland is in Brisbane - quite a long way from Sydney - and I don\'t hang around with that kind of medical researcher.
If Fred had any kind of clue about what actually happened, he\'d be aware that the researchers involved knew exactly what they were doing.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:31:22 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:57:02 PM UTC-5, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This guy knows what he\'s talking about:
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
Not at all, no such HIV protein fragment is used in the other vaccines, it was just the one experimental vaccine in Australia, and it wasn\'t even necessary for them to use that component. They didn\'t know what they\'re doing.
Perhaps Bill Sloman was advising them.
The University of Queensland is in Brisbane - quite a long way from Sydney - and I don\'t hang around with that kind of medical researcher.
If Fred had any kind of clue about what actually happened, he\'d be aware that the researchers involved knew exactly what they were doing.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 9:37:31 AM UTC+11, Joe Gwinn wrote:
They\'ve worked out what is happening in at least some of the cases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV
\"Some people are resistant to certain strains of HIV. For example, people with the CCR5-Î32 mutation are resistant to infection by the R5 virus, as the mutation leaves HIV unable to bind to this co-receptor, reducing its ability to infect target cells.\"
If I remember rightly one of the blocking mutations also stops you getting bubonic plague, and the incidence went up during the Black Death (but never got all that high).
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:57:44 +0100, David Brown
david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
[snip]
As far as I understood (and I am not at all sure here), the HIV test
that gets a false positive is a test for HIV antibodies. If this
vaccine is - as an unintended side-effect - provoking anti-bodies for an
HIV protein, could it then be a step on the road towards a real HIV vaccine?
The problem with HIV is that it is a fast-evolving quasi-species, and
nobody has found something to target in HIV that is both essential and
also cannot change without crippling the virus, and so HIV simply
evolves around any treatment or vaccine used so far.
There are some people who don\'t get HIV no matter how often they are
exposed, and the medical world is trying to figure out how these
people achieve their natural immunity.
They\'ve worked out what is happening in at least some of the cases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV
\"Some people are resistant to certain strains of HIV. For example, people with the CCR5-Î32 mutation are resistant to infection by the R5 virus, as the mutation leaves HIV unable to bind to this co-receptor, reducing its ability to infect target cells.\"
If I remember rightly one of the blocking mutations also stops you getting bubonic plague, and the incidence went up during the Black Death (but never got all that high).
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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John Doe
Guest
Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com> wrote:
The Chinese Communist Party wanted to oust Donald Trump. Communist China knows
trashing our economy hurts our incumbent president\'s chance of reelection.
They certainly had the motive.
This guy knows what he\'s talking about:
https://tinyurl.com/yyufast7
Smoking gun or what?
The Chinese Communist Party wanted to oust Donald Trump. Communist China knows
trashing our economy hurts our incumbent president\'s chance of reelection.
They certainly had the motive.
J
John Doe
Guest
Fred Bloggs wrote:
> The most active troll in this group (Bill Sloman) wrote:
....
That\'s why he doesn\'t post about electronics here, too easy for real,
non-troll regular posters to prove him wrong.
> The most active troll in this group (Bill Sloman) wrote:
....
What\'s ridiculous is your sham of pretending to understand a bit of the
science.
That\'s why he doesn\'t post about electronics here, too easy for real,
non-troll regular posters to prove him wrong.
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Cursitor Doom
Guest
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 19:14:33 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote:
This forum is just a platform for him to come out with a lot of
supercillious nonsense delivered in a haughty fashion which Bill
imagines makes him appear superior to others. Classic psychopath, but
lacking even the superficial charm characteristic of the breed.
<always.look@message.header> wrote:
Fred Bloggs wrote:
The most active troll in this group (Bill Sloman) wrote:
...
What\'s ridiculous is your sham of pretending to understand a bit of the
science.
That\'s why he doesn\'t post about electronics here, too easy for real,
non-troll regular posters to prove him wrong.
This forum is just a platform for him to come out with a lot of
supercillious nonsense delivered in a haughty fashion which Bill
imagines makes him appear superior to others. Classic psychopath, but
lacking even the superficial charm characteristic of the breed.
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 6:14:41 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
That\'s actually what Fred Bloggs wrote. Fred is the one whose pretensions are ridiculous, but John Doe won\'t have noticed this.
> That\'s why he doesn\'t post about electronics here, too easy for real, non-troll regular posters to prove him wrong.
John Doe doesn\'t seem to notice what I do post about electronics - he\'s not active on electronics threads, so this isn\'t surprising.
If it was so easy for other people to prove me wrong, he should thus be able to find examples. It has happened, and you can find them by searching for my posts that include the word \"oops\". There aren\'t many of them.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
Fred Bloggs wrote:
The most active troll in this group (Bill Sloman) wrote:
What\'s ridiculous is your sham of pretending to understand a bit of the science.
That\'s actually what Fred Bloggs wrote. Fred is the one whose pretensions are ridiculous, but John Doe won\'t have noticed this.
> That\'s why he doesn\'t post about electronics here, too easy for real, non-troll regular posters to prove him wrong.
John Doe doesn\'t seem to notice what I do post about electronics - he\'s not active on electronics threads, so this isn\'t surprising.
If it was so easy for other people to prove me wrong, he should thus be able to find examples. It has happened, and you can find them by searching for my posts that include the word \"oops\". There aren\'t many of them.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney