OT: Geo-Financial Flows in America...

[Cursitor Doom]

This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:34:24 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

More right-wing nonsense fro Zero Hedge. Sensible Americans leave America, if they can. Right wing lunatics move to the most right-wing parts of the country.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 00:34:15 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

Is there a corresponding effect in europe and asia? I think so. It\'s
certainly happening in China, with farming towns losing their kids to
big cities.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:09:53 PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 00:34:15 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com
wrote:
This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

Is there a corresponding effect in europe and asia? I think so. It\'s
certainly happening in China, with farming towns losing their kids to
big cities.

ZeroHedge seems to be obsessed about the incomes of the people who move between states.

They are exploiting American Internal Revenue Service data, so they aren\'t offering any insights into European or Chinese internal migration.

Australia\'s population has been moving off the land and into cities since about 1890 when agriculture started being mechanised on a large scale. China has seem similar internal migrations more recently., with the emphasis on getting people to work in factories to make goods for export.

Much of the point of the European Union was to let German exports finance the movement of French peasants into factories in cities, so that French farms could consolidated into units that were big enough to mechanise.

The report names Florida as a big winner, but the likely attraction there seems to be Ron Desantis\'s enthusiasm for book banning, which allows right wing lunatic parents to censor their kids school libraries of any book that the parents don\'t want their kids to see, though they haven\'t yet banned the Old Testament.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 04:20:59 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:09:53?PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 00:34:15 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com
wrote:
This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

Is there a corresponding effect in europe and asia? I think so. It\'s
certainly happening in China, with farming towns losing their kids to
big cities.

ZeroHedge seems to be obsessed about the incomes of the people who move between states.

They are exploiting American Internal Revenue Service data, so they aren\'t offering any insights into European or Chinese internal migration.

Australia\'s population has been moving off the land and into cities since about 1890 when agriculture started being mechanised on a large scale. China has seem similar internal migrations more recently., with the emphasis on getting people to work in factories to make goods for export.

Much of the point of the European Union was to let German exports finance the movement of French peasants into factories in cities, so that French farms could consolidated into units that were big enough to mechanise.

The report names Florida as a big winner, but the likely attraction there seems to be Ron Desantis\'s enthusiasm for book banning, which allows right wing lunatic parents to censor their kids school libraries of any book that the parents don\'t want their kids to see, though they haven\'t yet banned the Old Testament.

Children need to be in school to learn knowledge that will help them
be productive and useful members of society in the future:
mathematics, languages, science and so forth. That\'s what the parents
want. However, there are some poisonous elements within the school
system both in the US and Europe who think it\'s a good idea to
sacrifice some of that academic syllabus in exchange for teaching
young kids about all kinds of weird, creepy shit they should never be
exposed to until well after they leave school - or preferably never if
the truth be told.
There\'s no gay porn in the Old Testament, Bill. In fact ISTR it says
something about it being an abomination in the sight of God.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 7:34:24 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

That\'s a completely mindless article about some mindless IRS statistics. IRS is not the Census Bureau and does not know anything about statistics of population dynamics. The people leaving NY, CA, and IL are either retired or in for a big reduction in their AGI. They won\'t earn nearly the same income in the \'no place\' red states. An upside is the majority probably vote Blue, meaning the \"no place\" states will start losing their Red state majority and status. They\'re used to the state government taking care of everything for them and providing tons of services, so they\'ll probably start demanding and get the red state to over extend and eventually bankrupt itself with excessive debt, just like they did in their home state.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:33:21 PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 04:20:59 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:09:53?PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 00:34:15 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com
wrote:
This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

Is there a corresponding effect in europe and asia? I think so. It\'s
certainly happening in China, with farming towns losing their kids to
big cities.

ZeroHedge seems to be obsessed about the incomes of the people who move between states.

They are exploiting American Internal Revenue Service data, so they aren\'t offering any insights into European or Chinese internal migration.

Australia\'s population has been moving off the land and into cities since about 1890 when agriculture started being mechanised on a large scale. China has seem similar internal migrations more recently., with the emphasis on getting people to work in factories to make goods for export.

Much of the point of the European Union was to let German exports finance the movement of French peasants into factories in cities, so that French farms could consolidated into units that were big enough to mechanise.

The report names Florida as a big winner, but the likely attraction there seems to be Ron Desantis\'s enthusiasm for book banning, which allows right wing lunatic parents to censor their kids school libraries of any book that the parents don\'t want their kids to see, though they haven\'t yet banned the Old Testament.

Children need to be in school to learn knowledge that will help them be productive and useful members of society in the future:
mathematics, languages, science and so forth.

The US education system doesn\'t do well at that.
The country was set up before universal education was economically feasible, and the school district system of paying for it is absurdly piecemeal.

> That\'s what the parents want. However, there are some poisonous elements within the school system both in the US and Europe who think it\'s a good idea to sacrifice some of that academic syllabus in exchange for teaching young kids about all kinds of weird, creepy shit they should never be exposed to until well after they leave school - or preferably never if the truth be told.

I did find religious education remarkably creepy. I didn\'t have any trouble passing the relevant exams, but it was demented nonsense.

Apparently American parents don\'t have any trouble with that, but object to having the kids told about homosexuality and more complicated stuff - they didn\'t have any trouble with religious wierdo\'s sexually abusing the kids, and the US Catholic church had to pay out a lot of money when lawyers realised that the could sue the church for it and collect some of the damages awarded.

> There\'s no gay porn in the Old Testament, Bill. In fact ISTR it says something about it being an abomination in the sight of God.

But it does mention it, and quite a bit of other strange behavior.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:33:21 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 04:20:59 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:09:53?PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 00:34:15 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com
wrote:
This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

Is there a corresponding effect in europe and asia? I think so. It\'s
certainly happening in China, with farming towns losing their kids to
big cities.

ZeroHedge seems to be obsessed about the incomes of the people who move between states.

They are exploiting American Internal Revenue Service data, so they aren\'t offering any insights into European or Chinese internal migration.

Australia\'s population has been moving off the land and into cities since about 1890 when agriculture started being mechanised on a large scale. China has seem similar internal migrations more recently., with the emphasis on getting people to work in factories to make goods for export.

Much of the point of the European Union was to let German exports finance the movement of French peasants into factories in cities, so that French farms could consolidated into units that were big enough to mechanise.

The report names Florida as a big winner, but the likely attraction there seems to be Ron Desantis\'s enthusiasm for book banning, which allows right wing lunatic parents to censor their kids school libraries of any book that the parents don\'t want their kids to see, though they haven\'t yet banned the Old Testament.
Children need to be in school to learn knowledge that will help them
be productive and useful members of society in the future:
mathematics, languages, science and so forth. That\'s what the parents
want. However, there are some poisonous elements within the school
system both in the US and Europe who think it\'s a good idea to
sacrifice some of that academic syllabus in exchange for teaching
young kids about all kinds of weird, creepy shit they should never be
exposed to until well after they leave school - or preferably never if
the truth be told.

If there are courses on creepy shit, they\'re electives. It\'s far better to educate the students about topics they\'re going to be exposed to in real life so they can deal with it better. You must be behind the times, because just about everyone age 14 or older is already viewing pornography on their own. They\'re not going to be getting any reasonable counseling from their parents, quite a few of whom have major problems themselves. Schools are also grossly lacking educating students about healthy lifestyle, fitness, and home economics type topics.

There\'s no gay porn in the Old Testament, Bill. In fact ISTR it says
something about it being an abomination in the sight of God.

That kind of argument doesn\'t begin to persuade the modern juvenile mind. You couldn\'t be more out of touch with reality. The good old days when everything was done with threats of corporal punishment and rote learning are dead and gone. That system was a total failure in producing a reasonably civilized world, it produced instead record slaughters and wars.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/28/2023 7:34 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

\"On a net basis, Florida came out ahead with 256,000 net new people and
$39.2 billion in net new taxable income.\"

Florida doesn\'t tax income..

 

[bitrex]

On 4/29/2023 5:09 AM, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 00:34:15 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:

This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

Is there a corresponding effect in europe and asia? I think so. It\'s
certainly happening in China, with farming towns losing their kids to
big cities.

People from New England who retire to no-income and low-property tax
states like FL contribute asymptotically nothing to the local economies.
They\'re from New England! A New England millionaire will gladly take the
time to interrogate the store manager over a price discrepancy of ten
cents on a purchase of three potatoes.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/28/2023 7:34 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

Florida isn\'t a state anyone other than the pretty well-to-do would want
to move to to \"save money.\" You get no income tax and low property tax
but in exchange just about everything else is above average. Housing is
expensive, healthcare is expensive, property insurance is expensive,
auto insurance is expensive, fuel is expensive, electricity is
expensive, etc..

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 16:52:13 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 4/29/2023 5:09 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 00:34:15 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:

This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su

Is there a corresponding effect in europe and asia? I think so. It\'s
certainly happening in China, with farming towns losing their kids to
big cities.


People from New England who retire to no-income and low-property tax
states like FL contribute asymptotically nothing to the local economies.
They\'re from New England! A New England millionaire will gladly take the
time to interrogate the store manager over a price discrepancy of ten
cents on a purchase of three potatoes.

Did you personally witness that happening?

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 17:30:26 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 4/28/2023 7:34 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su
Florida isn\'t a state anyone other than the pretty well-to-do would want
to move to to \"save money.\" You get no income tax and low property tax
but in exchange just about everything else is above average. Housing is
expensive, healthcare is expensive, property insurance is expensive,
auto insurance is expensive, fuel is expensive, electricity is
expensive, etc..

And.... why do you think that is?

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 17:30:26 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 4/28/2023 7:34 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su
Florida isn\'t a state anyone other than the pretty well-to-do would want
to move to to \"save money.\" You get no income tax and low property tax
but in exchange just about everything else is above average. Housing is
expensive, healthcare is expensive, property insurance is expensive,
auto insurance is expensive, fuel is expensive, electricity is
expensive, etc..

You might do a little research before making up things like that.

 

[bitrex]

On 4/29/2023 7:24 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 17:30:26 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 4/28/2023 7:34 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
This is interesting. A clear trend emerging of people and businesses
leaving the worst Blue states for the best of the Reds. Crime and
taxes two big factors....

https://tinyurl.com/2dcct3su
Florida isn\'t a state anyone other than the pretty well-to-do would want
to move to to \"save money.\" You get no income tax and low property tax
but in exchange just about everything else is above average. Housing is
expensive, healthcare is expensive, property insurance is expensive,
auto insurance is expensive, fuel is expensive, electricity is
expensive, etc..

And.... why do you think that is?

It\'s like LA and Vegas, besides retirees the state\'s economy is designed
to bilk fools, wanna bees, and dreamers.