OT: Does this exist?

Jim Thompson · Mar 9, 2005

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Tim Shoppa · Mar 9, 2005

Light bulb socket extender... very short length
Provides pig-tail out the side
Does such a thing exist?

Yeah, typical Christmas light cheater. I'm always surprised that they
ever were sold, much less UL rated, 'cuz it's just asking for liability
lawsuits. (Then again I cannot see how they sell lamps with 18 gauge
zip cord to be plugged into 15A circuits...)

Tim.

Tom Del Rosso · Mar 9, 2005

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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Light bulb socket extender... very short length

Provides pig-tail out the side

Does such a thing exist?

Standard house light bulbs with pig tails? If not what size?

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Joerg · Mar 9, 2005

Hello Tim,

Yeah, typical Christmas light cheater. I'm always surprised that they
ever were sold, much less UL rated, 'cuz it's just asking for liability
lawsuits. ...

Those are usually larger and with a non-grounded socket or two to the
side. I think the bulb will then stick out an inch or so more than
without the extender.

... (Then again I cannot see how they sell lamps with 18 gauge
zip cord to be plugged into 15A circuits...)

The better ones have a tiny fuse in the plug. The not so good ones
probably don't ...

Regards, Joerg

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Jim Thompson · Mar 9, 2005

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 02:27:37 GMT, "Tom Del Rosso"
<ng01@att.net.invalid> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:ijms21p2qgea8fshaaos4uu5sthqctgne9@4ax.com...
Light bulb socket extender... very short length

Provides pig-tail out the side

Does such a thing exist?

Standard house light bulbs with pig tails? If not what size?

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Chuck Harris · Mar 9, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote:

Light bulb socket extender... very short length

Provides pig-tail out the side

Does such a thing exist?

...Jim Thompson

Hi Jim,

It would help to know a little more about the application.

Is it for normal household 120V screw base lamps?

How long is short?

Is the pig-tail in series or parallel, or is pig-tail Arizonian for
a pull cord switch?

-Chuck

Jim Thompson · Mar 9, 2005

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:32:26 -0500, Chuck Harris
<cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
Light bulb socket extender... very short length

Provides pig-tail out the side

Does such a thing exist?

...Jim Thompson

Hi Jim,

It would help to know a little more about the application.

Is it for normal household 120V screw base lamps?

How long is short?

Is the pig-tail in series or parallel, or is pig-tail Arizonian for
a pull cord switch?

-Chuck

Sno-o-o-ort ;-) Isn't "pig-tail" a fat broad ?

I want a pair of (parallel) sense leads that tell me that the light is
receiving power.

(My old garage door opener had terminals that I could hang a relay on
to turn on my "parking guidance" LEDs, the new one was conceived by
someone afraid of big brother... virtually vacuum sealed ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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Joerg · Mar 9, 2005

Hello Jim,

I want a pair of (parallel) sense leads that tell me that the light is
receiving power.

(My old garage door opener had terminals that I could hang a relay on
to turn on my "parking guidance" LEDs, the new one was conceived by
someone afraid of big brother... virtually vacuum sealed ;-)

Can't you just current sense the input to the opener? A sense relay with
limiter, whatever, so when there is in excess of x milliamps the parking
guidance is on. Most openers consume little power when only the receiver
runs but there should be a marked jump when the light bulb turns on.
And, of course, another one when the motor cranks but that can be
limited out.

Regards, Joerg

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Richard H. · Mar 9, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote:

Light bulb socket extender... very short length

The variety with the sockets are fairly long (~2"). There is a style
that's a stub (used for extending shorter halogen replacement bulbs),
but you'd have to add the pigtail. Or the variety that's a screw-in
socket - put the garage lights on a motion sensor and do without the
bulb in the opener.

Spehro Pefhany · Mar 9, 2005

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:16:00 -0500, the renowned Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

IIRC, you can buy a light-bulb adapter that provides a two-blade
receptacle perpendicular to the light bulb axis. A few bux at Home
Despot, brown bakelite. The purpose would be to tap off an extension.
Then you can plug a line cord into the receptacle and get your pigtail
without any modifications to the GDO.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Here's the current Leviton product:
http://www.usahardware.com/inet/shop/item/30430/icn/20-238329/leviton/004_1403_i.htm

And the stubby ones I remember from my youth (the brown one):

http://www.ioffer.com/i/Bakelite-Electrical-Outlet-Adapters-5412422

Looks like "current tap" is the key phrase.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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ptaylor · Mar 9, 2005

ptaylor wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:32:26 -0500, Chuck Harris
cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

Light bulb socket extender... very short length

Provides pig-tail out the side

Does such a thing exist?

...Jim Thompson

Hi Jim,

It would help to know a little more about the application.

Is it for normal household 120V screw base lamps?

How long is short?

Is the pig-tail in series or parallel, or is pig-tail Arizonian for
a pull cord switch?

-Chuck

Sno-o-o-ort ;-) Isn't "pig-tail" a fat broad ?

I want a pair of (parallel) sense leads that tell me that the light is
receiving power.

(My old garage door opener had terminals that I could hang a relay on
to turn on my "parking guidance" LEDs, the new one was conceived by
someone afraid of big brother... virtually vacuum sealed ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Ahh..
Here's something I ran across..I was taking apart a dead Compact
Flourescent Bulb..and cut the base open,and snipped the leads to the PC
board off..
Viola! Base,complete with "pigtail" for next to nothing,if you've got a
dead CFL around..
Use a "Y" socket thingbulb in one,and pigtail in the other..

Or maybe a Y and one of those bulb-base to 2-prong outlet adaptors..You
can probably find one at a decent hardware store for a buck or two,next
to the Y's for a couple bucks. ;-)

Doh,But perhaps this won't all fit under the (assumed) cover over the
light?..Now I think I see what you're getting at..
Humm.. How about putting the outlet adaptor in the GDO,and running a
cord down to your LED/sensor and a seperate light? (perhaps a relay to
click on the overhead garage lights?).. a single flouro. fixture,or a
lamp on a shelf/table/whatever?

John Larkin · Mar 9, 2005

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:42:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

I want a pair of (parallel) sense leads that tell me that the light is
receiving power.

Photocell?

John

Clint Sharp · Mar 9, 2005

In message <5ats21to6nhousglf1e88ah4hdmeupks8q@4ax.com>, John Larkin
<jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> writes

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:42:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
Nice to see your ego is under control Jim!

I want a pair of (parallel) sense leads that tell me that the light is
receiving power.

Photocell?

John

Doesn't tell you if the bulb is dead or the power is out.

A neon coupled to a photocell would work, you could mask the photocell
so that light from the bulb changed the resistance, you then have a
tri-state output so you can tell when the bulb is lit, dead with power
or just no power.
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Clint Sharp

Rich Grise · Mar 9, 2005

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:32:30 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

http://www.ioffer.com/i/Bakelite-Electrical-Outlet-Adapters-5412422

The white one is a night light. There used to be a translucent shroud
that snapped into that groove; and it takes a large Xmas tree bulb.
Remember the ones where all the bulbs were 115 and they were in parallel?
I think they might have been about 7 watts, but maybe that's way high -
I remember the 7 1/2 watt bulbs about the size of a ping-pong ball, but
they had the full-size base. Our night light here takes that smaller
base, it might be "candelabra", but I never have really known if that's
actually it.

The black one looks like just a cube tap.

Cheers!
Rich

Rich Grise · Mar 9, 2005

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:16:00 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:42:54 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
I want a pair of (parallel) sense leads that tell me that the light is
receiving power.

IIRC, you can buy a light-bulb adapter that provides a two-blade
receptacle perpendicular to the light bulb axis. A few bux at Home
Despot, brown bakelite. The purpose would be to tap off an extension.
Then you can plug a line cord into the receptacle and get your pigtail
without any modifications to the GDO.

I remember many years ago, seeing a little one-outlet adapter - it
was almost flush, very much like an old BUSS fuse, but with an outlet
on top. You could plug in an ordinary ceiling lamp and whatever else
you want. I have no idea what it's called - variations on "socket
adapter" kept coming up with the long extenders, but Home Depot et
al might have one.

Good Luck!
Rich

Jim Thompson · Mar 9, 2005

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:26:33 -0700, "Richard H." <rh86@no.spam> wrote:

- put the garage lights on a motion sensor and do without the
bulb in the opener.

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Chuck Harris · Mar 9, 2005

Hi Jim,

You could go really hi tech, and set up one of those photoelectric
trip beams across your garage door entrance.

-Chuck

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:26:33 -0700, "Richard H." <rh86@no.spam> wrote:

- put the garage lights on a motion sensor and do without the
bulb in the opener.

Motion sensor already there turning on fluorescent ceiling fixtures,
but it doesn't always trip on vehicles, just people.

...Jim Thompson

Michael A. Terrell · Mar 9, 2005

Rich Grise wrote:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:32:30 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

http://www.ioffer.com/i/Bakelite-Electrical-Outlet-Adapters-5412422

The white one is a night light. There used to be a translucent shroud
that snapped into that groove; and it takes a large Xmas tree bulb.
Remember the ones where all the bulbs were 115 and they were in parallel?
I think they might have been about 7 watts, but maybe that's way high -

4 watts was common. these night lights are still sold for a couple
dollars.

I remember the 7 1/2 watt bulbs about the size of a ping-pong ball, but
they had the full-size base. Our night light here takes that smaller
base, it might be "candelabra", but I never have really known if that's
actually it.

The black one looks like just a cube tap.

Cheers!
Rich

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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell · Mar 9, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:26:33 -0700, "Richard H." <rh86@no.spam> wrote:

- put the garage lights on a motion sensor and do without the
bulb in the opener.

Motion sensor already there turning on fluorescent ceiling fixtures,
but it doesn't always trip on vehicles, just people.

...Jim Thompson

If the opener is out of warranty why not cut a small square hole in
it and snap in a square outlet like the ones used for an auxiliary power
outlet, then wire it to the lamp. I might have one around to take a
picture of, if needed.

--
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Jim Thompson · Mar 9, 2005

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:22:36 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:26:33 -0700, "Richard H." <rh86@no.spam> wrote:

- put the garage lights on a motion sensor and do without the
bulb in the opener.

Motion sensor already there turning on fluorescent ceiling fixtures,
but it doesn't always trip on vehicles, just people.

...Jim Thompson

If the opener is out of warranty why not cut a small square hole in
it and snap in a square outlet like the ones used for an auxiliary power
outlet, then wire it to the lamp. I might have one around to take a
picture of, if needed.

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