OT: Coronavirus, huge drop in new cases...

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John Doe

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Last time I looked a few weeks or so ago, there were lots of light
blue hexagons. Not anymore.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Scroll down some.
 
On 8/10/2020 12:47 AM, John Doe wrote:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Massachusetts and RI were doing great for a while on new cases and they
threw the doors open, and some people have been like \"oh wow great!\" and
the restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence are as packed as they\'ve
been since last summer on the weekends, and cases bounce back upwards,
Florida and Texas were flailing and some people are like \"oh shit!\" and
start wearing masks or start staying home more and new cases start dropping

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.
 
On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 3:17:06 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/10/2020 12:47 AM, John Doe wrote:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Massachusetts and RI were doing great for a while on new cases and they
threw the doors open, and some people have been like \"oh wow great!\" and
the restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence are as packed as they\'ve
been since last summer on the weekends, and cases bounce back upwards,
Florida and Texas were flailing and some people are like \"oh shit!\" and
start wearing masks or start staying home more and new cases start dropping

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

You must be mistaken. The spread of this disease has to do with temperature and humidity, not people\'s actions. How could the virus possibly know what people are doing? It has to be the standard impacting causes, process, voltage and temperature... right?

Process is individual innate immunity, voltage is the geographic population density and temperature is... well, temperature, climate.

If Rhode Island is seeing a spike in infection either the climate has suddenly changed or the genetic makup of the people has suddenly changed or the population density has suddenly changed. Hmmmm.... that doesn\'t make much sense does it.

Maybe it is human behavior. How does the virus *know*???

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On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:17:01 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2020 12:47 AM, John Doe wrote:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Massachusetts and RI were doing great for a while on new cases and they
threw the doors open, and some people have been like \"oh wow great!\" and
the restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence are as packed as they\'ve
been since last summer on the weekends, and cases bounce back upwards,
Florida and Texas were flailing and some people are like \"oh shit!\" and
start wearing masks or start staying home more and new cases start dropping

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

Some places are showing a secondary bump, sometimes a big one, but
it\'s hitting younger people this pass, with low death rates.

The articles that I see mostly blame policy and behavior for this,
essentially moral failings. I see almost no mention of other causes,
like genetic drift in the virus.

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

Party on!



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:50:19 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:17:01 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2020 12:47 AM, John Doe wrote:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Massachusetts and RI were doing great for a while on new cases and they
threw the doors open, and some people have been like \"oh wow great!\" and
the restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence are as packed as they\'ve
been since last summer on the weekends, and cases bounce back upwards,
Florida and Texas were flailing and some people are like \"oh shit!\" and
start wearing masks or start staying home more and new cases start dropping

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

Some places are showing a secondary bump, sometimes a big one, but
it\'s hitting younger people this pass, with low death rates.

The articles that I see mostly blame policy and behavior for this,
essentially moral failings. I see almost no mention of other causes,
like genetic drift in the virus.

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

Party on!

Possibly the virus wasn\'t ready for young-people burnout. Maybe it had
to wait til now. Either way, we could have protected old people
better.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On 8/10/2020 11:50 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:17:01 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2020 12:47 AM, John Doe wrote:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Massachusetts and RI were doing great for a while on new cases and they
threw the doors open, and some people have been like \"oh wow great!\" and
the restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence are as packed as they\'ve
been since last summer on the weekends, and cases bounce back upwards,
Florida and Texas were flailing and some people are like \"oh shit!\" and
start wearing masks or start staying home more and new cases start dropping

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

Some places are showing a secondary bump, sometimes a big one, but
it\'s hitting younger people this pass, with low death rates.

The articles that I see mostly blame policy and behavior for this,
essentially moral failings. I see almost no mention of other causes,
like genetic drift in the virus.

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

Party on!

I\'m over 40 and have an underlying health condition that makes me more
vulnerable, and I did plenty of partying when I was younger. I\'m good.
Been to most of the restaurants on Federal anyway, great if you love
Italian food. It\'ll be delivery and carry-out for a while for me, though.

It\'s helpful to me that in MA and Rhode Island, the \"Mom n Pop\" store
never really completely died out the way it did some other places. I can
go to Atomic Appliance if I need kitchen appliance, don\'t need to run
around with 500 other people in Wal-Mart.

Up the road in MA is the last brick and mortar electronics store in New
England that has a whole floor full of just discrete components, test
equipment/scopes, wire and connectors, etc.

Don\'t see stores like this much, anymore:

<https://imgur.com/a/hdE81FA>

Apex department store is still open for business selling men\'s clothing,
yeah half the parking lot is covered in weeds and they\'ve been
predicting the place would be torn down to build a baseball stadium or
luxury condos for 20 years. Just bought some slacks there the other day,
it\'s pretty quiet and I can relax and take my time browsing the goods.
Hey, the mortgage is paid for /shrug
 
On 8/10/2020 11:10 AM, Ricketty C wrote:
On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 3:17:06 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/10/2020 12:47 AM, John Doe wrote:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Massachusetts and RI were doing great for a while on new cases and they
threw the doors open, and some people have been like \"oh wow great!\" and
the restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence are as packed as they\'ve
been since last summer on the weekends, and cases bounce back upwards,
Florida and Texas were flailing and some people are like \"oh shit!\" and
start wearing masks or start staying home more and new cases start dropping

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

You must be mistaken. The spread of this disease has to do with temperature and humidity, not people\'s actions. How could the virus possibly know what people are doing? It has to be the standard impacting causes, process, voltage and temperature... right?

Process is individual innate immunity, voltage is the geographic population density and temperature is... well, temperature, climate.

If Rhode Island is seeing a spike in infection either the climate has suddenly changed or the genetic makup of the people has suddenly changed or the population density has suddenly changed. Hmmmm.... that doesn\'t make much sense does it.

Maybe it is human behavior. How does the virus *know*???

My buddy in RI tested positive for it three weeks ago. He said he\'d had
a few days of dreadful coughing and muscle aches and he was thankfully
OK after that, he wasn\'t sure what it was though and then found out.
He\'s younger than I am, about 35.

He\'d been in the hospital a few nights for emergency (appendix, IIRC)
surgery a few weeks prior too, the guy has had a real rough summer. He
doesn\'t think he got it in the hospital though, he went out to dinner a
few times on Federal Hill after the surgery with the crowds he thinks
that\'s the most likely. Knowing him I\'m sure he wore a mask and did his
best to be careful and distance but from the look of things as I seen it
there are just too many people around there on the weekends now for that
to work.
 
On 8/10/2020 12:32 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:50:19 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:17:01 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2020 12:47 AM, John Doe wrote:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Massachusetts and RI were doing great for a while on new cases and they
threw the doors open, and some people have been like \"oh wow great!\" and
the restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence are as packed as they\'ve
been since last summer on the weekends, and cases bounce back upwards,
Florida and Texas were flailing and some people are like \"oh shit!\" and
start wearing masks or start staying home more and new cases start dropping

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

Some places are showing a secondary bump, sometimes a big one, but
it\'s hitting younger people this pass, with low death rates.

The articles that I see mostly blame policy and behavior for this,
essentially moral failings. I see almost no mention of other causes,
like genetic drift in the virus.

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

Party on!

Possibly the virus wasn\'t ready for young-people burnout. Maybe it had
to wait til now. Either way, we could have protected old people
better.

Yeah it\'s weird how there was always the money for 20 years of global
\"War on Terrorism\" at a price tag pushing 3 trillion dollars with very
little to show for it but the Feds balked at giving seniors a few measly
extra grand for a few months to stay home and pay for Instacart and some
cleaning/care services so they don\'t die.

Funny how that works
 
On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 8:50:29 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

But... doesn\'t that convert young healthy people into persons with preexisting
conditions, looking forward to a long future full of other viruses?

Fortunately, health care professionals don\'t agree with that assessment.
 
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:55:21 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2020 12:32 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:50:19 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:17:01 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2020 12:47 AM, John Doe wrote:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Massachusetts and RI were doing great for a while on new cases and they
threw the doors open, and some people have been like \"oh wow great!\" and
the restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence are as packed as they\'ve
been since last summer on the weekends, and cases bounce back upwards,
Florida and Texas were flailing and some people are like \"oh shit!\" and
start wearing masks or start staying home more and new cases start dropping

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

Some places are showing a secondary bump, sometimes a big one, but
it\'s hitting younger people this pass, with low death rates.

The articles that I see mostly blame policy and behavior for this,
essentially moral failings. I see almost no mention of other causes,
like genetic drift in the virus.

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

Party on!

Possibly the virus wasn\'t ready for young-people burnout. Maybe it had
to wait til now. Either way, we could have protected old people
better.




Yeah it\'s weird how there was always the money for 20 years of global
\"War on Terrorism\" at a price tag pushing 3 trillion dollars with very
little to show for it but the Feds balked at giving seniors a few measly
extra grand for a few months to stay home and pay for Instacart and some
cleaning/care services so they don\'t die.

Funny how that works

There was sure no lack of money. What was missing was sense and guts.
 
On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:55:21 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2020 12:32 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:50:19 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:17:01 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2020 12:47 AM, John Doe wrote:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Massachusetts and RI were doing great for a while on new cases and they
threw the doors open, and some people have been like \"oh wow great!\" and
the restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence are as packed as they\'ve
been since last summer on the weekends, and cases bounce back upwards,
Florida and Texas were flailing and some people are like \"oh shit!\" and
start wearing masks or start staying home more and new cases start dropping

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

Some places are showing a secondary bump, sometimes a big one, but
it\'s hitting younger people this pass, with low death rates.

The articles that I see mostly blame policy and behavior for this,
essentially moral failings. I see almost no mention of other causes,
like genetic drift in the virus.

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

Party on!

Possibly the virus wasn\'t ready for young-people burnout. Maybe it had
to wait til now. Either way, we could have protected old people
better.




Yeah it\'s weird how there was always the money for 20 years of global
\"War on Terrorism\" at a price tag pushing 3 trillion dollars with very
little to show for it but the Feds balked at giving seniors a few measly
extra grand for a few months to stay home and pay for Instacart and some
cleaning/care services so they don\'t die.

Funny how that works

There was sure no lack of money. What was missing was sense and guts.

Hunting Bin Laden ruthlessly until he was captured and bringing him back
to the US alive if possible to stand trial for his crimes, in hindsight
would have been the far more morally satisfying and cost-effective thing
to do IMO
 
On 8/10/2020 5:47 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 8/10/2020 3:36 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:55:21 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2020 12:32 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:50:19 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:17:01 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 8/10/2020 12:47 AM, John Doe wrote:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-
tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

Massachusetts and RI were doing great for a while on new cases and
they
threw the doors open, and some people have been like \"oh wow
great!\" and
the restaurants on Federal Hill in Providence are as packed as
they\'ve
been since last summer on the weekends, and cases bounce back
upwards,
Florida and Texas were flailing and some people are like \"oh
shit!\" and
start wearing masks or start staying home more and new cases start
dropping

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode
Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants
bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly
business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

Some places are showing a secondary bump, sometimes a big one, but
it\'s hitting younger people this pass, with low death rates.

The articles that I see mostly blame policy and behavior for this,
essentially moral failings. I see almost no mention of other causes,
like genetic drift in the virus.

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

Party on!

Possibly the virus wasn\'t ready for young-people burnout. Maybe it had
to wait til now. Either way, we could have protected old people
better.




Yeah it\'s weird how there was always the money for 20 years of global
\"War on Terrorism\" at a price tag pushing 3 trillion dollars with very
little to show for it but the Feds balked at giving seniors a few measly
extra grand for a few months to stay home and pay for Instacart and some
cleaning/care services so they don\'t die.

Funny how that works

There was sure no lack of money. What was missing was sense and guts.


Hunting Bin Laden ruthlessly until he was captured and bringing him back
to the US alive if possible to stand trial for his crimes, in hindsight
would have been the far more morally satisfying and cost-effective thing
to do IMO

Unfortunately the public tends to demand grand spectacle of equal
magnitude and would have a problem sitting around being assured \"we\'re
working on it\" by the government, even if they were. No patience to wait
18 months to be impressed by \"Oh by the way...\" and casually trot out
Bin Laden at a press conference on some other topic.

Obama did the causal \"we got him\"-routine but it was about ten years too
late to be impressive to anyone.
 
On 10/08/2020 17:32, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:50:19 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:17:01 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

Some places are showing a secondary bump, sometimes a big one, but
it\'s hitting younger people this pass, with low death rates.

The articles that I see mostly blame policy and behavior for this,
essentially moral failings. I see almost no mention of other causes,
like genetic drift in the virus.

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

Party on!

Possibly the virus wasn\'t ready for young-people burnout. Maybe it had
to wait til now. Either way, we could have protected old people
better.

You seem to conveniently forget your history. The initial seed outbreak
in Europe was amongst the fit young ski set holidaying in Northern
Italy. That was one reason why early on Germany had such anomalously low
fatality rates compared to other countries - it was circulating in the
young fit clubbers who mostly did not succumb to complications.

Later on Germany became much more aware of the 10 day in complications
and made a serious effort to check up on those sent home and told to
take paracetamol at about the time any bad effects might set in. That
worked to reduce fatalities there. It is a quirk of becoming anoxic that
you just feel happy, light headed and fail do do important things.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On 10/08/2020 20:19, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 8:50:29 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

But... doesn\'t that convert young healthy people into persons with preexisting
conditions, looking forward to a long future full of other viruses?

Fortunately, health care professionals don\'t agree with that assessment.

The other way around though it does make sense. Society needs to be much
smarter about how it locks down the next time the virus infection shoots
up and it is showing distinct signs of doing so in the summer holidays.

UK government considered a lock down for the over 50\'s (which I think is
slightly on the high side - 45 is about the break point between
acceptable risk and a bit too close to the bone). However, the tabloids
were all up in arms because it was ageist and \"unfair\" to the elderly.

It may yet come to that or closing all the pubs and restaurants to
everyone when schools reopen fully next month.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 10:47:46 +0100, Martin Brown
<\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 10/08/2020 17:32, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:50:19 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:17:01 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

\'Round and round she goes. Nah I\'m not surprised at all Rhode Island is
jumping up some now, the beaches are open, most of the restaurants bars
and clubs too, aside from some haphazard mask use it\'s mostly business-
as-usual. As I say I rolled thru Federal Hill the other night where a
lot of the restaurants and night-life is, place was hoppin\'.

Some places are showing a secondary bump, sometimes a big one, but
it\'s hitting younger people this pass, with low death rates.

The articles that I see mostly blame policy and behavior for this,
essentially moral failings. I see almost no mention of other causes,
like genetic drift in the virus.

I think it\'s good if young healthy people get this and become immune,
before winter. That should have been policy early on. We could have
saved a lot of lives.

Party on!

Possibly the virus wasn\'t ready for young-people burnout. Maybe it had
to wait til now. Either way, we could have protected old people
better.

You seem to conveniently forget your history.

Always personal, always insults first. That\'s what the internet has
down to most of us.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 12:50:21 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 10:47:46 +0100, Martin Brown
\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 10/08/2020 17:32, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:50:19 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:17:01 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

<snip>

Possibly the virus wasn\'t ready for young-people burnout. Maybe it had
to wait til now. Either way, we could have protected old people
better.

You seem to conveniently forget your history.

Always personal, always insults first. That\'s what the internet has
down to most of us.

What Martin Brown wrote was rather longer and clearly not insulting.

\"You seem to conveniently forget your history. The initial seed outbreak
in Europe was amongst the fit young ski set holidaying in Northern
Italy. That was one reason why early on Germany had such anomalously low
fatality rates compared to other countries - it was circulating in the
young fit clubbers who mostly did not succumb to complications.

Later on Germany became much more aware of the 10 day in complications
and made a serious effort to check up on those sent home and told to
take paracetamol at about the time any bad effects might set in. That
worked to reduce fatalities there. It is a quirk of becoming anoxic that
you just feel happy, light headed and fail do do important things. \"

The history that had been \"forgotten\" was just detailed information.

John Larkin snipped most of it, and posted a decidedly rude and inaccurate reaction.

It may be he only read the first sentence, misunderstood it, and didn\'t bother reading any more, but even that\'s it\'s not an impressive performance.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Ricketty C wrote:

> I have all the answers!

Yeah, sure you do. That\'s why you\'re spouting your answers here on
USENET instead of affecting anything.

Your \"answers\" are only effective in a vacuum. The virus is killing some
people, but so is unemployment. We don\'t want the cure to be worse than
the disease.
 
On 8/13/2020 6:43 AM, John Doe wrote:
Ricketty C wrote:

I have all the answers!

Yeah, sure you do. That\'s why you\'re spouting your answers here on
USENET instead of affecting anything.

Your \"answers\" are only effective in a vacuum. The virus is killing some
people, but so is unemployment. We don\'t want the cure to be worse than
the disease.

You\'re assuming \"unemployment\" is solely the result of \"nasty\" *imposed*
lockdowns.

We\'ve been \"open\", here, since forever. Businesses are closing because folks
aren\'t \"out\", needlessly. \"I can live (literally!) without that dinner at
Chez Bob\" -- so, Bob finds it costs him more to keep the doors open and
staff paid for very few customers (he\'d be better off if he\'d voluntarily
closed down and only had to worry about paying his rent... \"sorry, employees\"!)

[We\'ll likely see a big uptick in unemployment as PPP expires and those
zombie companies close down. Likewise, in October when the airlines start
shedding \"subsidized payroll\"]

And, the ripple effect of people fearing that they may be in the same boat as
Chez Bob\'s employees, RSN. \"No, I don\'t think I should buy another 60\" TV
right now. I can always buy it next month/year, if things get better!\"

Early on, young people considered themselves \"immune\" in that they wouldn\'t
die from the illness. Now, half of our cases are under 45yo and those
folks are realizing that getting sick AND LIVING can be just as bad for them
(\"Sorry, Tom, we gave your job to someone else. After all, you\'ve been gone
for two months -- and only had 4 sick days available! We\'ve got a long list
of folks applying for jobs... YOUR job!\")
 

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