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John Doe

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An insane, probably drunk, incessant troll.
Poor baby knows it will never post to USENET again
without its nyms being exposed...

see also...
=?UTF-8?B?8J+QriBDb3dzIGFyZSBOaWNlIPCfkK4=?= <nice@cows.moo>
Banders <snap@mailchute.com>
Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org>
Cows Are Nice <cows@nice.moo>
Cows are nice <moo@cows.org>
Cows are Nice <nice@cows.moo>
dogs <dogs@home.com>
Great Pumpkin <pumpkin@patch.net>
Jose Curvo <jcurvo@mymail.com>
Local Favorite <how2recycle@palomar.info>
Sea <freshness@coast.org>
Standard Poodle <standard@poodle.com>
and others...

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Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org> wrote:

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From: Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: OT: Amazon is down
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On 09/16/2020 10:52 AM, John Doe wrote:
Lots of words with the same pronunciation \"ear\" or \"we\'re\" as in
\"weird\" but spelled \"ie\". Here\'s a few...

bier, fierce, pier, pierce, tier, tierce, financier, brigadier,
grenadier, cashier, cavalier, chandelier, chevalier, gondolier,
vernier, croupier, cuirassier, frontier, brevier

fiery


The correct spelling of \"wierd\" is weird.

Real sharp, now you\'re telling yourself.

I wrote:

The misspelling \"wierd\" (pronounced the same as \"weird\")

No, dopey, your fake word could as well be pronounced wired. Because the
\"ie\" in lots of words has the same pronunciation as in fiery.

is the
same pronunciation as in two TIERS of justice, or two TIERS of
intelligence, and lots of other such words. That\'s in fact how
it\'s pronounced according to English pronunciation rules.

Just remember how to spell it and you won\'t have to make up silly
arguments about pronunciation rules for your misspelled words.
 
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Corvid

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John Doe, weasel:

There are easy to follow English rules. Proper English is a concise
language.
I\'m sure you don\'t know what concise means.
Will you explain how English is concise?
 
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Mike Coon

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In article <rk2rka$21m$1@gioia.aioe.org>, bl@ckbirds.org says...
John Doe, weasel:


There are easy to follow English rules. Proper English is a concise
language.

I\'m sure you don\'t know what concise means.
Will you explain how English is concise?
I have not so described English. But if you consider a language with
severely limited vocabulary, you potentially have to use more basic
words so convey a subtle concept. E.g. compare with Pidgin English.
 
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John Doe

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Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org> wrote:

John Doe, weasel:

There are easy to follow English rules. Proper English is a
concise language.

I\'m sure you don\'t know what concise means. Will you explain how
English is concise?
My definition of \"save\" is concise.
I saw the convoluted definition and, with the help of
Merriam-Webster, changed it to a concise definition. You can find it
in all English dictionaries nowadays. I\'m talking about the sense of
\"save\" you hear every day all day, mainly in advertising. Let me
know if you are confused about that and want more information. It\'s
my favorite subject.
 
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Corvid

Guest
John Doe, weasel:
Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org> wrote:
John Doe, weasel:

There are easy to follow English rules.
Your example failed. There was no rule there to follow anyway.

Proper English is a concise language.

I\'m sure you don\'t know what concise means. Will you explain how
English is concise?

My definition of \"save\" is concise.
Ambiguous, already.

I saw the convoluted definition and, with the help of
Merriam-Webster, changed it to a concise definition. You can find it
in all English dictionaries nowadays. I\'m talking about the sense of
\"save\" you hear every day all day, mainly in advertising. Let me know
if you are confused about that and want more information. It\'s my
favorite subject.
That wasn\'t very concise either.
Are you going to explain how English is a concise language?
 
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John Doe

Guest
The little nym-shifting troll is getting excited
about getting some of my attention...

see also...
=?UTF-8?B?8J+QriBDb3dzIGFyZSBOaWNlIPCfkK4=?= <nice@cows.moo>
Banders <snap@mailchute.com>
Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org>
Cows Are Nice <cows@nice.moo>
Cows are nice <moo@cows.org>
Cows are Nice <nice@cows.moo>
dogs <dogs@home.com>
Great Pumpkin <pumpkin@patch.net>
Jose Curvo <jcurvo@mymail.com>
Local Favorite <how2recycle@palomar.info>
Sea <freshness@coast.org>
Standard Poodle <standard@poodle.com>
and others...

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John Doe, weasel:
Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org> wrote:
John Doe, weasel:

There are easy to follow English rules.

Your example failed. There was no rule there to follow anyway.

Proper English is a concise language.

I\'m sure you don\'t know what concise means. Will you explain how
English is concise?

My definition of \"save\" is concise.

Ambiguous, already.

I saw the convoluted definition and, with the help of
Merriam-Webster, changed it to a concise definition. You can find it
in all English dictionaries nowadays. I\'m talking about the sense of
\"save\" you hear every day all day, mainly in advertising. Let me know
if you are confused about that and want more information. It\'s my
favorite subject.

That wasn\'t very concise either.
Are you going to explain how English is a concise language?
 
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Corvid

Guest
John Doe weasel:
The little nym-shifting troll is getting excited
about getting some of my attention...
I guess you\'re jacking off now.
 
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Bill Sloman

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On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 2:12:07 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:

<sip>

> There are easy to follow English rules.

Not all that many. Most them don\'t make a lot of sense.

> Proper English is a concise language.

It can be used that way, but mostly isn\'t.

It\'s the standard international language and it\'s the language used most for high-tech.

There\'s nothing standard about it. At the moment it is the language that many people with money to spend can read, so there\'s lots of stuff published in it.

> English is on everybody\'s clothing, even on people who don\'t speak English :D

So what.

If you want to practice standard English, use Dragon NaturallySpeaking
(like I have for over 20 years) or Google\'s perhaps not as intelligent,
but powerful, server-based speech recognition. You can also use a text-
to-speech program. Whether it\'s the best standard who knows, but it is a
CLEAR standard with hard and fast rules.
Not remotely clear, and the \"hard and fast rules\" seem to have lot of exceptions, not to mention regional variations.

I get a kick out of listening to my text to speech program pronounce all
sorts of weird words. I love not having to mess with it.
A strange way of amusing yourself. In fact text to speech translation depends on having a huge library of examples, and enough artificial intelligence to search the whole library and extract the bizarre rules that work. Human attempts at the job were never much good.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
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John Doe

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A cannibal leftist America-bashing regular troll...

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On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 2:12:07 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:

sip

There are easy to follow English rules.

Not all that many. Most them don\'t make a lot of sense.

Proper English is a concise language.

It can be used that way, but mostly isn\'t.

It\'s the standard international language and it\'s the language used most for high-tech.

There\'s nothing standard about it. At the moment it is the language that many people with money to spend can read, so there\'s lots of stuff published in it.

English is on everybody\'s clothing, even on people who don\'t speak Englis
h :D

So what.

If you want to practice standard English, use Dragon NaturallySpeaking
(like I have for over 20 years) or Google\'s perhaps not as intelligent,

but powerful, server-based speech recognition. You can also use a text-

to-speech program. Whether it\'s the best standard who knows, but it is a

CLEAR standard with hard and fast rules.

Not remotely clear, and the \"hard and fast rules\" seem to have lot of exceptions, not to mention regional variations.

I get a kick out of listening to my text to speech program pronounce all

sorts of weird words. I love not having to mess with it.

A strange way of amusing yourself. In fact text to speech translation depends on having a huge library of examples, and enough artificial intelligence to search the whole library and extract the bizarre rules that work. Human attempts at the job were never much good.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
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Corvid

Guest
On 09/18/2020 02:17 PM, Mike Coon wrote:
In article <rk2rka$21m$1@gioia.aioe.org>, bl@ckbirds.org says...

John Doe, weasel:


There are easy to follow English rules. Proper English is a
concise language.
Ha-ha-ha!

I\'m sure you don\'t know what concise means. Will you explain how
English is concise?

I have not so described English.
The weasel has.

But if you consider a language with severely limited vocabulary, you
potentially have to use more basic words so convey a subtle concept.
E.g. compare with Pidgin English.
What I found regarding Pidgin English says it\'s used typically in
commerce at Chinese shipping ports. I still don\'t know what it is.
I enjoy reading Chinglish quick-start guides.

American Sign Language may be concise, if any language is.
 
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