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From: Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org
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Subject: Re: One of man\'s greatest achievements
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On 2022-01-11, John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:
Jasen Betts wrote:
OBAMA TRASHING OUR SPACE PROGRAM AND PAYING OUR MORTAL ENEMY $82 MILLION
EACH TO TAKE OUR BEST AND BRIGHTEST TO THE SPACE STATION WAS PATRIOTIC
AND GOOD!!!
I will report to reeducation camp immediately, comrade.
That is not what I wrote. yoe need to get those delusions sorted out
first.
--
Jasen.
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 5:17:32 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 8:35:23 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:12:20 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:34:30 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:08:45 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:41:41 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux ...@decadence.org wrote:
This is commendable work...
Many nations involved.
Many many tons of gear down here and techs and engineers to make use of it...
https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html
It\'s just government welfare to keep the crappy space agencies alive. Only a simple minded fool would take anything they say at face value. They\'re just a bunch of career liars and cheats.
Fred does like to keep thing simple enough for him to understand. Working out what the James Webb telescope is intended to do is quite beyond him, while the idea that people involved are career liars and cheats is much less demanding. It\'s also pretty implausible, but Fred hasn\'t got a lot of options.
Unlike Cursitor Doom, he doesn\'t actively demand implausible explanations, but he\'s not got enough sense left to differentiate between degrees of implausibility.
You don\'t know what you\'re talking about or how things are done.
You do like to make that claim. The implication is that you think you do, but you don\'t post anything that suggests that you have a clue. Claiming the unspecified people are \"career liars and cheats\" is a rather unspecific allegation, but that does seem to be as much as you can manage.
The space telescope idea has been around a long time, and quite of lot of work on prospective systems was funded, even though there was no actual program.
The really hard stuff was already done by the time they committed to a new program.
These crummy overpriced boondoggles are all fantasy science.
Or so Fred likes to think. His idea of a \"fantasy science\" does see
m to extend into fields that more sensible people see as real science, but Fred has edited out since his brains turned to mush.
They don\'t observe a single thing that is applicable to life on Earth.
Neither does Fred. He doesn\'t seem to have noticed that LIGO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO
hasn\'t either, but that this hasn\'t prevented it from being a a dramatic success.
Who gives a damn about gravitational waves?
People who are slightly less pig-ignorant that you are. There are quite a few of them
Dunno what kind of moron would expect a pig to be well read.
That is the point of the insult.
That and few other idiotic slurs seem to be your favorites. The thing is, I don\'t really see you rising above the level of decrepitude you abhor.
You can\'t. You don\'t know enough to distinguish shit from Shinola, so it all looks decrepit to you.
Then you and a lot of other sycophants conveniently ignore the huge expense of operating these boondoggles, and this despite the liars and cheaters misrepresenting how well they\'re doing, or not doing, and the limitless waste.
Since you aren\'t equipped to notice when they do deliver what they promise, you do like to assume that everything you can\'t understand is a pointless boondoggle.
If you went to the trouble of identifying something specific, we\'d have to take you more seriously, but you aren\'t up anything beyond vague generalisations.
Some of these hellholes require a small freight train of resupply of components on a weekly basis. I\'m sure that\'s all legitimate.
Specific example?
Bozo... The problem is you sling insults directed at the poster and not at something the poster wrote.
On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 5:17:32 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 8:35:23 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:12:20 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:34:30 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:08:45 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:41:41 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
This is commendable work...
Many nations involved.
Many many tons of gear down here and techs and engineers to make use
of it...
https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html
It\'s just government welfare to keep the crappy space agencies alive. Only a simple minded fool would take anything they say at face value. They\'re just a bunch of career liars and cheats.
Fred does like to keep thing simple enough for him to understand. Working out what the James Webb telescope is intended to do is quite beyond him, while the idea that people involved are career liars and cheats is much less demanding. It\'s also pretty implausible, but Fred hasn\'t got a lot of options.
Unlike Cursitor Doom, he doesn\'t actively demand implausible explanations, but he\'s not got enough sense left to differentiate between degrees of implausibility.
You don\'t know what you\'re talking about or how things are done..
You do like to make that claim. The implication is that you think you do, but you don\'t post anything that suggests that you have a clue. Claiming the unspecified people are \"career liars and cheats\" is a rather unspecific allegation, but that does seem to be as much as you can manage
The space telescope idea has been around a long time, and quite of lot of work on prospective systems was funded, even though there was no actual program.
The really hard stuff was already done by the time they committed to a new program.
These crummy overpriced boondoggles are all fantasy science.
Or so Fred likes to think. His idea of a \"fantasy science\" does seem to extend into fields that more sensible people see as real science, but Fred has edited out since his brains turned to mush.
They don\'t observe a single thing that is applicable to life on Earth.
Neither does Fred. He doesn\'t seem to have noticed that LIGO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO
hasn\'t either, but that this hasn\'t prevented it from being a a dramatic success.
Who gives a damn about gravitational waves?
People who are slightly less pig-ignorant that you are. There are quite a few of them
Dunno what kind of moron would expect a pig to be well read.
That is the point of the insult.
That and few other idiotic slurs seem to be your favorites. The thing is, I don\'t really see you rising above the level of decrepitude you abhor.
You can\'t. You don\'t know enough to distinguish shit from Shinola, so it all looks decrepit to you.
Then you and a lot of other sycophants conveniently ignore the huge expense of operating these boondoggles, and this despite the liars and cheaters misrepresenting how well they\'re doing, or not doing, and the limitless waste.
Since you aren\'t equipped to notice when they do deliver what they promise, you do like to assume that everything you can\'t understand is a pointless boondoggle.
If you went to the trouble of identifying something specific, we\'d have to take you more seriously, but you aren\'t up anything beyond vague generalisations.
Some of these hellholes require a small freight train of resupply of components on a weekly basis. I\'m sure that\'s all legitimate.
Specific example?
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 8:28:40 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 5:17:32 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 8:35:23 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:12:20 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:34:30 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:08:45 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:41:41 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Since you aren\'t equipped to notice when they do deliver what they promise, you do like to assume that everything you can\'t understand is a pointless boondoggle.
Who\'s going to give a damn when what they promised was garbage too?
If you went to the trouble of identifying something specific, we\'d have to take you more seriously, but you aren\'t up anything beyond vague generalisations.
Everything seems vague to an idiot who needs everything spelled out for him.
Some of these hellholes require a small freight train of resupply of components on a weekly basis. I\'m sure that\'s all legitimate.
Specific example?
Not my job to enlighten you.
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
On 2022-01-11 17:05, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/01/2022 02:21, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 1:27:39 PM UTC-5, Jeroen Belleman
wrote:
If you combine red shift with Olber\'s paradox, you also end up
with a uniform thermal background at about the same temperature.
I can\'t say I appreciate Olber\'s paradox. Perhaps I\'ve not seen a
good explanation of it. I\'ve often wondered myself why the sky is
not more uniformly lit, but I reasoned that the more distant stars
would be much weaker in appearance and so not make the sky
uniformly bright. I had not considered that a red shift would also
remove much of the light from the visible spectrum.
There are a couple of other problems with it.
You need both an infinite universe and an infinite amount of time
and/or infinite speed of light for the light rays from every star to
reach you.
Let\'s face it, the universe is mind boggling either way. I don\'t
see why an infinite universe would be any more so than one that
sprung from nothing 13.7 Gyr ago. It\'s not like the BB idea is
without its problems, now is it?
Most people imagine that prior to the Big Bang there was space with
nothing in it (not helped by popular science programmes showing an
explosion) as opposed to nothing at all - ie no spacetime.
On 13/1/22 8:02 pm, Martin Brown wrote:
Most people imagine that prior to the Big Bang there was space with
nothing in it (not helped by popular science programmes showing an
explosion) as opposed to nothing at all - ie no spacetime.
\"prior to the Big Bang\" - if there was no time, how can the word \"prior\"
even be well-defined?
CH
On 1/13/22 14:16, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 13/1/22 8:02 pm, Martin Brown wrote:
Most people imagine that prior to the Big Bang there was space with
nothing in it (not helped by popular science programmes showing an
explosion) as opposed to nothing at all - ie no spacetime.
\"prior to the Big Bang\" - if there was no time, how can the word \"prior\"
even be well-defined?
CH
The Big Bang didn\'t occur earlier, or later, than it did, so there had
to be time already in place.
On 13/1/22 8:02 pm, Martin Brown wrote:
Most people imagine that prior to the Big Bang there was space with
nothing in it (not helped by popular science programmes showing an
explosion) as opposed to nothing at all - ie no spacetime.
\"prior to the Big Bang\" - if there was no time, how can the word \"prior\"
even be well-defined?
On 1/13/22 14:16, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 13/1/22 8:02 pm, Martin Brown wrote:
Most people imagine that prior to the Big Bang there was space with
nothing in it (not helped by popular science programmes showing an
explosion) as opposed to nothing at all - ie no spacetime.
\"prior to the Big Bang\" - if there was no time, how can the word \"prior\"
even be well-defined?
CH
The Big Bang didn\'t occur earlier, or later, than it did, so there had
to be time already in place.
On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 6:08:22 PM UTC-5, corvid wrote:
On 1/13/22 14:16, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 13/1/22 8:02 pm, Martin Brown wrote:
Most people imagine that prior to the Big Bang there was space
with nothing in it (not helped by popular science programmes
showing an explosion) as opposed to nothing at all - ie no
spacetime.
\"prior to the Big Bang\" - if there was no time, how can the word
\"prior\" even be well-defined?
CH
The Big Bang didn\'t occur earlier, or later, than it did, so there
had to be time already in place.
No, there is no basis for assuming that time existed before the
origin point.