One of man\'s greatest achievements...

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Anthony William Sloman

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On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:08:45 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:41:41 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
This is commendable work...

Many nations involved.

Many many tons of gear down here and techs and engineers to make use
of it...

https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html

It\'s just government welfare to keep the crappy space agencies alive. Only a simple minded fool would take anything they say at face value. They\'re just a bunch of career liars and cheats.

Fred does like to keep thing simple enough for him to understand. Working out what the James Webb telescope is intended to do is quite beyond him, while the idea that people involved are career liars and cheats is much less demanding. It\'s also pretty implausible, but Fred hasn\'t got a lot of options.

Unlike Cursitor Doom, he doesn\'t actively demand implausible explanations, but he\'s not got enough sense left to differentiate between degrees of implausibility.

You don\'t know what you\'re talking about or how things are done.

You do like to make that claim. The implication is that you think you do, but you don\'t post anything that suggests that you have a clue. Claiming the unspecified people are \"career liars and cheats\" is a rather unspecific allegation, but that does seem to be as much as you can manage

The space telescope idea has been around a long time, and quite of lot of work on prospective systems was funded, even though there was no actual program.

The really hard stuff was already done by the time they committed to a new program.

These crummy overpriced boondoggles are all fantasy science.

Or so Fred likes to think.

> They don\'t observe a single thing that is applicable to life on Earth.

Neither does Fred. He doesn\'t seem to have noticed that LIGO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO

hasn\'t either, but that this hasn\'t prevented it from being a a dramatic success.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
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Rick C

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On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 1:58:22 PM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
news:4bab59d0-210e-402e...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:07:20 PM UTC+11, Martin Brown
wrote:
On 08/01/2022 23:03, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-01-08 22:44, Arnie Dwyer (ex Jan Frank) wrote:
whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 11:12:12 PM UTC-8, Arnie Dwyer
(ex Jan Frank) wrote:

I\'m resigned to there being dark matter since otherwise galaxies
would simply fly apart. Until comparatively recently you could
have hidden it as chair legs, sticks or rhubarb or old biro pens
but not any more. It now has to be something that doesn\'t
interact with EM radiation.

There\'s a conceptually simpler alternative.

https://www.springer.com/gp/about-springer/media/research-news/all-
english-research-news/factoring-in-gravitomagnetism-could-do-away-w
ith-dark-matter/18928150

Since the mathematics seems to be totally hideous, the simplicity
is confined to the conceptual part.

I suppose we can hope that dark energy might turn out to be some
interaction that is equally difficult to think about.

snip

I look at the surface of a black coffee I just made. I stir it up
to a fairly laminar fast pace stirring. Then, pour the creamer in
very slowly right at the edge of the cup and it will not mix
completely and you will see a \"galaxy\" form on the surface in the
center. That effect is bound by gravity, but the mass of coffee
under the \"galaxy\" is HUGE and it \"stirs\" or rotates the entire
galaxy around as a whole (the velocity problem). Ok, so let\'s go 3D
now.

Look at the Sombrero galaxy. VERY flat and most of what we call
matter out near the fringe edges of \"the disc\". Think of that with a
GIANT \"hershey\'s Kiss\" under it and another on top of it. Two big
plops of dark matter spinning above and below the whole galaxy, and
the galaxy itself (the part we call matter) is just a thin membrane
sandwiched between those two enormous structures.

That is a very weak interaction but is able to spin the galaxy at
the rate that causes cosmologists to declare it to exists.

So a Galaxy also has these two giant hershey\'s kiss shaped swirls
of Dark matter above and below their equatorial plane that are many
many times larger than the galaxy as we know it or see it.

What do you think of them apples?

It\'s pretty clear you have little understanding of cosmology or even food. Hershey\'s kisses don\'t go with apples all that well. Besides, the rotation of the galaxies would turn the kisses into swirls of frozen yogurt.

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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
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It\'s pretty clear you have little understanding of cosmology or
even food.

Goddamn boy, you are a fucking total retard.

> Hershey\'s kisses don\'t go with apples all that well.

WTF are you mumbling about, fucktard?

The SHAPE of the hershey\'s kiss, you stupid fucktard. THAT is what
it referred to. Essentially, it is YOU that lacks a grasp of even
the simplest things.

Besides, the rotation of the galaxies would turn the kisses into
swirls of frozen yogurt.

You are a fucking abject idiot. There are images of a network of
dark matter \"strings\" connecting between \"nodes\" within which are our
galaxies.

Those nodes are what I described.

Oh, and did I say FUCK YOU yet, jackass motherfucker. No... well,
then FUCK YOU, RICKY TICKY TWERP.

It\'s pretty clear that your skull is as thick and dense as the shit
constantly spurting out of your upper anus.

See if you can picture that, fucktard.
 
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Fred Bloggs

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On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:34:30 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:08:45 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:41:41 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
This is commendable work...

Many nations involved.

Many many tons of gear down here and techs and engineers to make use
of it...

https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html

It\'s just government welfare to keep the crappy space agencies alive. Only a simple minded fool would take anything they say at face value. They\'re just a bunch of career liars and cheats.

Fred does like to keep thing simple enough for him to understand. Working out what the James Webb telescope is intended to do is quite beyond him, while the idea that people involved are career liars and cheats is much less demanding. It\'s also pretty implausible, but Fred hasn\'t got a lot of options.

Unlike Cursitor Doom, he doesn\'t actively demand implausible explanations, but he\'s not got enough sense left to differentiate between degrees of implausibility.

You don\'t know what you\'re talking about or how things are done.
You do like to make that claim. The implication is that you think you do, but you don\'t post anything that suggests that you have a clue. Claiming the unspecified people are \"career liars and cheats\" is a rather unspecific allegation, but that does seem to be as much as you can manage
The space telescope idea has been around a long time, and quite of lot of work on prospective systems was funded, even though there was no actual program.

The really hard stuff was already done by the time they committed to a new program.

These crummy overpriced boondoggles are all fantasy science.
Or so Fred likes to think.
They don\'t observe a single thing that is applicable to life on Earth.
Neither does Fred. He doesn\'t seem to have noticed that LIGO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO

hasn\'t either, but that this hasn\'t prevented it from being a a dramatic success.

Who gives a damn about gravitational waves?




--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
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John Walliker

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On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 12:12:20 UTC, Fred Bloggs wrote:

hasn\'t either, but that this hasn\'t prevented it from being a a dramatic success.
Who gives a damn about gravitational waves?
I do.
John
 
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John Doe

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Jasen Betts wrote:

OBAMA TRASHING OUR SPACE PROGRAM AND PAYING OUR MORTAL ENEMY $82 MILLION
EACH TO TAKE OUR BEST AND BRIGHTEST TO THE SPACE STATION WAS PATRIOTIC
AND GOOD!!!

I will report to reeducation camp immediately, comrade.
 
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Martin Brown

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On 10/01/2022 18:27, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-01-10 16:05, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-01-10 11:07, Martin Brown wrote:
On 08/01/2022 23:03, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

One might hope that the JWST brings some order to cosmology,
because in its current form, it\'s little better than Genesis.

Jeroen Belleman

That is a little unfair. Big Bang cosmology (a derogatory name
coined by Fred Hoyle to mock it) has gone a long way to
explaining how things are as they are and why we are living in
such a complex universe.

[..]

Big bang cosmology has altogether too many unphysical patches. It\'s
just another creation myth instead of a coherent physical theory.

I predict we will discover ever more galaxies, with ever more
extreme red shifts. There will be no \"edge of the universe\", no
\"recombination epoch\".

Jeroen Belleman

We know there\'s a recombination epoch because (apart from the dipole
term) the CMB has nearly the same temperature in every direction.

And the statistical fluctations eventually observed are in agreement
with the theory (no other compelling reason why that should be).
If you combine red shift with Olber\'s paradox, you also end up
with a uniform thermal background at about the same temperature.

Not quite though and in a way that is experimentally distinguishable.

The statistical imprint on the CMB is remarkably in close agreement with
the models of how the universe evolved from the initial expansion.

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Anthony William Sloman

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On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:51:03 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
Jasen Betts wrote:

OBAMA TRASHING OUR SPACE PROGRAM AND PAYING OUR MORTAL ENEMY $82 MILLION
EACH TO TAKE OUR BEST AND BRIGHTEST TO THE SPACE STATION WAS PATRIOTIC
AND GOOD!!!

I will report to re-education camp immediately, comrade.

A total waste of time. John Doe is incapable of getting educated.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
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Anthony William Sloman

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On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:12:20 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:34:30 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:08:45 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:41:41 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
This is commendable work...

Many nations involved.

Many many tons of gear down here and techs and engineers to make use
of it...

https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html

It\'s just government welfare to keep the crappy space agencies alive. Only a simple minded fool would take anything they say at face value. They\'re just a bunch of career liars and cheats.

Fred does like to keep thing simple enough for him to understand. Working out what the James Webb telescope is intended to do is quite beyond him, while the idea that people involved are career liars and cheats is much less demanding. It\'s also pretty implausible, but Fred hasn\'t got a lot of options.

Unlike Cursitor Doom, he doesn\'t actively demand implausible explanations, but he\'s not got enough sense left to differentiate between degrees of implausibility.

You don\'t know what you\'re talking about or how things are done.

You do like to make that claim. The implication is that you think you do, but you don\'t post anything that suggests that you have a clue. Claiming the unspecified people are \"career liars and cheats\" is a rather unspecific allegation, but that does seem to be as much as you can manage
The space telescope idea has been around a long time, and quite of lot of work on prospective systems was funded, even though there was no actual program.

The really hard stuff was already done by the time they committed to a new program.

These crummy overpriced boondoggles are all fantasy science.

Or so Fred likes to think. His idea of a \"fantasy science\" does seem to extend into fields that more sensible people see as real science, but Fred has edited out since his brains turned to mush.

They don\'t observe a single thing that is applicable to life on Earth..

Neither does Fred. He doesn\'t seem to have noticed that LIGO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO

hasn\'t either, but that this hasn\'t prevented it from being a a dramatic success.

Who gives a damn about gravitational waves?

People who are slightly less pig-ignorant that you are. There are quite a few of them

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Martin Brown

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On 11/01/2022 02:21, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 1:27:39 PM UTC-5, Jeroen Belleman
wrote:
If you combine red shift with Olber\'s paradox, you also end up with
a uniform thermal background at about the same temperature.

I can\'t say I appreciate Olber\'s paradox. Perhaps I\'ve not seen a
good explanation of it. I\'ve often wondered myself why the sky is
not more uniformly lit, but I reasoned that the more distant stars
would be much weaker in appearance and so not make the sky uniformly
bright. I had not considered that a red shift would also remove much
of the light from the visible spectrum.

There are a couple of other problems with it.

You need both an infinite universe and an infinite amount of time and/or
infinite speed of light for the light rays from every star to reach you.

Olbers \"paradox\" is why the milky way looks brighter than the rest of
the sky. In a dark sky you can also see the Andromeda galaxy as a fuzzy
blob and in a truly pristine sky Triangulum galaxy too. Binoculars will
help.

In those special directions most paths to your eye do intersect with the
photosphere of a star. Globular cluster cores in our own galaxy are an
even more extreme example where the stellar density is enormous.

47 Tuc is the canonical one for Antipodeans (as are LMC and SMC).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Tucanae

Northerners like me have to make do with M13 in Hercules.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_13#/media/File:Messier_13.jpg

A decent 10\" scope will resolve it to mostly stars. They have very
curious thermodynamics and will continue to condense to being every more
tightly packed in the centre by flinging the odd star off to infinity.

The problem is that the average distance between average stars is
enormous so it is only in very special directions where the stellar
density is high enough to see anything like Olber\'s prediction.

H2G2 got it right!
The thing about space is that it is *BIG*. Really **BIG**. You just
won\'t believe how vastly, hugely, mindbogglingly big it is.

I suppose were it not for the red shift, Olber\'s concept of constant
luminosity across the sky would make the entire sky the same
brightness as the sun? Then the planets and the moon would appear to
be holes in the brilliant sky. If fact, we would only know of the
sun by the way it blocks our view of the planetary darknesses.

Stars come is all shapes and sizes.

Physically big ones can be either on their last legs and red giants or
very massive incredibly young and short lived blue giants. The problem
for stars is that the heavier they are the hotter they get internally
and the faster they burn through all their fuel.

Once you go above the mass needed to actually ignite a star the heavier
it is the shorter its lifetime. Essentially it is a candle with ever
more internal burning zone the heavier that it gets.

It was summed up rather nicely by a lecture given by one of the world\'s
experts on binary cataclysmic variable stars where one has evolved to a
compact object and the other is expanding as it reaches old age.

His talk was titled \"Can a young blue giant find lasting happiness in
the arms of a degenerate white dwarf?\". Spoiler alert - no they can\'t.

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Martin Brown
 
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John Robertson

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On 2022/01/11 8:05 a.m., Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/01/2022 02:21, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 1:27:39 PM UTC-5, Jeroen Belleman
wrote:
If you combine red shift with Olber\'s paradox, you also end up with
a uniform thermal background at about the same temperature.

I can\'t say I appreciate Olber\'s paradox.  Perhaps I\'ve not seen a
good explanation of it.  I\'ve often wondered myself why the sky is
not more uniformly lit, but I reasoned that the more distant stars
would be much weaker in appearance and so not make the sky uniformly
bright.  I had not considered that a red shift would also remove much
of the light from the visible spectrum.

There are a couple of other problems with it.

You need both an infinite universe and an infinite amount of time and/or
infinite speed of light for the light rays from every star to reach you.

Olbers \"paradox\" is why the milky way looks brighter than the rest of
the sky. In a dark sky you can also see the Andromeda galaxy as a fuzzy
blob and in a truly pristine sky Triangulum galaxy too. Binoculars will
help.

In those special directions most paths to your eye do intersect with the
photosphere of a star. Globular cluster cores in our own galaxy are an
even more extreme example where the stellar density is enormous.

47 Tuc is the canonical one for Antipodeans (as are LMC and SMC).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Tucanae

Northerners like me have to make do with M13 in Hercules.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_13#/media/File:Messier_13.jpg

A decent 10\" scope will resolve it to mostly stars. They have very
curious thermodynamics and will continue to condense to being every more
tightly packed in the centre by flinging the odd star off to infinity.

The problem is that the average distance between average stars is
enormous so it is only in very special directions where the stellar
density is high enough to see anything like Olber\'s prediction.

H2G2 got it right!
The thing about space is that it is *BIG*. Really **BIG**. You just
won\'t believe how vastly, hugely, mindbogglingly big it is.

Bigger than Canada?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOM-TmZBzZo

(ducking)

John ;-#)#

 
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Fred Bloggs

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On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 8:35:23 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:12:20 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:34:30 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:08:45 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:41:41 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux....@decadence.org wrote:
This is commendable work...

Many nations involved.

Many many tons of gear down here and techs and engineers to make use
of it...

https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html

It\'s just government welfare to keep the crappy space agencies alive. Only a simple minded fool would take anything they say at face value.. They\'re just a bunch of career liars and cheats.

Fred does like to keep thing simple enough for him to understand. Working out what the James Webb telescope is intended to do is quite beyond him, while the idea that people involved are career liars and cheats is much less demanding. It\'s also pretty implausible, but Fred hasn\'t got a lot of options.

Unlike Cursitor Doom, he doesn\'t actively demand implausible explanations, but he\'s not got enough sense left to differentiate between degrees of implausibility.

You don\'t know what you\'re talking about or how things are done.

You do like to make that claim. The implication is that you think you do, but you don\'t post anything that suggests that you have a clue. Claiming the unspecified people are \"career liars and cheats\" is a rather unspecific allegation, but that does seem to be as much as you can manage
The space telescope idea has been around a long time, and quite of lot of work on prospective systems was funded, even though there was no actual program.

The really hard stuff was already done by the time they committed to a new program.

These crummy overpriced boondoggles are all fantasy science.

Or so Fred likes to think. His idea of a \"fantasy science\" does seem to extend into fields that more sensible people see as real science, but Fred has edited out since his brains turned to mush.

They don\'t observe a single thing that is applicable to life on Earth.

Neither does Fred. He doesn\'t seem to have noticed that LIGO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO

hasn\'t either, but that this hasn\'t prevented it from being a a dramatic success.

Who gives a damn about gravitational waves?
People who are slightly less pig-ignorant that you are. There are quite a few of them

--

Dunno what kind of moron would expect a pig to be well read. That and few other idiotic slurs seem to be your favorites. The thing is, I don\'t really see you rising above the level of decrepitude you abhor.

Then you and a lot of other sycophants conveniently ignore the huge expense of operating these boondoggles, and this despite the liars and cheaters misrepresenting how well they\'re doing, or not doing, and the limitless waste.. Some of these hellholes require a small freight train of resupply of components on a weekly basis. I\'m sure that\'s all legitimate.


> Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
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Jasen Betts

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On 2022-01-11, John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:
Jasen Betts wrote:

OBAMA TRASHING OUR SPACE PROGRAM AND PAYING OUR MORTAL ENEMY $82 MILLION
EACH TO TAKE OUR BEST AND BRIGHTEST TO THE SPACE STATION WAS PATRIOTIC
AND GOOD!!!

I will report to reeducation camp immediately, comrade.

That is not what I wrote. yoe need to get those delusions sorted out
first.



--
Jasen.
 
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Jeroen Belleman

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On 2022-01-11 17:05, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/01/2022 02:21, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 1:27:39 PM UTC-5, Jeroen Belleman
wrote:
If you combine red shift with Olber\'s paradox, you also end up
with a uniform thermal background at about the same temperature.

I can\'t say I appreciate Olber\'s paradox. Perhaps I\'ve not seen a
good explanation of it. I\'ve often wondered myself why the sky is
not more uniformly lit, but I reasoned that the more distant stars
would be much weaker in appearance and so not make the sky
uniformly bright. I had not considered that a red shift would also
remove much of the light from the visible spectrum.

There are a couple of other problems with it.

You need both an infinite universe and an infinite amount of time
and/or infinite speed of light for the light rays from every star to
reach you.

Let\'s face it, the universe is mind boggling either way. I don\'t
see why an infinite universe would be any more so than one that
sprung from nothing 13.7 Gyr ago. It\'s not like the BB idea is
without its problems, now is it?

Jeroen Belleman
 
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Anthony William Sloman

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On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 5:17:32 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 8:35:23 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:12:20 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:34:30 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:08:45 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:41:41 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux....@decadence.org wrote:
This is commendable work...

Many nations involved.

Many many tons of gear down here and techs and engineers to make use
of it...

https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html

It\'s just government welfare to keep the crappy space agencies alive. Only a simple minded fool would take anything they say at face value. They\'re just a bunch of career liars and cheats.

Fred does like to keep thing simple enough for him to understand. Working out what the James Webb telescope is intended to do is quite beyond him, while the idea that people involved are career liars and cheats is much less demanding. It\'s also pretty implausible, but Fred hasn\'t got a lot of options.

Unlike Cursitor Doom, he doesn\'t actively demand implausible explanations, but he\'s not got enough sense left to differentiate between degrees of implausibility.

You don\'t know what you\'re talking about or how things are done.

You do like to make that claim. The implication is that you think you do, but you don\'t post anything that suggests that you have a clue. Claiming the unspecified people are \"career liars and cheats\" is a rather unspecific allegation, but that does seem to be as much as you can manage
The space telescope idea has been around a long time, and quite of lot of work on prospective systems was funded, even though there was no actual program.

The really hard stuff was already done by the time they committed to a new program.

These crummy overpriced boondoggles are all fantasy science.

Or so Fred likes to think. His idea of a \"fantasy science\" does seem to extend into fields that more sensible people see as real science, but Fred has edited out since his brains turned to mush.

They don\'t observe a single thing that is applicable to life on Earth.

Neither does Fred. He doesn\'t seem to have noticed that LIGO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO

hasn\'t either, but that this hasn\'t prevented it from being a a dramatic success.

Who gives a damn about gravitational waves?
People who are slightly less pig-ignorant that you are. There are quite a few of them

Dunno what kind of moron would expect a pig to be well read.

That is the point of the insult.

> That and few other idiotic slurs seem to be your favorites. The thing is, I don\'t really see you rising above the level of decrepitude you abhor.

You can\'t. You don\'t know enough to distinguish shit from Shinola, so it all looks decrepit to you.

> Then you and a lot of other sycophants conveniently ignore the huge expense of operating these boondoggles, and this despite the liars and cheaters misrepresenting how well they\'re doing, or not doing, and the limitless waste.

Since you aren\'t equipped to notice when they do deliver what they promise, you do like to assume that everything you can\'t understand is a pointless boondoggle.

If you went to the trouble of identifying something specific, we\'d have to take you more seriously, but you aren\'t up anything beyond vague generalisations.

> Some of these hellholes require a small freight train of resupply of components on a weekly basis. I\'m sure that\'s all legitimate.

Specific example?

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