Mass Starvation Looming On The Horizon...

Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in
news:tcjibf$14rt$1@gioia.aioe.org:

On 2022-08-05 15:02, marty wrote:
On 5/8/22 21:42, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Misogyny is hatred for women. We need to come up with a term
for
idiots like ol\' Jan Pan here for his retarded hatred of the USA.

Sepogyny!


I don\'t know where the \'sepo\' comes from, but the \'gyny\' refers to
women, so this makes no sense.

The \'miso\' is \'hatred\' so it should be more like \'miso-something\',
where the something is some greek-derived term referring
unequivocally to the USA.

Jeroen Belleman

Ante Amicus Americanus

Non Friend to Americans
 
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:25:46 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 12:12:47 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
First food prices start to rise, then become unaffordable for most, then finally food is just plain inaccessible- shelves are all empty. It should be obvious how this is going to play out.

Threat of ‘heatflation’ looms large as climate change shrinks farm and seafood output, experts say

https://www.scmp.com/business/article/3186994/threat-heatflation-looms-large-climate-change-shrinks-farm-and-seafood

Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. There will be no weathering this one.
The US could eat a lot less meat. China has more of a problem.

--
SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

What, SNIPPERMAN, did you forget the Soylent Green solution?
 
GnatTurd <flyscum2day@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:f0622f9f-d758-45af-8b62-701af8854f1dn@googlegroups.com:

> did you forget the Soylent Green solution?

Retarded fuck like you. Goddamned shame \"The Stuff\" isn\'t real,
because you would surely be addicted to it and would blow up REAL GOOD.
 
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 12:53:06 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:25:46 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 12:12:47 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
First food prices start to rise, then become unaffordable for most, then finally food is just plain inaccessible- shelves are all empty. It should be obvious how this is going to play out.

Threat of ‘heatflation’ looms large as climate change shrinks farm and seafood output, experts say

https://www.scmp.com/business/article/3186994/threat-heatflation-looms-large-climate-change-shrinks-farm-and-seafood

Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. There will be no weathering this one.
The US could eat a lot less meat. China has more of a problem.

What, Sloman, did you forget the Soylent Green solution?

I read the story that it originally came from, the science fiction novel Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison, back when it first came out in 1966.. Harry Harrison wasn\'t up to much. As a solution, cannibalism is nonsense, but presumably the kind of nonsense that appeals to you. You would be more useful feeding other people that you are at the moment, but the risk that whatever it is that has wrecked your brain might be passed on to the people who ate your remains, means that it it isn\'t a solution that anybody sane would recommend. The fact that you like it proves my point.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2022-08-05 14:50, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 05:48:50 -0000 (UTC), Jack Webb
myopinion@least.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 19:42:44 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:ai5oeh9bf3otvhiptomj91dapkc6c1cfa3@4ax.com:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 18:35:22 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Bob Engelhardt <BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> wrote in
news:ahPGK.558952$vAW9.367489@fx10.iad:

On 8/1/2022 10:12 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
[...]
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. [...]

It\'s 177th out of 234 countries in population density -
\"overpopulated\" isn\'t the problem.  Grossly over-indulged is the
problem.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-d
en sity


  And also definitely over cult dopeshit indulged, sports bar
dumbshit indulged and militant idiot indulged.

  We don\'t need bear spray and tasers to deal with these idiotds.
  We
need to hit them with a curare dart so they can then lay there
conscious but unable to move, even as they get added to the
alligator pit odr get made into bait for the feral hog trap pits.

  The way they act, it is exactly what they deserve.

Just because some kid is a shallow airhead who orders bad beer is
no reason to kill them.

  Bad beer, no.  But a choice to IGNORE due diligence and VET a
proven lifelong criuminal and then believe his petty lies and
pathetic insults and then jump on his ill informed Bad Hayride and
vote for the 100% criminal, 100% buffoon is about as stupid as it
gets.  Alligator food or worm food is the destiny they deserve.
Especially if they are still riding the dumbfuck\'s criminal
coattails.

Once you kill off the dumbest 25% of the population, who would be left
for you to feel superior to?

All the illegals who are replacing them. Tens of thousands per month.
One can imagine some logic in reducing our population given high
technology.
But that\'s not what\'s happening. Our lower-level population is being
replaced.

Immigrants aren\'t necessarily dumb. There is selective diffusion to
immigration. The most adventurous and the smartest and the bravest and
the most restless (and the most criminal) tend to emigrate. The upside
of that is the many great foreign-born scientists and engineers and
business types that we get. The US gets so many Nobel prizes partly
because the best scientists tend to emigrate here.

The US gets many Nobel prizes because it\'s big, not because it has
a disproportionate number of smart scientists.

It has an unsustainable number of universities, mainly. The rest of the
Americas should actually do better than the US, outside of immigration
patterns.

Which has a lot to do with the number of universities.

Why the rest of the Americas doesn\'t beat us all is one my great
unanswered questions.

Normalized to the
total population, you\'re not exceptional at all.

Nope! We\'re the most ordinary of people.

Granted, you\'re doing better than the EU.

WWII and the post war periods were not kind to the EU. The EU could do
better if the embarrassment could subside. I mean really steer into
the phenomena that we all know now and accept that humans can be that
way, and that allowing people of actual conscience some space is the
only way to prevent it.

America is a strange place, one where we tried being Deliberate about
everything rather than pointing backwards to the path we used to get
here. It breeds a different sort of hilarity.

I think that in a lot of ways, the Canadians have us all beat. At a cost
to them.

Jeroen Belleman

--
Les Cargill
 
rbowman wrote:
On 08/02/2022 05:35 AM, Don Y wrote:
On 8/1/2022 7:39 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. There will be no
weathering this one.

Gotta feel sorry for all those red state farmers who\'ll likely be losing
the
family farm in the years to come.  No, it can\'t possibly be *climate* to
blame!
They\'re just bad farmers, right?  :

Not many of those left unless you consider Cargill to be a family.

It can be. I was born to the wrong sort of Cargill, and until
recently ( the Reaper has had his toll ) it was... familial.

I can claim Henson Cargill as a distant kinsman. See also \"Skip a Rope\"
( song ) .

Since your brought it up - in the hope that you find as much use for
this as I have - here is a map-UI-based database for farm subsidies.

It\'s basically a picture of who does farming in the United States.

When you drill down, the recipient is invariably \"<x> Family Trust\"
where <x> owns trucking, small industry and all manner of things.

https://farm.ewg.org/

--
Les Cargill
 
rbowman wrote:
On 08/02/2022 10:21 PM, corvid wrote:
On 8/2/22 13:18, Fred Bloggs wrote:
https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/01/23/look-americas-family-farms


\"Our research found that family farms remain a key part of U.S.
agriculture, making up 98% of all farms and providing 88% of
production. Most farms are small family farms, and they operate
almost half of U.S. farm land, while generating 21% of production.
Midsize and large-scale family farms account for about 66% of
production; and non-family farms represent the remaining 2.1% of
farms and 12% of production.\"
That tells you right there the big farms are way more productive than
the mom and pop farms. One reason is the caliber of farm management.
Another thing they don\'t mention is that a lot of these small farms
can\'t support themselves with the farm so at least one of the owners
works a full time job elsewhere in addition to their farming- that
sort of makes the farming a part time thing. Another thing they\'re
not mentioning is there\'s a lot fraud in farming. There are a lot of
no goods who register as agricultural for purposes of tax breaks,
subsidies, and getting paid NOT TO GROW anything. Then there are a
bunch of government subsidized crop insurance scams going. Nothing
beats insuring a bottom land crop near a river and having a flood
wipe it all out. You get paid on some per acre yield of the crop
without having to lift a finger.

USDA does mention part of that.

https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2010/05/18/small-farms-big-differences

\"In fact, all of the growth occurred among farms under $1,000 in sales.
These are classified as farms so long as they have enough land or
livestock to generate $1000, whether or not actual sales reach that
level. Most of these operations are better described as rural
residences; the households on these farms – and on many other small
farms – rely heavily on off-farm income.\"

As Earl Butz said during the Johnson administration, \'Get big or get
out.\' He also had the insight that cheap food is very important to keep
the natives from getting restless.

I\'d say he finally eliminated food insecurity. We used to get oranges at
Christmas - like \"WTF? They got oranges everywhere now\" but it was the
bony hand of the Depression offering the orange, from when people went
hungry.

My folks were Silents and the nostalgia for all that privation was
startling and palpable. We didn\'t know what an orange meant.

They did.

Too bad about that \'loose shoes,
tight pussy, and a warm place to shit\' crack that got him fired.

Absolutely hilarious. Not everybody should try their hand at songwriting
and that .. might not have been the place to start.

> Too much candor can be fatal to a politician.

Yeah, well. People push the \"lose\" button all the time. Re Ron White:
\"I had the right to remain silent, but I did not have the ability.\"

--
Les Cargill
 
Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:25:46 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 12:12:47 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
First food prices start to rise, then become unaffordable for most, then finally food is just plain inaccessible- shelves are all empty. It should be obvious how this is going to play out.

Threat of ‘heatflation’ looms large as climate change shrinks farm and seafood output, experts say

https://www.scmp.com/business/article/3186994/threat-heatflation-looms-large-climate-change-shrinks-farm-and-seafood

Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. There will be no weathering this one.
The US could eat a lot less meat. China has more of a problem.

--
SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

What, SNIPPERMAN, did you forget the Soylent Green solution?

You mean SOY LENTil as intended in the book or the fillum which
... expanded on it?

My favorite riff on that is from \"Waterworld\" - \"eat recycled food\".


Think that one through.

--
Les Crgill
 
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 08:25:27 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
snip
Some day people will live hundreds of years. Our babies are young, so
we have it in our cells to be young too.

Our cells have timers that spell our end. They\'re called \"telomeres\",
une use of \"telos\" to mean \"time\".

If you have long telomeres, the cancer will get you. If you have short
telomeres, your DNA wears out and critical organs stop maintaining
themselves.

We\'re sold out by the very thing that makes us who are.

--
Les Cargill
 
John Larkin wrote:
<nip>


I think more people are liking the idea of moving to a
quieter, greener place.

Gene Autry wasn\'t kidding with \"Don\'t Fence Me In\"

--
Les Cargill
 
Jan Panteltje wrote:
<snip>
Also a lot more violence and burglary in the cities
caught one red-handed in my apartment.
And parking places... And gardens... more here,

My eldest caught someone vandalizing her Ring camera, which
was caught completely on \"tape\". It\'s the last in a long saga.


They actually put the guy in jail. We\'ll see what happens after.

--
Les Cargill
 
On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:16:40 PM UTC+10, Les Cargill wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 08:25:27 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
snip
Some day people will live hundreds of years. Our babies are young, so
we have it in our cells to be young too.


Our cells have timers that spell our end. They\'re called \"telomeres\",
A use of \"telos\" to mean \"time\".

If you have long telomeres, the cancer will get you. If you have short
telomeres, your DNA wears out and critical organs stop maintaining
themselves.

We\'re sold out by the very thing that makes us who are.

We rely on an evolved mechanism. Evolution cares about the survival of the species and depends on you living long enough to reproduce - and in our case to look after our kids until they are old enough to look after themselves..

We aren\'t \"sold out\" by this. There\'s nothing to stop us tinkering with the mechanism and modifying it to let us live longer. The obvious modification is to put some error detection and error correction into the DNA replication system. It wouldn\'t make us live forever, but it could increase the life-span quite a bit.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 8/12/2022 7:20 PM, Les Cargill wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
snip

Also a lot more violence and burglary in the cities
caught one red-handed in my apartment.
And parking places... And gardens... more here,



My eldest caught someone vandalizing her Ring camera, which
was caught completely on \"tape\". It\'s the last in a long saga.

They actually put the guy in jail. We\'ll see what happens after.

Don\'t expect much.

One of the nonprofits that I work with is often vandalized/burgled.
They have extensive video surveillance in place.

In one incident, you could see the perps actually looking up INTO
one of the cameras (idiots didn\'t think about wearing facemasks??).
And, climbing in and out of rooms through the door-windows they\'d
shattered (it never occurred to them to UNLOCK THE DOORS after
breaking the windows)

All of this video was delivered to the police -- who apprehended
the \"suspects\".

NO ONE spent a night in jail!

In some cases, theft is regarded as the victim\'s \"problem\" to
resolve. Police will make \"reports\" but little else.
 
On 08/12/2022 08:00 PM, Les Cargill wrote:
rbowman wrote:
On 08/02/2022 05:35 AM, Don Y wrote:
On 8/1/2022 7:39 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. There will be no
weathering this one.

Gotta feel sorry for all those red state farmers who\'ll likely be losing
the
family farm in the years to come. No, it can\'t possibly be *climate* to
blame!
They\'re just bad farmers, right? :

Not many of those left unless you consider Cargill to be a family.

It can be. I was born to the wrong sort of Cargill, and until
recently ( the Reaper has had his toll ) it was... familial.

I can claim Henson Cargill as a distant kinsman. See also \"Skip a Rope\"
( song ) .

Since your brought it up - in the hope that you find as much use for
this as I have - here is a map-UI-based database for farm subsidies.

It\'s basically a picture of who does farming in the United States.

When you drill down, the recipient is invariably \"<x> Family Trust\"
where <x> owns trucking, small industry and all manner of things.

https://farm.ewg.org/

I noticed an interesting pattern in this state. Stockman Bank,
Independence Bank, and Northwest Farm Credit Services are in the top 7.
Even that\'s misleading since the Montana DNRC Trust Land Management is
the leader but hasn\'t gotten any money since 2012. The DRNC in general
took up the slack since 2012 and is 6th.

The banks grabbed all the money since 2019, not a dime before.

\"EWG has identified this recipient as a bank or lending institution that
received the payment because the payment applicant had a loan requiring
any subsidy payments go to the lender first. In 2019, the information
provided to EWG by USDA began to include the entity that received the
payment, rather than the person or entity that applied for it, which was
previously provided. This move to shield subsidy recipients from
disclosure enables USDA to further evade taxpayer accountability. Six
percent of subsidy dollars went to banks, lending institutions, or the
Farm Service Agency.”


Neat. The other two in the top seven are S Farms and Patriot Farms. Good
luck drilling down into them although Patriot seems to be in the real
estate business too.

Ted Turner has three \'ranches\' here. I wonder how much he collects.
 
On 08/12/2022 08:09 PM, Les Cargill wrote:
rbowman wrote:
On 08/02/2022 10:21 PM, corvid wrote:
On 8/2/22 13:18, Fred Bloggs wrote:
https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/01/23/look-americas-family-farms



\"Our research found that family farms remain a key part of U.S.
agriculture, making up 98% of all farms and providing 88% of
production. Most farms are small family farms, and they operate
almost half of U.S. farm land, while generating 21% of production.
Midsize and large-scale family farms account for about 66% of
production; and non-family farms represent the remaining 2.1% of
farms and 12% of production.\"
That tells you right there the big farms are way more productive than
the mom and pop farms. One reason is the caliber of farm management.
Another thing they don\'t mention is that a lot of these small farms
can\'t support themselves with the farm so at least one of the owners
works a full time job elsewhere in addition to their farming- that
sort of makes the farming a part time thing. Another thing they\'re
not mentioning is there\'s a lot fraud in farming. There are a lot of
no goods who register as agricultural for purposes of tax breaks,
subsidies, and getting paid NOT TO GROW anything. Then there are a
bunch of government subsidized crop insurance scams going. Nothing
beats insuring a bottom land crop near a river and having a flood
wipe it all out. You get paid on some per acre yield of the crop
without having to lift a finger.

USDA does mention part of that.

https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2010/05/18/small-farms-big-differences

\"In fact, all of the growth occurred among farms under $1,000 in sales.
These are classified as farms so long as they have enough land or
livestock to generate $1000, whether or not actual sales reach that
level. Most of these operations are better described as rural
residences; the households on these farms – and on many other small
farms – rely heavily on off-farm income.\"

As Earl Butz said during the Johnson administration, \'Get big or get
out.\' He also had the insight that cheap food is very important to
keep the natives from getting restless.

I\'d say he finally eliminated food insecurity. We used to get oranges at
Christmas - like \"WTF? They got oranges everywhere now\" but it was the
bony hand of the Depression offering the orange, from when people went
hungry.

Yeah, my father was born in 1899 and talked about getting an orange for
Christmas. My mother was the same vintage. When she was a kid her
younger brother died of diphtheria. Not uncommon but just prior to
taking sick he\'d eaten a banana, which was exotic. It took her a long
time to break the association of bananas and death.
 
On 08/12/2022 08:18 PM, Les Cargill wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
nip


I think more people are liking the idea of moving to a
quieter, greener place.


Gene Autry wasn\'t kidding with \"Don\'t Fence Me In\"

Quibble -- Roy Rogers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkrQMfL9MKg

\"Turn me loose, set me free
Somewhere in the middle of Montana
And give me all I\'ve got comin\' to me
And keep your retirement
And your so called social security
Big city, turn me loose and set me free\"


Damn straight.
 
On 08/12/2022 08:41 PM, Don Y wrote:
In one incident, you could see the perps actually looking up INTO
one of the cameras (idiots didn\'t think about wearing facemasks??).
And, climbing in and out of rooms through the door-windows they\'d
shattered (it never occurred to them to UNLOCK THE DOORS after
breaking the windows)

In a long and active life I\'ve known some petty criminals. Most aren\'t
too bright. As they describe their past and future plans it\'s like
talking to Wile E. Coyote.

I didn\'t know the perp but I had an old pickup that I left unlocked in
the company parking lot. It had a cassette player in a bracket under the
dash. There was an obvious tab which you pushed down and the player slid
out of the bracket. With the player removed it was easy to unscrew the
bracket mounts. They missed the part about sliding out the player and
somehow got the screws out of one side of the bracket before deciding it
was too much work and left the whole thing dangling from the dash.

I seldom drove the truck since I could walk to work, but I went out one
day to go someplace. It was raining so I turned the wipers on only to
realize there weren\'t any. At least that crook was successful in
stealing two wiper arms.
 
On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 10:10:44 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
wrote:

On 08/12/2022 08:41 PM, Don Y wrote:
In one incident, you could see the perps actually looking up INTO
one of the cameras (idiots didn\'t think about wearing facemasks??).
And, climbing in and out of rooms through the door-windows they\'d
shattered (it never occurred to them to UNLOCK THE DOORS after
breaking the windows)

In a long and active life I\'ve known some petty criminals. Most aren\'t
too bright. As they describe their past and future plans it\'s like
talking to Wile E. Coyote.

I didn\'t know the perp but I had an old pickup that I left unlocked in
the company parking lot. It had a cassette player in a bracket under the
dash. There was an obvious tab which you pushed down and the player slid
out of the bracket. With the player removed it was easy to unscrew the
bracket mounts. They missed the part about sliding out the player and
somehow got the screws out of one side of the bracket before deciding it
was too much work and left the whole thing dangling from the dash.

I seldom drove the truck since I could walk to work, but I went out one
day to go someplace. It was raining so I turned the wipers on only to
realize there weren\'t any. At least that crook was successful in
stealing two wiper arms.

When I was in the USSR, everyone removed their wiper blades unless it
was actually raining or showing, because if they left them they\'d be
stolen.

On a construction site, all sorts of stuff was stolen. \"Nobody owns
it.\" The construction guys mostly played cards all day.

Maybe things are better now, but I doubt that. Per-capita GDP is still
anout 1/6 of europe\'s.

Communism sure made people un-civil and un-productive.
 
On 8/13/2022 9:10 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 08:41 PM, Don Y wrote:
In one incident, you could see the perps actually looking up INTO
one of the cameras (idiots didn\'t think about wearing facemasks??).
And, climbing in and out of rooms through the door-windows they\'d
shattered (it never occurred to them to UNLOCK THE DOORS after
breaking the windows)

In a long and active life I\'ve known some petty criminals. Most aren\'t too
bright. As they describe their past and future plans it\'s like talking to Wile
E. Coyote.

I didn\'t know the perp but I had an old pickup that I left unlocked in the
company parking lot. It had a cassette player in a bracket under the dash.
There was an obvious tab which you pushed down and the player slid out of the
bracket. With the player removed it was easy to unscrew the bracket mounts.
They missed the part about sliding out the player and somehow got the screws
out of one side of the bracket before deciding it was too much work and left
the whole thing dangling from the dash.

\"not thinking it through\".

In the example I cited, the (locked) door to each room had a glass window,
reinforced with a wire grid (I guess to make it more like \"safety glass\").
They would break the window. Then, reach in and lift UP on the \"door lever\"
(think about it, not a round *knob*). This, of course, was the wrong way
to actuate the door release -- press *down*.

Discovering that the door was still \"locked\" (on the inside, too?? c\'mon...
think!), they would climb in and out through the window as they removed items
from the rooms.

We found it hilarious to watch as even the pet *cat* that frequented the
building had figured out that it could open a *closed* door by jumping
up and throwing its weight on the door lever.

Sad when a *cat* is smarter than the thieves!

I seldom drove the truck since I could walk to work, but I went out one day to
go someplace. It was raining so I turned the wipers on only to realize there
weren\'t any. At least that crook was successful in stealing two wiper arms.
 
rbowman wrote:
On 08/12/2022 08:00 PM, Les Cargill wrote:
rbowman wrote:
On 08/02/2022 05:35 AM, Don Y wrote:
On 8/1/2022 7:39 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. There will be no
weathering this one.

Gotta feel sorry for all those red state farmers who\'ll likely be
losing
the
family farm in the years to come.  No, it can\'t possibly be
*climate* to
blame!
They\'re just bad farmers, right?  :

Not many of those left unless you consider Cargill to be a family.

It can be. I was born to the wrong sort of Cargill, and until
recently ( the  Reaper has had his toll ) it was... familial.

I can claim Henson Cargill as a distant kinsman. See also \"Skip a Rope\"
( song ) .

Since your brought it up - in the hope that you find as much use for
this as I have - here is a map-UI-based database for farm subsidies.

It\'s basically a picture of who does farming in the United States.

When you drill down, the recipient is invariably \"<x> Family Trust\"
where <x> owns trucking, small industry and all manner of things.

https://farm.ewg.org/

I noticed an interesting pattern in this state. Stockman Bank,
Independence Bank, and Northwest Farm Credit Services are in the top 7.
Even that\'s misleading since the Montana DNRC Trust Land Management is
the leader but hasn\'t gotten any money since 2012. The DRNC in general
took up the slack since 2012 and is 6th.

The banks grabbed all the money since 2019, not a dime before.

Huh. Y\'know, bankers being ... well, bankers through omninous
\"stockman\'s associations\" is kinda a cliche in Westerns set in Montana.
It\'s like Sam Waterson\'s character in \"Heaven\'s Gate\".

\"EWG has identified this recipient as a bank or lending institution that
received the payment because the payment applicant had a loan requiring
any subsidy payments go to the lender first. In 2019, the information
provided to EWG by USDA began to include the entity that received the
payment, rather than the person or entity that applied for it, which was
previously provided. This move to shield subsidy recipients from
disclosure enables USDA to further evade taxpayer accountability.

Whut? \"enables USDA to further evade taxpayer accountability.\"

Lol!

Six
percent of subsidy dollars went to banks, lending institutions, or the
Farm Service Agency.”


Neat. The other two in the top seven are S Farms and Patriot Farms. Good
luck drilling down into them although Patriot seems to be in the real
estate business too.

Anything named \"Patriot\" anything is gonna be deep down the private
equity rabbit hole.

Ted Turner has three \'ranches\' here. I wonder how much he collects.

I think he kind of invented buying a ranch in Montana as a marque of
status.

--
Les Cargill
 

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