Map showing various names for creeks/streams/runs in the USA...

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Brent Locher

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Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean) and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have \"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png
 
On 12/10/20 7:50 AM, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean) and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have \"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png

A slough is more like a very large ditch than like a stream. You find
them in river deltas especially.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
(from Vancouver BC, where we know about deltas)

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On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 2:03:23 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 12/10/20 7:50 AM, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean) and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have \"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames..png

A slough is more like a very large ditch than like a stream. You find
them in river deltas especially.

You need to be careful of using the term \"ditch\". In North Carolina I kayaked in \"ditches\" that we called canals. One was the access to the Great Dismal Swamp in Lake Drummond. In looking it up just now, a web page makes the point that Lake Drummond (miles across) is a lake on top of a hill as it is the highest point in the Great Dismal Swamp! Now that I think about it we did have to cross a lock to enter the lake.

The first \"ditch\" we paddled was the Intracoastal Waterway with large power boats. So not what anyone would normally call a ditch.

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On 10/12/2020 12:50, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean) and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have \"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slough_of_Despond

Also, Slough is a town in the UK, at one time with the the largest
industrial estate in Europe. It was the setting for the original UK
version of the TV comedy \'The Office\' and was derided by John Betjeman
in his eponymous poem...

https://www.oatridge.co.uk/poems/j/john-betjeman-slough.php

I went there once, but it was closed.

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Clive
 
On 10/12/2020 12:50, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean) and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have \"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slough_of_Despond

Also, Slough is a town in the UK, at one time with the the largest
industrial estate in Europe. It was the setting for the original UK
version of the TV comedy \'The Office\' and was derided by John Betjeman
in his eponymous poem...

https://www.oatridge.co.uk/poems/j/john-betjeman-slough.php

I went there once, but it was closed.

--
Cheers
Clive
 
On 10/12/20 20:55, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 10/12/2020 12:50, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean) and
saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\".  I had never heard that name and
started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows all the
various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map.  The
unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\".  We also have
\"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slough_of_Despond

Also, Slough is a town in the UK, at one time with the the largest industrial
estate in Europe.  It was the setting for the original UK version of the TV
comedy \'The Office\' and was derided by John Betjeman in his eponymous poem...

https://www.oatridge.co.uk/poems/j/john-betjeman-slough.php

I went there once, but it was closed.

You had a narrow escape.
 
On 12/10/2020 5:50 AM, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean)
and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that
name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows
all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The
unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have
\"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png

Don\'t forget \"kills\" and \"burns\".

Suddenly, the idea of \"50\" words for \"snow\" doesn\'t seem so outrageous!
 
On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 12:38:00 PM UTC-5, Don Y wrote:
On 12/10/2020 5:50 AM, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean)
and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that
name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows
all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The
unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have
\"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png
Don\'t forget \"kills\" and \"burns\".

The map does show \"kill\". It is pretty contained to NY state just north of NYC to Albany. It does not look to extend into MA or CT.....pretty much a NY thing.

> Suddenly, the idea of \"50\" words for \"snow\" doesn\'t seem so outrageous!
 
On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 12:38:00 PM UTC-5, Don Y wrote:
On 12/10/2020 5:50 AM, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean)
and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that
name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows
all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The
unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have
\"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png
Don\'t forget \"kills\" and \"burns\".

Maybe that is what Catskills is about?
> Suddenly, the idea of \"50\" words for \"snow\" doesn\'t seem so outrageous!
 
On 12/11/2020 3:50 PM, Brent Locher wrote:
On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 12:38:00 PM UTC-5, Don Y wrote:
On 12/10/2020 5:50 AM, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean)
and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that
name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows
all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The
unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have
\"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png
Don\'t forget \"kills\" and \"burns\".


Maybe that is what Catskills is about?
Suddenly, the idea of \"50\" words for \"snow\" doesn\'t seem so outrageous!

\"kil\" is \"creek\" in Dutch:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuylkill_River>
 
On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 5:03:13 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 12/11/2020 3:50 PM, Brent Locher wrote:
On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 12:38:00 PM UTC-5, Don Y wrote:
On 12/10/2020 5:50 AM, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean)
and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that
name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows
all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The
unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have
\"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png
Don\'t forget \"kills\" and \"burns\".


Maybe that is what Catskills is about?
Suddenly, the idea of \"50\" words for \"snow\" doesn\'t seem so outrageous!
\"kil\" is \"creek\" in Dutch:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuylkill_River

It was originally New Amsterdam after all.

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On 12/11/2020 1:49 PM, Brent Locher wrote:

Don\'t forget \"kills\" and \"burns\".

The map does show \"kill\". It is pretty contained to NY state just north of
NYC to Albany. It does not look to extend into MA or CT.....pretty much a
NY thing.

You have to look at how each region was settled in order to understand
why certain language features were adopted (locally). Amusingly, a good deal
of US language is closer to its historic origins than *those* origins have
remained.

In school (folks from around the country/world), it was common to explore
regional/country language differences. E.g., most folks were clueless
when I\'d refer to a \"packie\". And, of course \"soda\" vs. \"pop\" vs. \"tonic\"
vs. \"seltzer\". Or, \"milk shake\" vs. \"frappe\".
 
On 12/10/2020 6:50 AM, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean) and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have \"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png

And then there are bayous.
 
On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 4:50:58 AM UTC-8, Brent Locher wrote:
Off topic....

I was driving through Washington state a couple years ago (near the ocean) and saw signs for muddy inlets called \"sloughs\". I had never heard that name and started looking into it and then I came across this map that shows all the various names for (mostly small) waterways in the USA.

Creek is kind of the assumed name and not really shown on the map. The unusual name I am familiar with living in MI and OH is \"run\". We also have \"drains\" that are not mentioned on this map

https://derekwatkins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/dwatkins_usstreamnames.png

A slough is stagnant water whereas a creek is moving:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slough_(hydrology)
 

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