Larkin Has Run Out of Excuses...

On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 11:07:33 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote:
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 1:23:33 PM UTC-4, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 16.07.20 um 15:44 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:55:32 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de
wrote:

Am 16.07.20 um 09:20 schrieb Bill Sloman:

James Arthur hasn\'t noticed that when people start dying of Covid-19, other people start practice social distancing of their own accord. Note the Swedish example.

It still kills a lot of people, and even the Swedes aren\'t anywhere near herd immunity yet.

In fact, Sweden was just yesterday removed from the list of dangerous
countries by our (German) government. That has consequences for
insurances etc if you insist to go there.

And herd immunity is a silly idea. It does not even work in Bad Ischgl,
the Austrian skiing resort where they sport 42% seropositives, which
is probably the world record, much higher than Sweden.

And herd immunity does not mean that you won\'t get it if you are
in the herd.

It means that if you get it and survive, you are out of the herd.

No, it means that you are now a badly needed part of the herd by
diluting the danger for the rest.

Some people seem to have serious problems helping others.

I was hoping Larkin would take his own advice and work on his personal herd immunity. Unfortunately the evidence is mounting that there will be no lasting immunity and so no herd immunity ever.

As with many situations this is a Darwinian event. Part of the trouble is those who choose to ignore the danger put the rest of us at risk by continuing the propagation of the disease.

I know people in this group saw the video about the three general approaches to dealing with the disease. Ignore it and lots of people die. There is not so much impact on the economy and the disease reduces at some point.

Fight the disease with isolation, etc. to the detriment of the economy and save lives. Again, the disease does not last forever and at some point everything can reopen.

But the middle of the road approach, where we try to \"balance\" fighting the disease with keeping the economy open is insane because it continues the disease indefinitely resulting in the most morbidity and mortality as well as the worst impact to the economy.

Dealing with this disease halfheartedly is worse than doing nothing at all. Doing nothing at all is still much worse than mounting an effect attack on the disease and saving lives as well as the economy.

I don\'t get why this is not well understood. I guess Kim was right.

--

Rick C.

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And you are a fucking SHRILL - posting that shit about 1,000 miles of \"free\" supercharging to LINE YOUR FUCKING POCKETS!!!!!!
 
On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 12:58:30 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 11:07:33 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote:
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 1:23:33 PM UTC-4, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
Am 16.07.20 um 15:44 schrieb jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:55:32 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk...@arcor.de
wrote:

Am 16.07.20 um 09:20 schrieb Bill Sloman:

<snip>
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-+-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

And you are a fucking SHRILL - posting that shit about 1,000 miles of \"free\" supercharging to LINE YOUR FUCKING POCKETS!!!!!!

The word is \"shill\". Shrill is what you are. And it would also line the pocket of anybody who took advantage of it, so it\'s a win-win situation, but that\'s a more complicated idea than Flyguy can get his head around.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
In article <d5srgftvmbib1bj3cpo4upf2t7m3l52mjb@4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:28:53 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 10:53:16 AM UTC+10, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:41:22 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 13:13:52 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 11:23:21 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

snip

Assuming that the main mode of transmission is by water droplet
aerosols, what is the minimum concentration of virus carrying water
droplets necessary to create an active infection?

What I\'ve seen and remembered was that it took about 1500 virus
particles to give you an even chance of getting infected.

If I\'m reading that correctly, if you have a 50% chance of infection
from 1500 particles, there should be a 100% chance with twice the
number of 3000 particles. Also, virus \"particles\" seems to include

Shooting from the hip, are we? Obviously the chance with 3000 particles
is then 75%, under this premise of independance.

<SNIP>
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
--
This is the first day of the end of your life.
It may not kill you, but it does make your weaker.
If you can\'t beat them, too bad.
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In article <d5srgftvmbib1bj3cpo4upf2t7m3l52mjb@4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:28:53 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 10:53:16 AM UTC+10, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:41:22 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 13:13:52 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 11:23:21 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

snip

Assuming that the main mode of transmission is by water droplet
aerosols, what is the minimum concentration of virus carrying water
droplets necessary to create an active infection?

What I\'ve seen and remembered was that it took about 1500 virus
particles to give you an even chance of getting infected.

If I\'m reading that correctly, if you have a 50% chance of infection
from 1500 particles, there should be a 100% chance with twice the
number of 3000 particles. Also, virus \"particles\" seems to include

Shooting from the hip, are we? Obviously the chance with 3000 particles
is then 75%, under this premise of independance.

<SNIP>
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
--
This is the first day of the end of your life.
It may not kill you, but it does make your weaker.
If you can\'t beat them, too bad.
albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst
 

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