Is there a newsgrop for Mozilla Thunderbird?...

[Joerg]

Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:07:13 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
wrote:

Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Rebuilding the Global Database
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/rebuilding-global-database>

If that doesn\'t work, exit Thunderbird. find the INBOX.msf file.
That\'s the index to the inbox. Erase the msf file. Start Thunderbird
and it will automagically build a new index. You might have to erase
and rebuild other msf index files.

Go to -> Tools -> Activity Manager
You can watch that Thunderbird is doing.

There are various scripts available for fixing Thunderbird, but all
the one\'s I could find are for Windoze, not Linux.

--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Joerg]

On 9/11/20 3:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:07:13 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Rebuilding the Global Database
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/rebuilding-global-database

If that doesn\'t work, exit Thunderbird. find the INBOX.msf file.
That\'s the index to the inbox. Erase the msf file. Start Thunderbird
and it will automagically build a new index. You might have to erase
and rebuild other msf index files.

Go to -> Tools -> Activity Manager
You can watch that Thunderbird is doing.

There are various scripts available for fixing Thunderbird, but all
the one\'s I could find are for Windoze, not Linux.

Oops, sorry, that must have gone to PM first:

Thanks, Jeff, I just got it going. At least somewhat. Deleting the msf
file initially didn\'t make it work. I have two accounts into the same
directory but not Global as that requires the use of Local. I had to
actually make two dummy directories, run Thunderbird with those, then
back to the real one, and restart three times. Whew. That sure feels rocky.

There are other weirdnesses in Thunderbird. For example, when you look
at the source of my message it lists a really old Windows OS and an
ancient Thunderbird version, since forever. I am umpteen iterations
farther, brand new Thunderbird and running Linux but Thunderbird never
uppdates any of that. Oh well, that\'s just cosmetic but it peeves some
purists in a Linux NG.

Regards,

Joerg

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2020-09-11, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:

Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Mozilla runs a bunch of newsgroups on their servers

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/#end-user-support

Or is this an IMAP question? yellow pages? NIS? kerberos?
(depends what you man by \"email directory\")

--
Jasen.

 

[Ricketty C]

On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 6:55:25 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:

On 9/11/20 3:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:07:13 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Rebuilding the Global Database
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/rebuilding-global-database

If that doesn\'t work, exit Thunderbird. find the INBOX.msf file.
That\'s the index to the inbox. Erase the msf file. Start Thunderbird
and it will automagically build a new index. You might have to erase
and rebuild other msf index files.

Go to -> Tools -> Activity Manager
You can watch that Thunderbird is doing.

There are various scripts available for fixing Thunderbird, but all
the one\'s I could find are for Windoze, not Linux.


Oops, sorry, that must have gone to PM first:

Thanks, Jeff, I just got it going. At least somewhat. Deleting the msf
file initially didn\'t make it work. I have two accounts into the same
directory but not Global as that requires the use of Local. I had to
actually make two dummy directories, run Thunderbird with those, then
back to the real one, and restart three times. Whew. That sure feels rocky.

There are other weirdnesses in Thunderbird. For example, when you look
at the source of my message it lists a really old Windows OS and an
ancient Thunderbird version, since forever. I am umpteen iterations
farther, brand new Thunderbird and running Linux but Thunderbird never
uppdates any of that. Oh well, that\'s just cosmetic but it peeves some
purists in a Linux NG.

I gave up on the newsreaders. I used Tbird for years until it crapped out and I could not get it working again. I was able to install Seamonkey which is a separate derivative from the same code base. After a year or two it also crapped out. At that point I gave up and started using Google groups here on the dark side of the force. Now GG is threatening to change the UI to something that sucks... again.

If it ain\'t broke, don\'t fix it. If it is broke, then break it more.

GG may not be perfect, but like everything else in this world, it\'s going to change, with you or without you and you often don\'t have the choice of without you.

I really liked my \'63 Chevy II. Those cars were not made to be driven so long. If I still had one, I\'d supersize it with an electric motor and battery. The battery might keep the floor pan from rusting out. lol

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:55:16 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
wrote:

Thanks, Jeff, I just got it going. At least somewhat. Deleting the msf
file initially didn\'t make it work.

Deleting and recreating the inbox.msf file is only to check if you can
read the messages already in your inbox. If you have one corrupted
msf index file, you\'re likely to have others. Every folder and
message file has an msf file. Rather than wait for something else to
fail, I suggest that you erase every msf file that you can find under
the profile folder and erase them. They should be hidden under:
~/.thunderbird/<Profile name>
~/.mozilla-thunderbird<Profile name>
Then, start Thunderbird to rebuild the msf indexes. If you have a
large number of messages saved, it might take a while. When done, and
you\'re sure things are working, Run: File -> Compact Folders.

I have two accounts into the same
directory but not Global as that requires the use of Local.

That doesn\'t make much of a difference. A different email account
under the same user profile is just another folder.

I had to
actually make two dummy directories, run Thunderbird with those, then
back to the real one, and restart three times. Whew. That sure feels rocky.

The bigger they are, the harder they crash. I keep old messages under
Local Folders. The smaller the databases that the DBM (database
mangler) has to do, the better it works.

Look for drive cloning and imaging software suitable for making
backups. I\'ve been using Clonezilla, but am looking for something
easier, better, and faster:
<https://www.ubuntupit.com/top-15-best-disk-cloning-software-for-linux/>



--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Jeff Layman]

On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:

Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Use the news.mozilla.org server on port 23. No security necessary.
Subscribe to mozilla.support.thunderbird.

I assume that it will work on your very old version of TB.

--

Jeff

 

[Martin Brown]

On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:

Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Not a newsgroup but there is a web support forum and place for reporting
bugs. They are usually very helpful if you have a genuine fault.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/thunderbird

Check that someone hasn\'t already had the same problem. I expect
recovering from OS meltdown on Windows isn\'t an uncommon problem.

Good luck!


--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On 9/11/20 5:07 PM, Joerg wrote:

Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Can\'t help you with your problem but I\'ve been using
<http://news.aioe.org> with Thunderbird. The price is sure right. I
have a Macbook Air though if that matters.

 

[Joerg]

On 9/11/20 11:45 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:

On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:
Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Use the news.mozilla.org server on port 23. No security necessary.
Subscribe to mozilla.support.thunderbird.

I cld not find that one in the line-up. My news service sually carries
all NGs except binary ones.

I assume that it will work on your very old version of TB.

Like I mentioned, the header info is wrong. I am using the newest TB but
it never updates the message source info. For whatever reason.

Regards,

Joerg

 

[Joerg]

On 9/12/20 1:30 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:
Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC
(they all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display
any of the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really
need it for a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Not a newsgroup but there is a web support forum and place for reporting
bugs. They are usually very helpful if you have a genuine fault.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/thunderbird

Thanks.

Check that someone hasn\'t already had the same problem. I expect
recovering from OS meltdown on Windows isn\'t an uncommon problem.

It as a HW meltdown. The PC shut down by itself and cannot be started
anymore. The PSU and switch are ok but the motherboard refuses to pull
down the green line on the PSU. Probably something simple but Dell does
not provide schematics. It is (was?) a very good PC, a Dell XPS 8700
with a powerful Intel i7 in there.

The OS here is MX-Linux

Good luck!

Thanks, I got it going well enough to work with email but it ain\'t the
same as before. Much slower.

Regards,

Joerg

 

[Jeff Layman]

On 12/09/2020 18:41, Joerg wrote:

On 9/11/20 11:45 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:
Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Use the news.mozilla.org server on port 23. No security necessary.
Subscribe to mozilla.support.thunderbird.


I cld not find that one in the line-up. My news service sually carries
all NGs except binary ones.

I was referring to the mozilla news server, not your own news service,
Not all carry the Moz support newsgroups (Eternal-September doesn\'t, for
example). Try the following:

File | New | Other accounts

Click on Newsgroup accounts | Next

Complete your name and email address you want to show | Next

In the \"Incoming Server Information\" box enter
news.mozilla.org

Enter the same wording (or whatever you want) in the \"Account Name\" box

Click on Finish. You might have to enter the port information (23) if TB
doesn\'t enter it automatically.

You should find all the Mozilla support NGs (and many others) available.

I assume that it will work on your very old version of TB.



Like I mentioned, the header info is wrong. I am using the newest TB but
it never updates the message source info. For whatever reason.

No idea why it\'s doing that. Does the same thing happen in Safe Mode?

--

Jeff

 

[Ricketty C]

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 1:41:58 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:

On 9/11/20 11:45 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:
Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Use the news.mozilla.org server on port 23. No security necessary.
Subscribe to mozilla.support.thunderbird.


I cld not find that one in the line-up. My news service sually carries
all NGs except binary ones.

You aren\'t paying close attention. This is not a group carried by anyone other than mozilla. You have to use their servers, as in a different account.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

I assume that it will work on your very old version of TB.



Like I mentioned, the header info is wrong. I am using the newest TB but
it never updates the message source info. For whatever reason.

Regards,

Joerg

 

[Jeff Layman]

On 12/09/2020 23:53, Ricketty C wrote:

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 1:41:58 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
On 9/11/20 11:45 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:
Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Use the news.mozilla.org server on port 23. No security necessary.
Subscribe to mozilla.support.thunderbird.


I cld not find that one in the line-up. My news service sually carries
all NGs except binary ones.

You aren\'t paying close attention. This is not a group carried by anyone other than mozilla.

I thought that until I checked. Eternal-September doesn\'t carry the
groups, but Solani does. Don\'t know about aioe and others.

You have to use their servers, as in a different account.

Yup. See my reply to Joerg; I hope that if he follows the info I gave he
will be able to access the Moz support NGs.

--

Jeff

 

[gray_wolf]

On 12/09/2020 1:45 am, Jeff Layman wrote:

On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:
Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC (they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Use the news.mozilla.org server on port 23. No security necessary. Subscribe to
mozilla.support.thunderbird.

I assume that it will work on your very old version of TB.

I can\'t speak about your problem but I\'ve solved all of mine by using the
\'Thunderbird Portable\' version and carry several instances on a flash drives.

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 11:07:16 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
wrote:

It as a HW meltdown. The PC shut down by itself and cannot be started
anymore. The PSU and switch are ok but the motherboard refuses to pull
down the green line on the PSU. Probably something simple but Dell does
not provide schematics. It is (was?) a very good PC, a Dell XPS 8700
with a powerful Intel i7 in there.

Bulging electrolytic capacitors on the motherboard, but more likely in
the power supply. Replace power supply and see if that fixes it. If
not, replacement (used) Z87 motherboard. About $100.
<https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Dell+XPS+8700+Z87+motherboard>

>The OS here is MX-Linux

Hmmm... I\'ve been meaning to try something simpler than Ubuntu and
Mint. Comparison of Ubuntu with MX-Linux:
<https://www.slant.co/versus/2689/22501/~ubuntu_vs_mx-linux>
Two members of the local Linux user group are running MX-Linux on
removable and portable (and resistant) media, and just moving the
drives from machine to machine.

Thanks, I got it going well enough to work with email but it ain\'t the
same as before. Much slower.

I would normally suggest doing image backups, which backs up
everything and is quite fast. So far, I don\'t like what I\'ve tried,
so no recommendation. Nobody makes backups until AFTER they have lost
data.

Incidentally, when I evacuated my house to avoid the CZU fire, I moved
my home Win7 mini-tower (HP Pavilion Elite m9077c) to my Spartan
former office. It worked just fine while I was there. However, when
I returned home 13 days later, it wouldn\'t boot. It was complaining
that it couldn\'t boot from various non-existent media devices (SD, CD,
SM, XD, etc). The problem was a failed USB to media card adapter,
clever buried under many layers of wire, plastic, and metal. No way
to disable the adapter in the BIOS. However, if I wait approximately
20 minutes for the BIOS to time out trying to boot from all 4 slots,
it functions normally. I\'m currently in the process of moving my
business stuff to a smaller Linux Mint 20.x and my \"productivity\"
stuff to Win10 on a Dell Optiplex 9020 i7 SFF.

Good luck.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

Joerg wrote:

Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC
(they all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display
any of the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really
need it for a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Try the grc.techtalk group at the grc.com server.

Browse to grc.com to get the parameters, or use the web interface there.

 

[Joerg]

On 9/12/20 11:22 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:

On 12/09/2020 18:41, Joerg wrote:
On 9/11/20 11:45 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:
Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC
(they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Use the news.mozilla.org server on port 23. No security necessary.
Subscribe to mozilla.support.thunderbird.


I cld not find that one in the line-up. My news service sually carries
all NGs except binary ones.

I was referring to the mozilla news server, not your own news service,
Not all carry the Moz support newsgroups (Eternal-September doesn\'t, for
example). Try the following:

File | New | Other accounts

Click on Newsgroup accounts | Next

Complete your name and email address you want to show | Next

In the \"Incoming Server Information\" box enter
news.mozilla.org

Enter the same wording (or whatever you want) in the \"Account Name\" box

Click on Finish. You might have to enter the port information (23) if TB
doesn\'t enter it automatically.

You should find all the Mozilla support NGs (and many others) available.

Thanks. Meantime I got the Thunderbird going, with a lot of massaging.
However, Firefox is absolutely recalcitrant when it comes to profile
transfers. It refuses to start, saying \"it\'s already running\" which
isn\'t true.

While I can download headers and post, I am unable to write there even
with port 23. All I get is this:

A News (NNTP) error occurred: No valid newsgroups in
\"mozilla.support.firefox\"

No idea what that means because I can read all the posts in that very NG.

I assume that it will work on your very old version of TB.



Like I mentioned, the header info is wrong. I am using the newest TB but
it never updates the message source info. For whatever reason.

No idea why it\'s doing that. Does the same thing happen in Safe Mode?

The header is always wrong but that\'s more cosmetic. Makes people think
I am using a stone-age system.

--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/

 

[Carl]

Joerg wrote:

On 9/12/20 11:22 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 12/09/2020 18:41, Joerg wrote:
On 9/11/20 11:45 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:
Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC
(they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need it
for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Use the news.mozilla.org server on port 23. No security necessary.
Subscribe to mozilla.support.thunderbird.


I cld not find that one in the line-up. My news service sually carries
all NGs except binary ones.

I was referring to the mozilla news server, not your own news service,
Not all carry the Moz support newsgroups (Eternal-September doesn\'t, for
example). Try the following:

File | New | Other accounts

Click on Newsgroup accounts | Next

Complete your name and email address you want to show | Next

In the \"Incoming Server Information\" box enter
news.mozilla.org

Enter the same wording (or whatever you want) in the \"Account Name\" box

Click on Finish. You might have to enter the port information (23) if TB
doesn\'t enter it automatically.

You should find all the Mozilla support NGs (and many others) available.


Thanks. Meantime I got the Thunderbird going, with a lot of massaging.
However, Firefox is absolutely recalcitrant when it comes to profile
transfers. It refuses to start, saying \"it\'s already running\" which isn\'t
true.

Can\'t help with Thunderbird but I have noticed for at least a year now that
Firefox seems to keep running for a minute or more after you exit. The
window closes and the taskbar icon becomes unhighlighted immediately but if
you exit then fairly quickly try to launch it again it will complain about
already being running. I assume it is doing some internal housekeeping
tasks. I don\'t know exactly how long to wait, I just do something else and
then come back and try again. Maybe you were closing it and then trying to
reopen it too soon to test your transfer?

c
c

While I can download headers and post, I am unable to write there even with
port 23. All I get is this:

A News (NNTP) error occurred: No valid newsgroups in
\"mozilla.support.firefox\"

No idea what that means because I can read all the posts in that very NG.



I assume that it will work on your very old version of TB.



Like I mentioned, the header info is wrong. I am using the newest TB but
it never updates the message source info. For whatever reason.

No idea why it\'s doing that. Does the same thing happen in Safe Mode?


The header is always wrong but that\'s more cosmetic. Makes people think I
am using a stone-age system.

--
Regards,
Carl Ijames

 

[Joerg]

On 9/18/20 6:15 PM, Carl wrote:

Joerg wrote:
On 9/12/20 11:22 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 12/09/2020 18:41, Joerg wrote:
On 9/11/20 11:45 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 11/09/2020 23:07, Joerg wrote:
Just had a major hardware meltdown and in its wake also lost email
access. Makes it very quiet here

Tried to transfer my email directory from the backup to another PC
(they
all have Linux now) and Thunderbird will absolutely not display
any of
the emails in there. So I need help, fast, because I really need
it for
a church project. Does anyone know a NG for this stuff?

Regards,

Joerg

Use the news.mozilla.org server on port 23. No security necessary.
Subscribe to mozilla.support.thunderbird.


I cld not find that one in the line-up. My news service sually carries
all NGs except binary ones.

I was referring to the mozilla news server, not your own news
service, Not all carry the Moz support newsgroups (Eternal-September
doesn\'t, for example). Try the following:

File | New | Other accounts

Click on Newsgroup accounts | Next

Complete your name and email address you want to show | Next

In the \"Incoming Server Information\" box enter
news.mozilla.org

Enter the same wording (or whatever you want) in the \"Account Name\" box

Click on Finish. You might have to enter the port information (23) if
TB doesn\'t enter it automatically.

You should find all the Mozilla support NGs (and many others) available.


Thanks.  Meantime I got the Thunderbird going, with a lot of
massaging. However, Firefox is absolutely recalcitrant when it comes
to profile transfers. It refuses to start, saying \"it\'s already
running\" which isn\'t true.

Can\'t help with Thunderbird but I have noticed for at least a year now
that Firefox seems to keep running for a minute or more after you exit.
The window closes and the taskbar icon becomes unhighlighted immediately
but if you exit then fairly quickly try to launch it again it will
complain about already being running.  I assume it is doing some
internal housekeeping tasks.  I don\'t know exactly how long to wait, I
just do something else and then come back and try again. Maybe you were
closing it and then trying to reopen it too soon to test your transfer?

Oops, accidentally went to PM. I\'ve got to get the reply button out of
the newsgroup part of TB.

So here again:

No, I waited a long time. However, I found out that one can get most of
the old profile in with a sledgehammer. Copy one file after the other
but just for the bookmarks, cookies and stuff. One by one, test after
each copy, stop and revert if it freezes up. This profile transfer feels
a bit buggy.

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Regards, Joerg

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