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The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html
 
On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

Three years later:

<https://youtu.be/0DaQ-QhKwtI?t=137>
 
On 11/17/20 10:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

The technical stuff is well beyond me but I noticed he mentioned
competitors keeping his group on their toes.
Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html
James Burke had a show, Connections, on in the late 1970s.
He talked about the odd coincidences that happened to make a
modern invention. I wonder what he\'d have to say now about all
the stuff invented since then.
<https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-burke-connections/>
 
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:17:39 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

Non-American? Palade did his post-doc research and Nobel work in the
US and was a US citizen by 1952.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
tirsdag den 17. november 2020 kl. 17.52.37 UTC+1 skrev Dean Hoffman:
On 11/17/20 10:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/
The technical stuff is well beyond me but I noticed he mentioned
competitors keeping his group on their toes.

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

James Burke had a show, Connections, on in the late 1970s.
He talked about the odd coincidences that happened to make a
modern invention. I wonder what he\'d have to say now about all
the stuff invented since then.
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-burke-connections/

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf02uWXhaGRng_YzH-Ser_VEV4lGSLX_1
 
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:17:39 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html
Non-American? Palade did his post-doc research and Nobel work in the
US and was a US citizen by 1952.

LOL- did you miss the part about being born in 1912? Forty years isn\'t exactly overnight shipping.

He earned his M.D. in Romania. From the wiki \"early life\" section:
George Emil Palade was born on November 19, 1912 in Iași, Romania; his father was a professor of philosophy at the University of Iași and his mother was a high school teacher. George E. Palade received his M.D. in 1940 from the Carol Davila School of Medicine in Bucharest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Emil_Palade

No telling how he would have ended up as an American raised doctor- probably more high income practice oriented than basic research.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:29:57 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

Three years later:

https://youtu.be/0DaQ-QhKwtI?t=137

Some would say that\'s an improvement.
 
On 11/17/2020 1:16 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:29:57 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

Three years later:

https://youtu.be/0DaQ-QhKwtI?t=137

Some would say that\'s an improvement.

I kinda like other people a lot of the time, yeah sure they can be a
pain in the ass sometimes but I think I\'d miss having them around.
Particularly women, younger women, yeah I\'d definitely miss that.

Never had a dog or particularly wanted to. Dogs will love anyone, anyone
with a steak handy at least. All too easy.
 
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:58:55 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:17:39 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html
Non-American? Palade did his post-doc research and Nobel work in the
US and was a US citizen by 1952.

LOL- did you miss the part about being born in 1912? Forty years isn\'t exactly overnight shipping.

He earned his M.D. in Romania. From the wiki \"early life\" section:
George Emil Palade was born on November 19, 1912 in Ia?i, Romania; his father was a professor of philosophy at the University of Ia?i and his mother was a high school teacher. George E. Palade received his M.D. in 1940 from the Carol Davila School of Medicine in Bucharest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Emil_Palade

No telling how he would have ended up as an American raised doctor- probably more high income practice oriented than basic research.






--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

Being American isn\'t about where you were born, it\'s about where you
decided to live and work.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:35:06 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:58:55 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:17:39 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html
Non-American? Palade did his post-doc research and Nobel work in the
US and was a US citizen by 1952.

LOL- did you miss the part about being born in 1912? Forty years isn\'t exactly overnight shipping.

He earned his M.D. in Romania. From the wiki \"early life\" section:
George Emil Palade was born on November 19, 1912 in Ia?i, Romania; his father was a professor of philosophy at the University of Ia?i and his mother was a high school teacher. George E. Palade received his M.D. in 1940 from the Carol Davila School of Medicine in Bucharest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Emil_Palade

No telling how he would have ended up as an American raised doctor- probably more high income practice oriented than basic research.






--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
Being American isn\'t about where you were born, it\'s about where you
decided to live and work.

I\'m pretty sure he wasn\'t going to return to Romania under Soviet occupation and exploitation:
\"Romania remained under the direct military occupation and economic control of the USSR until the late 1950s.\"
\"A 2006 Commission estimated the number of direct victims of the Communist repression at two million people.[\"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania#Communism
Prior to that \"Antonescu signed the Tripartite Pact of Germany, Italy and Japan on 23 November. [1940]\"
The place was in constant turmoil- a bloodbath of wars and repression.
That Wiki bio leaves out a lot of stuff- but it does say he came to U.S. in 1946. Sounds more like a refugee move than a personal choice.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
 
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:52:37 AM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/17/20 10:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/
The technical stuff is well beyond me but I noticed he mentioned
competitors keeping his group on their toes.

Definitely- altruism does NOT work- there has to be more at stake for people to go the extra yard.

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

James Burke had a show, Connections, on in the late 1970s.
He talked about the odd coincidences that happened to make a
modern invention. I wonder what he\'d have to say now about all
the stuff invented since then.
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-burke-connections/

That guy really rambles on and on....
 
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/17/2020 1:16 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:29:57 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

Three years later:

https://youtu.be/0DaQ-QhKwtI?t=137

Some would say that\'s an improvement.

I kinda like other people a lot of the time, yeah sure they can be a
pain in the ass sometimes but I think I\'d miss having them around.
Particularly women, younger women, yeah I\'d definitely miss that.

Never had a dog or particularly wanted to. Dogs will love anyone, anyone
with a steak handy at least. All too easy.

The global population is definitely heading for a correction. The shortages are just beginning to unfold. Quite a lot of the impending disasters are being blamed on global warming when they should be blamed on overpopulation..
 
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 12:23:19 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/17/2020 1:16 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:29:57 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

Three years later:

https://youtu.be/0DaQ-QhKwtI?t=137

Some would say that\'s an improvement.

I kinda like other people a lot of the time, yeah sure they can be a
pain in the ass sometimes but I think I\'d miss having them around.
Particularly women, younger women, yeah I\'d definitely miss that.

Never had a dog or particularly wanted to. Dogs will love anyone, anyone
with a steak handy at least. All too easy.

The global population is definitely heading for a correction. The shortages are just beginning to unfold. Quite a lot of the impending disasters are being blamed on global warming when they should be blamed on overpopulation.

The next big source of misery will be from consequences of the virus
lockdowns.

We were doing great before that. Poverty down, life spans up, food
production up, birth rates down, education up, mostly good stuff.
 
On 2020/11/17 12:17 p.m., Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:52:37 AM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/17/20 10:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/
The technical stuff is well beyond me but I noticed he mentioned
competitors keeping his group on their toes.

Definitely- altruism does NOT work- there has to be more at stake for people to go the extra yard.


Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

James Burke had a show, Connections, on in the late 1970s.
He talked about the odd coincidences that happened to make a
modern invention. I wonder what he\'d have to say now about all
the stuff invented since then.
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-burke-connections/

That guy really rambles on and on....

James Burke did followup series to Connections - Connections 2 and
Connections3...

Do a search for James Burke on YT and many shows pop up!

John :-#)#
 
On 11/17/2020 3:49 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 12:23:19 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/17/2020 1:16 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:29:57 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

Three years later:

https://youtu.be/0DaQ-QhKwtI?t=137

Some would say that\'s an improvement.

I kinda like other people a lot of the time, yeah sure they can be a
pain in the ass sometimes but I think I\'d miss having them around.
Particularly women, younger women, yeah I\'d definitely miss that.

Never had a dog or particularly wanted to. Dogs will love anyone, anyone
with a steak handy at least. All too easy.

The global population is definitely heading for a correction. The shortages are just beginning to unfold. Quite a lot of the impending disasters are being blamed on global warming when they should be blamed on overpopulation.

The next big source of misery will be from consequences of the virus
lockdowns.

We were doing great before that. Poverty down, life spans up, food
production up, birth rates down, education up, mostly good stuff.

Weren\'t a bunch of states sending Americans $600 a week unemployment
until they realized that was more money than 70% of Americans had ever
earned in their lives?
 
On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 7:15:01 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:35:06 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:58:55 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:17:39 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html
Non-American? Palade did his post-doc research and Nobel work in the
US and was a US citizen by 1952.

LOL- did you miss the part about being born in 1912? Forty years isn\'t exactly overnight shipping.

He earned his M.D. in Romania. From the wiki \"early life\" section:
George Emil Palade was born on November 19, 1912 in Ia?i, Romania; his father was a professor of philosophy at the University of Ia?i and his mother was a high school teacher. George E. Palade received his M.D. in 1940 from the Carol Davila School of Medicine in Bucharest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Emil_Palade

No telling how he would have ended up as an American raised doctor- probably more high income practice oriented than basic research.

Being American isn\'t about where you were born, it\'s about where you
decided to live and work.
I\'m pretty sure he wasn\'t going to return to Romania under Soviet occupation and exploitation:
\"Romania remained under the direct military occupation and economic control of the USSR until the late 1950s.\"
\"A 2006 Commission estimated the number of direct victims of the Communist repression at two million people.[\"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania#Communism
Prior to that \"Antonescu signed the Tripartite Pact of Germany, Italy and Japan on 23 November. [1940]\"
The place was in constant turmoil- a bloodbath of wars and repression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceau%C8%99escu

Ceaușescu didn\'t come to power until 1965, but the place was pretty hopeless before that. He and his wife seem to have been pretty unpleasant people, and after the Soviet Union collapsed they not only got ejected from power but were also tried and executed for their crimes - not much of trial, but it was tidier that letting a mob lynch them.

> That Wiki bio leaves out a lot of stuff- but it does say he came to U.S. in 1946. Sounds more like a refugee move than a personal choice.

He came from a privileged family. The Soviet take-over tended to treat such people as \"enemies of the people\" and those who could did get out. Some ended up in Australia too.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:59:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 11/17/2020 3:49 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 12:23:19 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:26:23 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/17/2020 1:16 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:29:57 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/17/2020 11:17 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html

Three years later:

https://youtu.be/0DaQ-QhKwtI?t=137

Some would say that\'s an improvement.

I kinda like other people a lot of the time, yeah sure they can be a
pain in the ass sometimes but I think I\'d miss having them around.
Particularly women, younger women, yeah I\'d definitely miss that.

Never had a dog or particularly wanted to. Dogs will love anyone, anyone
with a steak handy at least. All too easy.

The global population is definitely heading for a correction. The shortages are just beginning to unfold. Quite a lot of the impending disasters are being blamed on global warming when they should be blamed on overpopulation.

The next big source of misery will be from consequences of the virus
lockdowns.

We were doing great before that. Poverty down, life spans up, food
production up, birth rates down, education up, mostly good stuff.


Weren\'t a bunch of states sending Americans $600 a week unemployment
until they realized that was more money than 70% of Americans had ever
earned in their lives?

Median US household income is over $63K, over $1200 a week.

There are half a billion people in the world living on under $2 a day.
The absolute number is the lowest it\'s been in over 100 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_poverty#/media/File:World-population-in-extreme-poverty-absolute.svg
 
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 12:14:55 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:35:06 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:58:55 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:17:39 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html
Non-American? Palade did his post-doc research and Nobel work in the
US and was a US citizen by 1952.

LOL- did you miss the part about being born in 1912? Forty years isn\'t exactly overnight shipping.

He earned his M.D. in Romania. From the wiki \"early life\" section:
George Emil Palade was born on November 19, 1912 in Ia?i, Romania; his father was a professor of philosophy at the University of Ia?i and his mother was a high school teacher. George E. Palade received his M.D. in 1940 from the Carol Davila School of Medicine in Bucharest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Emil_Palade

No telling how he would have ended up as an American raised doctor- probably more high income practice oriented than basic research.






--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
Being American isn\'t about where you were born, it\'s about where you
decided to live and work.

I\'m pretty sure he wasn\'t going to return to Romania under Soviet occupation and exploitation:
\"Romania remained under the direct military occupation and economic control of the USSR until the late 1950s.\"
\"A 2006 Commission estimated the number of direct victims of the Communist repression at two million people.[\"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania#Communism
Prior to that \"Antonescu signed the Tripartite Pact of Germany, Italy and Japan on 23 November. [1940]\"
The place was in constant turmoil- a bloodbath of wars and repression.
That Wiki bio leaves out a lot of stuff- but it does say he came to U.S. in 1946. Sounds more like a refugee move than a personal choice.

He didn\'t choose Canada or France or Brazil.
 
On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 10:46:28 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 12:14:55 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:35:06 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:58:55 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:17:39 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

The latest vaccine technology using messenger RNA technology, mRNA, which is tentatively proving to be a very effective immunization for COVID-19, is based upon the cell chemistry of the ribosome. Ribosomes were first discovered by a Romanian born immigrant to America, George Palade.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1974/palade/facts/

Looks like quite a few \"non-Americans\" have made major contributions to the kinds of science and technology essential to overcoming the toughest challenges confronting mankind.

http://www.biology4kids.com/files/cell_ribos.html
Non-American? Palade did his post-doc research and Nobel work in the
US and was a US citizen by 1952.

LOL- did you miss the part about being born in 1912? Forty years isn\'t exactly overnight shipping.

He earned his M.D. in Romania. From the wiki \"early life\" section:
George Emil Palade was born on November 19, 1912 in Ia?i, Romania; his father was a professor of philosophy at the University of Ia?i and his mother was a high school teacher. George E. Palade received his M.D. in 1940 from the Carol Davila School of Medicine in Bucharest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Emil_Palade

No telling how he would have ended up as an American raised doctor- probably more high income practice oriented than basic research.

Being American isn\'t about where you were born, it\'s about where you
decided to live and work.

I\'m pretty sure he wasn\'t going to return to Romania under Soviet occupation and exploitation:
\"Romania remained under the direct military occupation and economic control of the USSR until the late 1950s.\"
\"A 2006 Commission estimated the number of direct victims of the Communist repression at two million people.[\"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania#Communism
Prior to that \"Antonescu signed the Tripartite Pact of Germany, Italy and Japan on 23 November. [1940]\"
The place was in constant turmoil- a bloodbath of wars and repression.
That Wiki bio leaves out a lot of stuff- but it does say he came to U.S. in 1946. Sounds more like a refugee move than a personal choice.

He didn\'t choose Canada or France or Brazil.

He had a medical degree. America would have let him in. They were a bit picky about who they would let in at the time.

Australia took in quite few people after WW2 - they were interested in getting the population a bit higher. The White Australia policy was still vigorously enforced back then, but they didn\'t have the US prejudice against southern Europeans - or not to the same extent.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 3:44:21 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:

There are half a billion people in the world living on under $2 a day.
The absolute number is the lowest it\'s been in over 100 years.

So? The life of hunter-gatherer or herder or subsistence farmer is just fine without
currency. $2 a day sounds bad, but a herd or farm is worth BIG money,
and those investments pay off directly in food etc., without any cash changing
hands.
 

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