Google Groups has Taken the Crap!...

[Rickster C]

I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

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[John Doe]

Whatever the problem is...

Way past time to get a real newsreader.

But seriously.

 

[Andy Bennet]

On 12/11/2020 04:17, Rickster C wrote:

I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

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And Google photo\'s is going to be a subscription service after next June.

Bar stewards.

 

[George Herold]

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 11:17:15 PM UTC-5, Rickster C wrote:

I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

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Rick C.

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OMG... me too. Is there still something like eternal September?
I clicked some help button and got this..
https://support.google.com/groups#topic=9216
(A game of slides and ladders.. no thanks.)

George H.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 11/12/20 3:09 PM, George Herold wrote:

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 11:17:15 PM UTC-5, Rickster C wrote:
I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

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Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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OMG... me too. Is there still something like eternal September?
I clicked some help button and got this..
https://support.google.com/groups#topic=9216
(A game of slides and ladders.. no thanks.)

George H.

Sure. Once you sign up on ES, it\'ll show you the newsgroup list. I use
ES, AIOE, and Supernews.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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[Rickster C]

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 3:16:45 AM UTC-5, Andy Bennet wrote:

On 12/11/2020 04:17, Rickster C wrote:
I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

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And Google photo\'s is going to be a subscription service after next June.

You are aware they give you the first 15GB for free right?

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[Dean Hoffman]

On 11/11/20 10:17 PM, Rickster C wrote:

I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

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AIOE is free and Thunderbird works good enough for me. I like the
filters and
the ignore thread features.

 

[Rickster C]

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 11/11/20 10:17 PM, Rickster C wrote:
I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

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AIOE is free and Thunderbird works good enough for me. I like the
filters and
the ignore thread features.

I tried T-bird thinking if it worked out for newsgroups I could try it for my email. I never got confident enough to switch from the old standby Eudora. Good thing. Eventually T-bird took the crap and with the poor support it never resumed working. I was able to read the files into Sea Monkey as they have a common code base, but a year or so later IT took a dump. I gave up and decided Google groups is good enough.

Well, now Google Groups has taken a dump!!!

I\'ve given it a try and it does so much poorly that it\'s a real piece of... work. They don\'t give a mode for viewing in a mono font anymore I think they call it \"Show Original\". It\'s in the menu, but greyed out for these groups, apparently to protect users privacy. Google has no concept of usenet..

Pure idiots. I would say they are worse then the ultra-right posters here, but I don\'t want to offend the ultra-right posters that badly by suggesting there is a comparison.

BTW, one of the youtube videos someone posted suggested I watch a Craig Ferguson video with Alice Eve... OMG!

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[Edward Rawde]

\"Rickster C\" <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fb4d631e-cc11-46a0-83fd-b3dc5b74cee0o@googlegroups.com...
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/11/20 10:17 PM, Rickster C wrote:
I tried T-bird thinking if it worked out for newsgroups I could try it for
my email. I never got confident enough to switch from the old standby
Eudora. Good thing. Eventually T-bird took the crap and with the poor
support it never resumed working. I was able to read the files into Sea
Monkey as they have a common code base, but a year or so later IT took a
dump. I gave up and decided Google groups is good enough.

Well, now Google Groups has taken a dump!!!

I\'ve given it a try and it does so much poorly that it\'s a real piece of...
work. They don\'t give a mode for viewing in a mono font anymore I think
they call it \"Show Original\". It\'s in the menu, but greyed out for these
groups, apparently to protect users privacy. Google has no concept of
usenet.

I\'ve always used Outlook Express on Windows XP which has now moved into
Hyper-V on Windows 10.
I have other software which occasionally requires use of XP.

I don\'t care much for Google but they are hard to avoid.

Pure idiots. I would say they are worse then the ultra-right posters here,
but I don\'t want to offend the ultra-right posters that badly by suggesting
there is a comparison.

BTW, one of the youtube videos someone posted suggested I watch a Craig
Ferguson video with Alice Eve... OMG!

--

Rick C.

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On 11/12/20 4:07 PM, Rickster C wrote:

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/11/20 10:17 PM, Rickster C wrote:
I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

gnuarm.del...@gmail.com\'s profile photo
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
Jun 11, 2020, 3:21:08 PM
to

AIOE is free and Thunderbird works good enough for me. I like the
filters and
the ignore thread features.

I tried T-bird thinking if it worked out for newsgroups I could try it for my email. I never got confident enough to switch from the old standby Eudora. Good thing. Eventually T-bird took the crap and with the poor support it never resumed working. I was able to read the files into Sea Monkey as they have a common code base, but a year or so later IT took a dump. I gave up and decided Google groups is good enough.

Well, now Google Groups has taken a dump!!!

I\'ve given it a try and it does so much poorly that it\'s a real piece of... work. They don\'t give a mode for viewing in a mono font anymore I think they call it \"Show Original\". It\'s in the menu, but greyed out for these groups, apparently to protect users privacy. Google has no concept of usenet.

Pure idiots. I would say they are worse then the ultra-right posters here, but I don\'t want to offend the ultra-right posters that badly by suggesting there is a comparison.

BTW, one of the youtube videos someone posted suggested I watch a Craig Ferguson video with Alice Eve... OMG!

Loni Anderson in a white dress on the old Tonight Show with
Johnny Carson.

 

[Rickster C]

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 6:06:30 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 11/12/20 4:07 PM, Rickster C wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/11/20 10:17 PM, Rickster C wrote:
I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

gnuarm.del...@gmail.com\'s profile photo
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
Jun 11, 2020, 3:21:08 PM
to

AIOE is free and Thunderbird works good enough for me. I like the
filters and
the ignore thread features.

I tried T-bird thinking if it worked out for newsgroups I could try it for my email. I never got confident enough to switch from the old standby Eudora. Good thing. Eventually T-bird took the crap and with the poor support it never resumed working. I was able to read the files into Sea Monkey as they have a common code base, but a year or so later IT took a dump. I gave up and decided Google groups is good enough.

Well, now Google Groups has taken a dump!!!

I\'ve given it a try and it does so much poorly that it\'s a real piece of... work. They don\'t give a mode for viewing in a mono font anymore I think they call it \"Show Original\". It\'s in the menu, but greyed out for these groups, apparently to protect users privacy. Google has no concept of usenet.

Pure idiots. I would say they are worse then the ultra-right posters here, but I don\'t want to offend the ultra-right posters that badly by suggesting there is a comparison.

BTW, one of the youtube videos someone posted suggested I watch a Craig Ferguson video with Alice Eve... OMG!

Loni Anderson in a white dress on the old Tonight Show with
Johnny Carson.

You had to start me down another rabbit hole...

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[Dean Hoffman]

On 11/12/20 5:38 PM, Rickster C wrote:

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 6:06:30 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/12/20 4:07 PM, Rickster C wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/11/20 10:17 PM, Rickster C wrote:
I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

gnuarm.del...@gmail.com\'s profile photo
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com
Jun 11, 2020, 3:21:08 PM
to

AIOE is free and Thunderbird works good enough for me. I like the
filters and
the ignore thread features.

I tried T-bird thinking if it worked out for newsgroups I could try it for my email. I never got confident enough to switch from the old standby Eudora. Good thing. Eventually T-bird took the crap and with the poor support it never resumed working. I was able to read the files into Sea Monkey as they have a common code base, but a year or so later IT took a dump. I gave up and decided Google groups is good enough.

Well, now Google Groups has taken a dump!!!

I\'ve given it a try and it does so much poorly that it\'s a real piece of... work. They don\'t give a mode for viewing in a mono font anymore I think they call it \"Show Original\". It\'s in the menu, but greyed out for these groups, apparently to protect users privacy. Google has no concept of usenet.

Pure idiots. I would say they are worse then the ultra-right posters here, but I don\'t want to offend the ultra-right posters that badly by suggesting there is a comparison.

BTW, one of the youtube videos someone posted suggested I watch a Craig Ferguson video with Alice Eve... OMG!

Loni Anderson in a white dress on the old Tonight Show with
Johnny Carson.

You had to start me down another rabbit hole...

Comedian Flip Wilson \"The devil made me do it\".

T Bird is undergoing a change. It\'s up to 83.0b3 (64-bit)
I guess I\'m on the beta update channel.

 

[Phil Allison]

Rickster C wrote:
===============

I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

** Yep - been avoiding that until now.

One thing, I could not find the \"Mark all Read \" command -
it\'s under the three vertical dots icon. Who knew?

But the larger pint on screen suits me fine.
GG is not all bad, except for the brain dead trolls it invited onto usenet.

People like you.

..... Phil

 

[Rickster C]

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 11:17:15 PM UTC-5, Rickster C wrote:

I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

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This reminds me of a Randy Newman song asking God....

Lord, if you won\'t take care of us
Won\'t you please, please let us be?

Google gets little to nothing from providing Groups. So why not just \"please, please let us be?\"

And the Lord^H^H^H^HGoogle said:

Man means nothing he means less to me
Than the lowliest cactus flower
Or the humblest Yucca tree
He chases round this desert
Cause he thinks that\'s where I\'ll be
That\'s why I love mankind

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[Klaus Kragelund]

On 12-11-2020 22:27, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 11/11/20 10:17 PM, Rickster C wrote:
I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of
returning to classic format.  Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care?  The old and new format seem to work with the server
the same.  I am posting this on an old tab.  They add ?oldui=1#!
followed by the group name to get the classic interface.  It won\'t
load fresh, but it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

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    AIOE is free and Thunderbird works good enough for me.  I like the
filters and
the ignore thread features.

Thanks for the hint

I just returned to Thunderbird for the first time in 10 years, the web
interface for Google Groups just gets worse and worse

 

[Phil Allison]

Klaus Kragelund wrote:
===================

I just returned to Thunderbird for the first time in 10 years, the web
interface for Google Groups just gets worse and worse

** Yep - it now has a most annoying habit of *forcing * you to write on the bottom edge of your screen if you reply to the last message in a thread.
As is happening to me right now.

..... Phil

 

[Don Y]

On 11/30/2020 6:21 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:

On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 14:21:07 -0700, Don Y
blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

I\'m talking about a full *feed* to my own NNTP server. This places
a bigger hit on their server as you\'re moving ALL of the articles
(headers and bodies) in *all* of the newsgroups onto *your* server,
not just the headers (and those few bodies) for \"subscribed\" groups.

Well, GigaNews et al are getting that feed somewhere, and likely
paying for it too.

Yes. In the past (now distant), my ISP would HOST an NNTP server and
provide a complimentary feed to those of us interested in having such.

Now, my (local) ISP neither hosts an NNTP server, SMTP server,
shell accounts, or other \"esoterica\".

<frown>

 

[none]

In article <c8c8b495-2cc7-35f5-20dd-813b4e486cca@electrooptical.net>,
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 11/12/20 3:09 PM, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 11:17:15 PM UTC-5, Rickster C wrote:
I opened a new tab and Google Groups no longer has the option of
returning to classic format. Damn Google Groups!

Why do they care? The old and new format seem to work with the server
the same. I am posting this on an old tab. They add ?oldui=1#! followed
by the group name to get the classic interface. It won\'t load fresh, but
it continues to work.

Ggggrrrr, dang Google Groups!

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Jun 11, 2020, 3:21:08 PM
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OMG... me too. Is there still something like eternal September?
I clicked some help button and got this..
https://support.google.com/groups#topic=9216
(A game of slides and ladders.. no thanks.)

George H.


Sure. Once you sign up on ES, it\'ll show you the newsgroup list. I use
ES, AIOE, and Supernews.

My internet provider xs4all.nl just has an associated mailserver
webmail.xs4all.nl and an nntpserver news.xs4all.nl.
Is that uncommon?

Cheers
Phil Hobbs

Groetjes Albert
--
This is the first day of the end of your life.
It may not kill you, but it does make your weaker.
If you can\'t beat them, too bad.
albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst

 

[Don Y]

On 11/29/2020 12:44 PM, albert wrote:

My internet provider xs4all.nl just has an associated mailserver
webmail.xs4all.nl and an nntpserver news.xs4all.nl.
Is that uncommon?

I don\'t think many US ISPs provide NNTP servers. In the past,
*smaller* providers would host a local NNTP server, local groups,
shell accounts, etc.

Now, even hosting SMTP is becoming rarer as so many folks get their
email from the likes of google.

Getting an NNTP *feed* is also more challenging.

 

[Joe Gwinn]

On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 14:18:37 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

On 11/29/2020 12:44 PM, albert wrote:
My internet provider xs4all.nl just has an associated mailserver
webmail.xs4all.nl and an nntpserver news.xs4all.nl.
Is that uncommon?

I don\'t think many US ISPs provide NNTP servers. In the past,
*smaller* providers would host a local NNTP server, local groups,
shell accounts, etc.

Now, even hosting SMTP is becoming rarer as so many folks get their
email from the likes of google.

Getting an NNTP *feed* is also more challenging.

It\'s not hard at all. I used to get usenet news via COMCAST, but they
dropped that service, so now I get it from Giganews. There are many
others.

Joe Gwinn