frightening

[John Larkin]

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, 16 October 2015 13:56:02 UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

What's actually frightening is that a clown who can say "We presume CO2 was at 280 ppm at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, before human activity could have caused a significant impact " gets a public podium.

Most people have heard of the Greenland and Antarctic ice cores samples, which is how we know - not "presume" - that C02 levels were around 270ppm from the end the last ice age to the start of the industrial revolution. This clown hasn't come across this well-known data.

Admittedly, only clowns miss-informed in the right - denialist - mode get a podium on Anthony Watts' bit of the anthropogenic global warming denialist propaganda machine, but you'd have thought that even Anthony Watts would have known enough to correct that particular bit of ignorance.

And - of course - John Larkin is the kind of clown who takes this rubbish seriously and posts a link to it on sci.electronics.design without even marking it as Off Topic. If he'd ever paid attention in his undergraduate science lecturer, he'd have been able to label it nonsense as well.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[rickman]

On 10/15/2015 10:55 PM, John Larkin wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

Yeah, it is pretty frightening that anyone would believe a lack of CO2
in the atmosphere is our most present threat.

--

Rick

 

[Martin Riddle]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Cheers

 

[Robert Baer]

John Larkin wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

Hmmm...this guy SITS on a seal,and possibly killing it (how can it
breathe properly), and say that the clubbers did the dirty deed?
One could argue that the clubbers "saved" the seal.
If one is going to one extreme (his) then one could take the opposite...

And he rattles on essentially praising to the sky (heavens? with
crystal sphere and all that) the benefits of excess CO2.
Yea, unto the ends of the (flat) earth, may he breath such...

 

[Robert Baer]

Martin Riddle wrote:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:


This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?




BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Cheers
Oh, they sayeth, that is absolute proof of (whatever..fill in he blank).

 

What's actually frightening is that a clown who can say "We presume CO2 was at 280 ppm at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, before human activity could have caused a significant impact " gets a public podium.

he was not questioning that point...
yes it was 280 ppm

his point is that there are __good__ effects of increasing CO2

why don't you refute the logic of the argument instead of calling names

Mark

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christense]

Den fredag den 16. oktober 2015 kl. 17.59.05 UTC+2 skrev rickman:

On 10/16/2015 9:59 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 16/10/2015 14:47, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:35:31 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/


After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Oh, they sayeth, that is absolute proof of (whatever..fill in he
blank).

I wrote a little program once that just lights up random pixels on the
screen. If you run that for a while, it's amazing the patterns that
you can see, or think you can see.

After a while it will look like white (or green) cat in a snowstorm
depending on the display screen technology. Flipping the bits randomly
or according to some CA rule gives a more entertaining screen saver.

A friend did a classic 3D test on one of the weaker random number
generators RANDU on the Tek display - the result is now well known:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RANDU

Workstations often use life simulations or related CAs.

All our glass TTYs when they were novel ended up with ">Login:" burned
into the top LHS and likewise repeated faintly every line underneath.

My Panasonic TV annoyingly displays "Screen Saver" at random positions
by default - hardly inspiring.

Care to share what CA stands for?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton

?

-Lasse

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christense]

Den fredag den 16. oktober 2015 kl. 18.54.28 UTC+2 skrev rickman:

On 10/16/2015 12:27 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
Den fredag den 16. oktober 2015 kl. 17.59.05 UTC+2 skrev rickman:
On 10/16/2015 9:59 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 16/10/2015 14:47, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:35:31 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/


After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Oh, they sayeth, that is absolute proof of (whatever..fill in he
blank).

I wrote a little program once that just lights up random pixels on the
screen. If you run that for a while, it's amazing the patterns that
you can see, or think you can see.

After a while it will look like white (or green) cat in a snowstorm
depending on the display screen technology. Flipping the bits randomly
or according to some CA rule gives a more entertaining screen saver.

A friend did a classic 3D test on one of the weaker random number
generators RANDU on the Tek display - the result is now well known:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RANDU

Workstations often use life simulations or related CAs.

All our glass TTYs when they were novel ended up with ">Login:" burned
into the top LHS and likewise repeated faintly every line underneath.

My Panasonic TV annoyingly displays "Screen Saver" at random positions
by default - hardly inspiring.

Care to share what CA stands for?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton

?

IKYTISHKYA BTAOAC

bless you ..

-Lasse

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:35:31 -0700, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:


This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?




BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Cheers
Oh, they sayeth, that is absolute proof of (whatever..fill in he blank).

I wrote a little program once that just lights up random pixels on the
screen. If you run that for a while, it's amazing the patterns that
you can see, or think you can see.

 

[Martin Brown]

On 16/10/2015 14:47, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:35:31 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Oh, they sayeth, that is absolute proof of (whatever..fill in he blank).

I wrote a little program once that just lights up random pixels on the
screen. If you run that for a while, it's amazing the patterns that
you can see, or think you can see.

After a while it will look like white (or green) cat in a snowstorm
depending on the display screen technology. Flipping the bits randomly
or according to some CA rule gives a more entertaining screen saver.

A friend did a classic 3D test on one of the weaker random number
generators RANDU on the Tek display - the result is now well known:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RANDU

Workstations often use life simulations or related CAs.

All our glass TTYs when they were novel ended up with ">Login:" burned
into the top LHS and likewise repeated faintly every line underneath.

My Panasonic TV annoyingly displays "Screen Saver" at random positions
by default - hardly inspiring.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUn]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:47:05 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> Gave us:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:35:31 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:


This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?




BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Cheers
Oh, they sayeth, that is absolute proof of (whatever..fill in he blank).

I wrote a little program once that just lights up random pixels on the
screen. If you run that for a while, it's amazing the patterns that
you can see, or think you can see.

Fractal apps are a lot better for seeing things that are familiar...

https://www.soundspectrum.com/g-force/

The trial is free and quite sufficient.

The purchased product is 100% user programmable.

https://www.soundspectrum.com/g-force/Documentation/customizing.html

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:59:50 +0100, Martin Brown
<|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 16/10/2015 14:47, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:35:31 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Oh, they sayeth, that is absolute proof of (whatever..fill in he blank).

I wrote a little program once that just lights up random pixels on the
screen. If you run that for a while, it's amazing the patterns that
you can see, or think you can see.

After a while it will look like white (or green) cat in a snowstorm
depending on the display screen technology. Flipping the bits randomly
or according to some CA rule gives a more entertaining screen saver.

A friend did a classic 3D test on one of the weaker random number
generators RANDU on the Tek display - the result is now well known:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RANDU

Workstations often use life simulations or related CAs.

All our glass TTYs when they were novel ended up with ">Login:" burned
into the top LHS and likewise repeated faintly every line underneath.

My Panasonic TV annoyingly displays "Screen Saver" at random positions
by default - hardly inspiring.

It's also fun to sum a few random numbers to generate the XY
coordinates, and approximate a Gaussian hill sort of thing.

We have a Rigol waveform generator that has an LCD screen, with
incomprehensible menus, and a screen saver!

It has HELP, but that doesn't make sense either.

LCDs don't need screen savers!

 

On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 11:59:05 AM UTC-4, rickman wrote:

On 10/16/2015 9:59 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 16/10/2015 14:47, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:35:31 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/


After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Oh, they sayeth, that is absolute proof of (whatever..fill in he
blank).

I wrote a little program once that just lights up random pixels on the
screen. If you run that for a while, it's amazing the patterns that
you can see, or think you can see.

After a while it will look like white (or green) cat in a snowstorm
depending on the display screen technology. Flipping the bits randomly
or according to some CA rule gives a more entertaining screen saver.

A friend did a classic 3D test on one of the weaker random number
generators RANDU on the Tek display - the result is now well known:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RANDU

Workstations often use life simulations or related CAs.

All our glass TTYs when they were novel ended up with ">Login:" burned
into the top LHS and likewise repeated faintly every line underneath.

My Panasonic TV annoyingly displays "Screen Saver" at random positions
by default - hardly inspiring.

Care to share what CA stands for?

--

Rick

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_algorithm

 

[rickman]

On 10/16/2015 9:59 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

On 16/10/2015 14:47, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:35:31 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/


After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Oh, they sayeth, that is absolute proof of (whatever..fill in he
blank).

I wrote a little program once that just lights up random pixels on the
screen. If you run that for a while, it's amazing the patterns that
you can see, or think you can see.

After a while it will look like white (or green) cat in a snowstorm
depending on the display screen technology. Flipping the bits randomly
or according to some CA rule gives a more entertaining screen saver.

A friend did a classic 3D test on one of the weaker random number
generators RANDU on the Tek display - the result is now well known:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RANDU

Workstations often use life simulations or related CAs.

All our glass TTYs when they were novel ended up with ">Login:" burned
into the top LHS and likewise repeated faintly every line underneath.

My Panasonic TV annoyingly displays "Screen Saver" at random positions
by default - hardly inspiring.

Care to share what CA stands for?

--

Rick

 

[rickman]

On 10/16/2015 12:27 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

Den fredag den 16. oktober 2015 kl. 17.59.05 UTC+2 skrev rickman:
On 10/16/2015 9:59 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 16/10/2015 14:47, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:35:31 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:55:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/


After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

BTW, The first frost of the east coast is pretty much on time.


Oh, they sayeth, that is absolute proof of (whatever..fill in he
blank).

I wrote a little program once that just lights up random pixels on the
screen. If you run that for a while, it's amazing the patterns that
you can see, or think you can see.

After a while it will look like white (or green) cat in a snowstorm
depending on the display screen technology. Flipping the bits randomly
or according to some CA rule gives a more entertaining screen saver.

A friend did a classic 3D test on one of the weaker random number
generators RANDU on the Tek display - the result is now well known:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RANDU

Workstations often use life simulations or related CAs.

All our glass TTYs when they were novel ended up with ">Login:" burned
into the top LHS and likewise repeated faintly every line underneath.

My Panasonic TV annoyingly displays "Screen Saver" at random positions
by default - hardly inspiring.

Care to share what CA stands for?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton

?

IKYTISHKYA BTAOAC

--

Rick

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:32:37 -0700, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?



Hmmm...this guy SITS on a seal,and possibly killing it (how can it
breathe properly), and say that the clubbers did the dirty deed?
One could argue that the clubbers "saved" the seal.

Do seals go to heaven?

If one is going to one extreme (his) then one could take the opposite...

And he rattles on essentially praising to the sky (heavens? with
crystal sphere and all that) the benefits of excess CO2.

Not excess, certainly by past history, like 8000 PPM or so, every
river running free fizzy water. But "enough." The longterm threat to
life on Earth is running out of CO2, not having too much. Earth
invented humans to dig it up and put it back into circulation.

> Yea, unto the ends of the (flat) earth, may he breath such...

I liked his point about the green revolution, the combination of GM
crops and high CO2 levels that can feed the human population, reduce
the acerage farmed, and green the planet. All things that the greenies
and politicos hate.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, 17 October 2015 01:48:32 UTC+11, mako...@yahoo.com wrote:

What's actually frightening is that a clown who can say "We presume CO2 was at 280 ppm at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, before human activity could have caused a significant impact " gets a public podium.


he was not questioning that point... yes it was 280 ppm

his point is that there are __good__ effects of increasing CO2

Of course there are. The bad effects rather cancel them out.

why don't you refute the logic of the argument instead of calling names

I went for the first obvious bit of blatant misinformation in the article.

It's obvious enough to make it clear that the rest of the stuff has to be a waste of time.

Anthony Watts isn't into publishing stuff that might qualify as good science, so one doesn't have to spend much time finding the Achilles heel, and it would be wasting time to dig out more.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:02:51 -0400, M Philbrook
<jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:

In article <tmp02bdf1rn24rpsnnmb65sbvjspe95fk6@4ax.com>,
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com says...

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

Eat lots of beans!

Jamie

Beans, beans, the musical fruit
The more you eat, the more you toot
The more you toot, the better you feel
That's why I eat beans at every meal

Inky Dinky Parlez Vous >:-}

...Jim Thompson
--
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[M Philbrook]

In article <tmp02bdf1rn24rpsnnmb65sbvjspe95fk6@4ax.com>,
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com says...

This is frightening:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-delivers-powerful-annual-lecture-praises-carbon-dioxide-full-text/

After we dig up and burn all the oil and coal and NG that we can
access, what will we do then to make more CO2?

Eat lots of beans!

Jamie