Do Not Call register now working

[Phil Allison]

** Hi to all my fans ....

Bet you have ALL been waiting for this for years !!!!

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/

You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.


Unfortunately it won't stop 100% of those annoying calls - but will likely
stop most of the telephone spammers.

A new Industry Standard requires callers ( in the excluded categories) to
identify themselves and NOT use numbers that are blocked to Caller ID.

See:

http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD//pc=PC_100642




........ Phil

 

[Don McKenzie]

Phil Allison wrote:

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/

You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.

Was slow yesterday, took me an hour to register.
Site was overloaded a couple of times, and actually displayed an
appropriate notice.

Is going to be popular for a while.
Yes, I know about the negatives, a pity they couldn't be a lot tougher.

Don...



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[Bob Parker]

On 4/05/2007 16:08 Don McKenzie wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/


You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.

Was slow yesterday, took me an hour to register.
Site was overloaded a couple of times, and actually displayed an
appropriate notice.

Is going to be popular for a while.
Yes, I know about the negatives, a pity they couldn't be a lot tougher.

Don...

I went through the registration process yesterday after multiple
attempts to connect to the site, only to get an error message when I
sent my details. All the symptoms of an overloaded server. Did it again
late last night with no problems.
I agree - I don't want *any* unsolicited phone calls either. We pay
for our phone (and internet) services to get messages from people we
know and want to hear from, not spammers of every kind. Doesn't work out
in practise, does it? :-(


Bob

 

[swanny]

Bob Parker wrote:

On 4/05/2007 16:08 Don McKenzie wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/


You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.

Was slow yesterday, took me an hour to register.
Site was overloaded a couple of times, and actually displayed an
appropriate notice.

Is going to be popular for a while.
Yes, I know about the negatives, a pity they couldn't be a lot tougher.

Don...

I went through the registration process yesterday after multiple
attempts to connect to the site, only to get an error message when I
sent my details. All the symptoms of an overloaded server. Did it again
late last night with no problems.
I agree - I don't want *any* unsolicited phone calls either. We pay
for our phone (and internet) services to get messages from people we
know and want to hear from, not spammers of every kind. Doesn't work out
in practise, does it? :-(


Bob

It would have been a better idea to set up a 'Do Call' register.
I'm sure there would have not been any chance of server overloading then ...

 

[Bob Parker]

On 4/05/2007 17:22 swanny wrote:

Bob Parker wrote:
On 4/05/2007 16:08 Don McKenzie wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/


You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.
Was slow yesterday, took me an hour to register.
Site was overloaded a couple of times, and actually displayed an
appropriate notice.

Is going to be popular for a while.
Yes, I know about the negatives, a pity they couldn't be a lot tougher.

Don...
I went through the registration process yesterday after multiple
attempts to connect to the site, only to get an error message when I
sent my details. All the symptoms of an overloaded server. Did it again
late last night with no problems.
I agree - I don't want *any* unsolicited phone calls either. We pay
for our phone (and internet) services to get messages from people we
know and want to hear from, not spammers of every kind. Doesn't work out
in practise, does it? :-(


Bob

It would have been a better idea to set up a 'Do Call' register.
I'm sure there would have not been any chance of server overloading then ...

It wouldn't matter even if it didn't exist ... no-one would use it!

 

Thanks for that Phil, much appreciated.
Let's give 'em curry. Oops! thay probably already have enough of
that

 

[Two Bob]

** Hi to all my fans ....
LOL

Bet you have ALL been waiting for this for years !!!!

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/

You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.


Unfortunately it won't stop 100% of those annoying calls - but will
likely stop most of the telephone spammers.

Easily beaten by the major companies. Just form a company in India and spam
from there. When they try to fine them, they say it was an overseas company
who called. Fat chance of getting them.

A new Industry Standard requires callers ( in the excluded categories) to
identify themselves and NOT use numbers that are blocked to Caller ID.

See:

http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD//pc=PC_100642




....... Phil

 

[Poxy]

swanny wrote:

Bob Parker wrote:
On 4/05/2007 16:08 Don McKenzie wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set
up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/


You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.

Was slow yesterday, took me an hour to register.
Site was overloaded a couple of times, and actually displayed an
appropriate notice.

Is going to be popular for a while.
Yes, I know about the negatives, a pity they couldn't be a lot
tougher.

Don...

I went through the registration process yesterday after multiple
attempts to connect to the site, only to get an error message when I
sent my details. All the symptoms of an overloaded server. Did it
again late last night with no problems.
I agree - I don't want *any* unsolicited phone calls either. We
pay for our phone (and internet) services to get messages from
people we know and want to hear from, not spammers of every kind.
Doesn't work out in practise, does it? :-(


Bob

It would have been a better idea to set up a 'Do Call' register.
I'm sure there would have not been any chance of server overloading
then ...

I think that kind of policy is called "anti-business" - a no-no for any
political party.

Note that this does not stop calls from charities & political parties, which
annoys me immensly, as the current reality is that if you donate to a
charity and provide details, it's highly likely they'll then sell your
details to other charities, having been identified as a "payer",
guaranteeing more unsolicited calls from other charities, which in turn
makes me adverse to making charitable donations, which makes for a very dumb
outcome.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Two Bob"

** Hi to all my fans ....
LOL

** ;-)

Bet you have ALL been waiting for this for years !!!!

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/

You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.


Unfortunately it won't stop 100% of those annoying calls - but will
likely stop most of the telephone spammers.

Easily beaten by the major companies. Just form a company in India and
spam from there. When they try to fine them, they say it was an overseas
company who called. Fat chance of getting them.

** No problem there.

Because the overseas call centre is acting on behalf of an Australian
supplier of goods or services - that local supplier is then LIABLE for
heavy fines under the new legislation.



...... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Poxy"

Note that this does not stop calls from charities & political parties,
which annoys me immensly,

** But they must not use a phone number that is blocked to Caller ID.

Haven't you got a display unit ?

You can soon work out what an organisation's number is and ignore it.





........ Phil

 

[kreed]

On May 4, 2:35 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

** Hi to all my fans ....

Bet you have ALL been waiting for this for years !!!!

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_servic...

You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.

Unfortunately it won't stop 100% of those annoying calls - but will likely
stop most of the telephone spammers.

A new Industry Standard requires callers ( in the excluded categories) to
identify themselves and NOT use numbers that are blocked to Caller ID.

See:

http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD//pc=PC_100642

....... Phil

Agreed, its a good start but it doesn't ban calls from charities,
surveys etc.

At very least it should provide people with a separate "do not call"

option to allow/disallow calls from charities. Im sure it helps the
charity too, as people who have stated that they dont want their calls
in the first place, arent likely to donate anything therfore saving
the charity time and money in the call centres.

Its also totally wrong that home based business (or any businesses)

can't join the list. For them, telephone spam is an even worse
nuisance as "time is money" and as well as myself, I know many in
small business who are sick and tired of being interrupted several
times a day by a ringing phone and some piece of filth with private
caller id "wanting to speak to the owner/manager".

On the good side, it bans hiding caller ID;s. This is a pet hate of
mine businesses using "private" number, and I always make sure they
cop abuse from me for doing that.

 

[Kevin Martin]

kreed wrote:

On the good side, it bans hiding caller ID;s. This is a pet hate of
mine businesses using "private" number, and I always make sure they
cop abuse from me for doing that.

Well some one had better get on to Optus, because by default the

"sending number" is blocked. Many like me can't be bothered changing it,
primarily because I refuse to pay the monthly charge to be able to read
the CND on my incoming calls.

--
Regards

Kevin Martin

To reply - delete what is "not required" (Abbrev) from my address.

 

[Bob Parker]

On 4/05/2007 22:15 Phil Allison wrote:

"Poxy"

Note that this does not stop calls from charities & political parties,
which annoys me immensly,


** But they must not use a phone number that is blocked to Caller ID.

Haven't you got a display unit ?

You can soon work out what an organisation's number is and ignore it.


....... Phil

From the ABC News website:

Do Not Call Register attracts 150 people a minute

More than 250,000 people have already signed up to the Government's Do
Not Call Register since it opened yesterday.

The Australian Communications and Media Authority says about 150 people
are registering online every minute.

 

[kreed]

On May 4, 10:15 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

"Poxy"

Note that this does not stop calls from charities & political parties,
which annoys me immensly,

** But they must not use a phone number that is blocked to Caller ID.

Haven't you got a display unit ?

You can soon work out what an organisation's number is and ignore it.

....... Phil

Some small business spam calls always come from the same phone number,
its then easy to add it to your mobile phone contact list as "spam-
phone plan" etc and assign it a different ring so you know from the
ring not to bother to answer it. The most quiet ring sound that you
can find in the phone is good for this !

However there was a call centre last year that was ringing us all the
time selling phone plans and actually showed a caller ID each time !.

According to greypages (when it still worked) the calls originated
from the Sunshine Coast in QLD (no address or subsciber details were
available though). Trouble was, each time they called, the last 3
digits of the number were different (logically as each phone in the
call centre would be on a different line and have a different actual
phone number associated with it - or a different outside line would be
used each time due to how their internal exchange system operates).

Its a lot more difficult to block a range of numbers than a single
number. Its also difficult to remember a lot of these numbers to know
not to answer too.

 

[Poxy]

Phil Allison wrote:

"Poxy"

Note that this does not stop calls from charities & political
parties, which annoys me immensly,


** But they must not use a phone number that is blocked to Caller ID.

Haven't you got a display unit ?

You can soon work out what an organisation's number is and ignore it.

I've got Caller ID, but pretty much all telemarketing calls come up as
"Private Number", which I can't really ignore, as a lot of government
departments also block their number.

My trick is listening for the second or two delay between my answering the
phone and the computer patching the call through to an available call centre
person - generally I've hung up before they pick up the line. The other
gveaway is the noise of the call centre in the background - I just hang up
as soon as I hear this.

 

[Phil Allison]

"kreed"
"Phil Allison"

"Poxy"

Note that this does not stop calls from charities & political parties,
which annoys me immensly,

** But they must not use a phone number that is blocked to Caller ID.

Haven't you got a display unit ?

You can soon work out what an organisation's number is and ignore it.



Some small business spam calls always come from the same phone number,

** The context is "charities and political parties, " - ie the exempt
categories.

However there was a call centre last year that was ringing us all the
time selling phone plans and actually showed a caller ID each time !.

** They will be forced to stop calling any number on the Do Not Call
register by the end of this month.




......... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Poxy the Prick "

Note that this does not stop calls from charities & political
parties, which annoys me immensly,


** But they must not use a phone number that is blocked to Caller ID.

Haven't you got a display unit ?

You can soon work out what an organisation's number is and ignore it.

I've got Caller ID, but pretty much all telemarketing calls ....

** Jesus Christ man - can you fucking read or not ???

What were we just talking about - eh ????????????

**Telemarketing** calls are about to become ILLEGAL to any number on the
Do Not Call register.





......... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"kreed"

A new Industry Standard requires callers ( in the excluded categories) to
identify themselves and NOT use numbers that are blocked to Caller ID.

See:

http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD//pc=PC_100642



Agreed, its a good start but it doesn't ban calls from charities,
surveys etc.

** I just told you that.

At very least it should provide people with a separate "do not call"
option to allow/disallow calls from charities.

** You can us a caller ID unit to avoid them..

You can inform the charity NOT to call you again.

You do not have to do any survey and can ask them NOT to call again.

The new Industry Standard means you will know how to contact them back.

Its also totally wrong that home based business (or any businesses)
can't join the list.

** No it is not.

The direct marketing of goods and services to businesses is part of normal
commerce - has been since phones were invented. The caller already knows
what sort of business it is and may well have supplied them with goods and
services before - or at least has good or services that the business may
well be interested in.

TOTALLY different situation to * cold calling* home phone numbers.



....... Phil

 

[alc]

Phil Allison wrote:

** Hi to all my fans ....

Bet you have ALL been waiting for this for years !!!!

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/

You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.


Unfortunately it won't stop 100% of those annoying calls - but will likely
stop most of the telephone spammers.

A new Industry Standard requires callers ( in the excluded categories) to
identify themselves and NOT use numbers that are blocked to Caller ID.

See:

http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD//pc=PC_100642




....... Phil




Great, registered my mothers phone with no problems & very quick.

Unfortunately, this service is only for private numbers. Business
numbers & FAX numbers cannot register.

I sent an email to their enquiry section regarding combined
business/private numbers. Reply was as follows -

"Unfortunately this legislation does not cover business. However, if you
are not satisfied an alternative would be for you to approach your local
MP and lobby for a similar legislation to cover business."

So back to the drawing board. IF enough people do lobby their local MP,
something may occur. IF no one does any lobbying, stuff all will be done.

Regards,

alc.

 

[Phil Allison]

"alc"

Great, registered my mothers phone with no problems & very quick.
Unfortunately, this service is only for private numbers. Business numbers
& FAX numbers cannot register.

I sent an email to their enquiry section regarding combined
business/private numbers. Reply was as follows -

"Unfortunately this legislation does not cover business. However, if you
are not satisfied an alternative would be for you to approach your local
MP and lobby for a similar legislation to cover business."

So back to the drawing board.

** From the link: https://www.donotcall.gov.au/

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Which numbers can I list on the Do Not Call Register?
You can list your Australian fixed line and mobile numbers on the Do Not
Call Register, provided the numbers are used primarily for private or
domestic purposes.


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....... Phil