\"DIP\" alternatives...

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Don Y

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Are there any alternative products to DIP (TmReg) that
are, perhaps, more durable?
 
On 12/1/20 8:51 PM, Don Y wrote:
Are there any alternative products to DIP (TmReg) that
are, perhaps, more durable?

Something that breaks your potato chip?

Dual Inline Package?

Copenhagen tobacco?

Digital Image Processing?

Ductile Iron Pipe?

Debtor In Possession?

Or maybe

Dynamic IP addressing?

Please advise.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 12/1/2020 7:00 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 12/1/20 8:51 PM, Don Y wrote:
Are there any alternative products to DIP (TmReg) that
are, perhaps, more durable?

Something that breaks your potato chip?

Dual Inline Package?

Copenhagen tobacco?

Digital Image Processing?

Ductile Iron Pipe?

Debtor In Possession?

Or maybe

Dynamic IP addressing?

Please advise.

<https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/51/88/9e51880c733e6ff0d853e5f2c28fd64b.jpg>
 
On 12/1/20 9:12 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 12/1/2020 7:00 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 12/1/20 8:51 PM, Don Y wrote:
Are there any alternative products to DIP (TmReg) that
are, perhaps, more durable?

Something that breaks your potato chip?

Dual Inline Package?

Copenhagen tobacco?

Digital Image Processing?

Ductile Iron Pipe?

Debtor In Possession?

Or maybe

Dynamic IP addressing?

Please advise.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/51/88/9e51880c733e6ff0d853e5f2c28fd64b.jpg

Three layers of heat shrink? Friction tape? Or (gasp) how about the
original steel handles? Steel is relatively durable stuff, or so I hear. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 12/1/2020 7:16 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 12/1/20 9:12 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 12/1/2020 7:00 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Please advise.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/51/88/9e51880c733e6ff0d853e5f2c28fd64b.jpg

Three layers of heat shrink? Friction tape? Or (gasp) how about the original
steel handles? Steel is relatively durable stuff, or so I hear. ;)

Steel is hard and a pretty good conductor!

There\'s a product that is used in the tool&die business to protect
finely machined surfaces against damage as the products are shipped.
It is dispensed in a heated pot (\"DIP\" is used cold).

But, it is intended to be temporary -- you WANT to remove it in order
to \"expose\" the real product.

I don\'t know if there are similar \"heated\" products that are more permanent.

(There\'s a DIP competitor called GRIP -- original name, eh? -- but I\'ve no
first-hand experience with it)
 
On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 9:40:16 PM UTC-5, Don Y wrote:
On 12/1/2020 7:16 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 12/1/20 9:12 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 12/1/2020 7:00 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Please advise.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/51/88/9e51880c733e6ff0d853e5f2c28fd64b.jpg

Three layers of heat shrink? Friction tape? Or (gasp) how about the original
steel handles? Steel is relatively durable stuff, or so I hear. ;)
Steel is hard and a pretty good conductor!

There\'s a product that is used in the tool&die business to protect
finely machined surfaces against damage as the products are shipped.
It is dispensed in a heated pot (\"DIP\" is used cold).

But, it is intended to be temporary -- you WANT to remove it in order
to \"expose\" the real product.

I don\'t know if there are similar \"heated\" products that are more permanent.

(There\'s a DIP competitor called GRIP -- original name, eh? -- but I\'ve no
first-hand experience with it)

lot of duct tape....just a bit uglier.
 
On 12/2/2020 1:28 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 8:02:20 AM UTC-8, Brent Locher wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 9:40:16 PM UTC-5, Don Y wrote:
On 12/1/2020 7:16 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Three layers of heat shrink? Friction tape? Or (gasp) how about the original
steel handles? Steel is relatively durable stuff, or so I hear. ;)

(There\'s a DIP competitor called GRIP -- original name, eh? -- but I\'ve no
first-hand experience with it)

lot of duct tape....just a bit uglier.

There\'s better tapes for this; fusion tape (rubbery self-adhering) makes a good grip,
but attracts dirt. Gaffer tape (good grip, self-sticking) is nearly ideal, as are the
handlebar wrap items at a bicycle shop. I\'ve even seen fiberglass tape with
(polyester?) resin applied; permanent, and insulating, but ugly.

Think of considerably smaller -- more \"delicate\"/precision -- tools.

Many tools are made as crude castings (machined in a followup step) so the
handles are *intended* to be coated, prior to sale. Unfortunately, those
coatings deteriorate with age.

[\"DIP\" is a great solution -- but, is considerably less durable than
the original coating! And, it doesn\'t store well. So, you need to have
several tools needing treatment to make the most of each can]
 
fredag den 4. december 2020 kl. 00.12.43 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/2/2020 1:28 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 8:02:20 AM UTC-8, Brent Locher wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 9:40:16 PM UTC-5, Don Y wrote:
On 12/1/2020 7:16 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Three layers of heat shrink? Friction tape? Or (gasp) how about the original
steel handles? Steel is relatively durable stuff, or so I hear. ;)

(There\'s a DIP competitor called GRIP -- original name, eh? -- but I\'ve no
first-hand experience with it)

lot of duct tape....just a bit uglier.

There\'s better tapes for this; fusion tape (rubbery self-adhering) makes a good grip,
but attracts dirt. Gaffer tape (good grip, self-sticking) is nearly ideal, as are the
handlebar wrap items at a bicycle shop. I\'ve even seen fiberglass tape with
(polyester?) resin applied; permanent, and insulating, but ugly.
Think of considerably smaller -- more \"delicate\"/precision -- tools.

Many tools are made as crude castings (machined in a followup step) so the
handles are *intended* to be coated, prior to sale. Unfortunately, those
coatings deteriorate with age.

[\"DIP\" is a great solution -- but, is considerably less durable than
the original coating! And, it doesn\'t store well. So, you need to have
several tools needing treatment to make the most of each can]

bedliner?
 
On 12/3/2020 4:33 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 4. december 2020 kl. 00.12.43 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:

[\"DIP\" is a great solution -- but, is considerably less durable than
the original coating! And, it doesn\'t store well. So, you need to have
several tools needing treatment to make the most of each can]

bedliner?

Can you *buy* that (in a can, in smallish volumes)?
 
fredag den 4. december 2020 kl. 02.27.58 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/3/2020 4:33 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 4. december 2020 kl. 00.12.43 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:

[\"DIP\" is a great solution -- but, is considerably less durable than
the original coating! And, it doesn\'t store well. So, you need to have
several tools needing treatment to make the most of each can]

bedliner?
Can you *buy* that (in a can, in smallish volumes)?

I don\'t know, check Amazon et. al.
 
On 12/3/2020 6:37 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 4. december 2020 kl. 02.27.58 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/3/2020 4:33 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 4. december 2020 kl. 00.12.43 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:

[\"DIP\" is a great solution -- but, is considerably less durable than
the original coating! And, it doesn\'t store well. So, you need to have
several tools needing treatment to make the most of each can]

bedliner?
Can you *buy* that (in a can, in smallish volumes)?

I don\'t know, check Amazon et. al.

Yes! But, I\'m leary that they all talk about \"texture\"...
given that the truck bed usually is NOT inherently textured,
I suspect that means there are \"lumps\" in the coating (?)

I\'ll order a little of each option (DIP, GRIP, bedliner, etc.)
and see how they each fare. DIP/GRIP seem to target \"dip\"
applications whereas the others may be less viscous, given
how they are intended to be applied.
 
On 12/2/2020 4:25 PM, DemonicTubes wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 6:51:43 PM UTC-7, Don Y wrote:
Are there any alternative products to DIP (TmReg) that
are, perhaps, more durable?

I\'ve used polyurethane products from Smooth-On successfully. The silicones can be good too.

These will be 2-part, so not as convenient, but much more durable.

https://www.smooth-on.com/products/

But there is nothing to suggest they are viscous enough to cling to
a vertical surface. Rather, the applications (the few I\'ve examined)
suggest they are *poured* into a cavity to form a mold, then extracted
once hardened (?).

I will have to research this more carefully. In the short term,
I\'ve got another 150 dozen cookies to bake, this week (cheesecakes
NEXT week), so not really well focused...
 
On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 8:02:20 AM UTC-8, Brent Locher wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 9:40:16 PM UTC-5, Don Y wrote:
On 12/1/2020 7:16 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Three layers of heat shrink? Friction tape? Or (gasp) how about the original
steel handles? Steel is relatively durable stuff, or so I hear. ;)

(There\'s a DIP competitor called GRIP -- original name, eh? -- but I\'ve no
first-hand experience with it)

lot of duct tape....just a bit uglier.

There\'s better tapes for this; fusion tape (rubbery self-adhering) makes a good grip,
but attracts dirt. Gaffer tape (good grip, self-sticking) is nearly ideal, as are the
handlebar wrap items at a bicycle shop. I\'ve even seen fiberglass tape with
(polyester?) resin applied; permanent, and insulating, but ugly.
 
On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 6:51:43 PM UTC-7, Don Y wrote:
Are there any alternative products to DIP (TmReg) that
are, perhaps, more durable?

I\'ve used polyurethane products from Smooth-On successfully. The silicones can be good too.

These will be 2-part, so not as convenient, but much more durable.

https://www.smooth-on.com/products/
 

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