Can someone Clue Me in About Veroboard?

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

I went to the veroboard website
http://www.verotl.com/products/index.cfm?content_id=2424A965-4AF2-433B-9
589A039D35545F5
and found a choice of verious sized boards to choos from. I also went
to the BISCO website, which is their U.S. distribs, but that was useless
because they need a part number, like no catalog whatsoever.

So I'm looking at the URL above, and I don't know which to choose from.
First off, the only VB I've seen was phenolic, not epoxy, so I guess I
want to order some of that, since it's easy to work with. And I know I
want single sided with 0.1" hole spacing. But the SRBP has me stumped,
I've never heard of it before - must be a U.K. term? I found this URL
http://www.plasticshimsandgaskets.co.uk/psg_apps/stage1/srbp.htm
which seems to allude to it being phenolic, but I'm not sure.

So I figured out that the VB # 01-0014 looks like it's a convenient
size, and presumably it's phenolic. Is this a commonly used size? What
_is_ the size that one would find in a store?

I went to BISCO website and searched under Vero for that number, but all
I get is a we're sorry.. can't find it message. This website is useless
because it doesn't give any list to choose from. I went to RSWW and
they showed a list, so I'm guesing that the stripboard is the same as
veroboard. It looks like I'm on the right path, but I haven't been
successful in finding any info about it from their U.S. distrib. Likely
as not, I could probably order from a distrib in the U.K. and get it
with less problems. Thanks for any help.


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[John Fields]

On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:18:34 -0700, "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the
Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:

I went to the veroboard website
http://www.verotl.com/products/index.cfm?content_id=2424A965-4AF2-433B-9
589A039D35545F5
and found a choice of verious sized boards to choos from. I also went
to the BISCO website, which is their U.S. distribs, but that was useless
because they need a part number, like no catalog whatsoever.

So I'm looking at the URL above, and I don't know which to choose from.
First off, the only VB I've seen was phenolic, not epoxy, so I guess I
want to order some of that, since it's easy to work with. And I know I
want single sided with 0.1" hole spacing. But the SRBP has me stumped,
I've never heard of it before - must be a U.K. term? I found this URL
http://www.plasticshimsandgaskets.co.uk/psg_apps/stage1/srbp.htm
which seems to allude to it being phenolic, but I'm not sure.

So I figured out that the VB # 01-0014 looks like it's a convenient
size, and presumably it's phenolic. Is this a commonly used size? What
_is_ the size that one would find in a store?

I went to BISCO website and searched under Vero for that number, but all
I get is a we're sorry.. can't find it message. This website is useless
because it doesn't give any list to choose from. I went to RSWW and
they showed a list, so I'm guesing that the stripboard is the same as
veroboard. It looks like I'm on the right path, but I haven't been
successful in finding any info about it from their U.S. distrib. Likely
as not, I could probably order from a distrib in the U.K. and get it
with less problems. Thanks for any help.

---
Unless you want to use Vero for some peculiar reason, give these guys
a try:

http://www.vectorelect.com/

--
John Fields

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"john jardine" <john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com
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I went to the veroboard website

http://www.verotl.com/products/index.cfm?content_id=2424A965-4AF2-433B-9
589A039D35545F5
and found a choice of verious sized boards to choos from. I also
went
to the BISCO website, which is their U.S. distribs, but that was
useless
because they need a part number, like no catalog whatsoever.

So I'm looking at the URL above, and I don't know which to choose
from.
First off, the only VB I've seen was phenolic, not epoxy, so I guess
I
want to order some of that, since it's easy to work with. And I
know I
want single sided with 0.1" hole spacing. But the SRBP has me
stumped,
I've never heard of it before - must be a U.K. term? I found this
URL
http://www.plasticshimsandgaskets.co.uk/psg_apps/stage1/srbp.htm
which seems to allude to it being phenolic, but I'm not sure.

So I figured out that the VB # 01-0014 looks like it's a convenient
size, and presumably it's phenolic. Is this a commonly used size?
What
_is_ the size that one would find in a store?

I went to BISCO website and searched under Vero for that number, but
all
I get is a we're sorry.. can't find it message. This website is
useless
because it doesn't give any list to choose from. I went to RSWW and
they showed a list, so I'm guesing that the stripboard is the same
as
veroboard. It looks like I'm on the right path, but I haven't been
successful in finding any info about it from their U.S. distrib.
Likely
as not, I could probably order from a distrib in the U.K. and get it
with less problems. Thanks for any help.


Yes, it's the stinky Phenolic paper stuff and that part number quoted
is a
common size.
The stuff I buy (UK) is a bit longer (5" by 12") and stocked by
Farnell as
#147-899. To save waste I tend to build up on one end of the long
strip and
when finished, just snap off to size.
regards
john

Thanks. Figures - tech term. I found several other URLs by searching
for stripboard, but no place other than BISCO that sells it locally.
Some place in Canada seems cheap, but wants a lot for shipping and
handling. I found the above part number at Newark InOne, but they're
out of stock. I'm still looking..

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:18:34 -0700, "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the
Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:

I went to the veroboard website

http://www.verotl.com/products/index.cfm?content_id=2424A965-4AF2-433B-
9
589A039D35545F5
and found a choice of verious sized boards to choos from. I also
went
to the BISCO website, which is their U.S. distribs, but that was
useless
because they need a part number, like no catalog whatsoever.

So I'm looking at the URL above, and I don't know which to choose
from.
First off, the only VB I've seen was phenolic, not epoxy, so I guess
I
want to order some of that, since it's easy to work with. And I know
I
want single sided with 0.1" hole spacing. But the SRBP has me
stumped,
I've never heard of it before - must be a U.K. term? I found this
URL
http://www.plasticshimsandgaskets.co.uk/psg_apps/stage1/srbp.htm
which seems to allude to it being phenolic, but I'm not sure.

So I figured out that the VB # 01-0014 looks like it's a convenient
size, and presumably it's phenolic. Is this a commonly used size?
What
_is_ the size that one would find in a store?

I went to BISCO website and searched under Vero for that number, but
all
I get is a we're sorry.. can't find it message. This website is
useless
because it doesn't give any list to choose from. I went to RSWW and
they showed a list, so I'm guesing that the stripboard is the same as
veroboard. It looks like I'm on the right path, but I haven't been
successful in finding any info about it from their U.S. distrib.
Likely
as not, I could probably order from a distrib in the U.K. and get it
with less problems. Thanks for any help.

---
Unless you want to use Vero for some peculiar reason, give these guys
a try:

http://www.vectorelect.com/

I looked at the patterns on their website and what's in the latest
Mouser catalog, and neither had anything like a veroboard or stripboard.
Thanks.

--
John Fields

 

[john jardine]

"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
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I went to the veroboard website
http://www.verotl.com/products/index.cfm?content_id=2424A965-4AF2-433B-9
589A039D35545F5
and found a choice of verious sized boards to choos from. I also went
to the BISCO website, which is their U.S. distribs, but that was useless
because they need a part number, like no catalog whatsoever.

So I'm looking at the URL above, and I don't know which to choose from.
First off, the only VB I've seen was phenolic, not epoxy, so I guess I
want to order some of that, since it's easy to work with. And I know I
want single sided with 0.1" hole spacing. But the SRBP has me stumped,
I've never heard of it before - must be a U.K. term? I found this URL
http://www.plasticshimsandgaskets.co.uk/psg_apps/stage1/srbp.htm
which seems to allude to it being phenolic, but I'm not sure.

So I figured out that the VB # 01-0014 looks like it's a convenient
size, and presumably it's phenolic. Is this a commonly used size? What
_is_ the size that one would find in a store?

I went to BISCO website and searched under Vero for that number, but all
I get is a we're sorry.. can't find it message. This website is useless
because it doesn't give any list to choose from. I went to RSWW and
they showed a list, so I'm guesing that the stripboard is the same as
veroboard. It looks like I'm on the right path, but I haven't been
successful in finding any info about it from their U.S. distrib. Likely
as not, I could probably order from a distrib in the U.K. and get it
with less problems. Thanks for any help.


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Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
@@t@h@e@@a@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@m@e@e@t@@t@h@e@@E@f@f@l@u@e@n@t@@


Yes, it's the stinky Phenolic paper stuff and that part number quoted is a

common size.
The stuff I buy (UK) is a bit longer (5" by 12") and stocked by Farnell as
#147-899. To save waste I tend to build up on one end of the long strip and
when finished, just snap off to size.
regards
john

 

[Norm Dresner]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:35bul01m70o78pbpcoq42hkmtmnjlbtmi2@4ax.com...

---
Unless you want to use Vero for some peculiar reason, give these guys
a try:

http://www.vectorelect.com/

--

Vero made a wonderful "3"-voltage ground plane perf board that was ideal for
analog prototyping and no one else makes anything like it. [BTW, the "3"
voltages included ground but that's one more than anyone else's bus
structures handle.]

Norm

 

[john jardine]

"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:7n3vl0pmed2s8ml905fbqi4rhogaqonkhs@4ax.com...

I use Veroboard for virtually all my projects. Like John J, I buy
large sizes, for economy and flexibility. (Not sure what you mean by
'snap off' though, John - I use a saw <g>.)

It's widely available in UK. I get mine from either Rapid Electronics

http://www.rapidelectronics.co.uk/rkmain.asp?PAGEID=80010&CTL_CAT_CODE=&STK_

PROD_CODE=M29453&XPAGENO=1

http://tinyurl.com/5xnn9

or CPC

http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CPC+Catalogue&cate

gory%5Fname=&product%5Fid=263334

http://tinyurl.com/6rtl9

--
Terry Pinnell
Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK

Saw!. Sounds like dusty work. I've found I can run the scalpel (type 11a

blade) across the track side row of holes and then gently bend the board it
it's edge. It's a bit like cutting glass. The scalpel line provided a high
stress point and that's where the board'll part. Also use the scalpel for
track cutting.

(Gloat! ... but if I'm ever wanting "really neat" (a strange rare event),
I'll cut the Vero etc to size using the Ł120 Axminster sheet metal
guillotine
regards
john

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"john jardine" <john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cjovir$c9e$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...

"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:7n3vl0pmed2s8ml905fbqi4rhogaqonkhs@4ax.com...
I use Veroboard for virtually all my projects. Like John J, I buy
large sizes, for economy and flexibility. (Not sure what you mean by
'snap off' though, John - I use a saw <g>.)

It's widely available in UK. I get mine from either Rapid
Electronics


http://www.rapidelectronics.co.uk/rkmain.asp?PAGEID=80010&CTL_CAT_CODE=&

STK_

PROD_CODE=M29453&XPAGENO=1
http://tinyurl.com/5xnn9

or CPC


http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CPC+Catalogue&

cate

gory%5Fname=&product%5Fid=263334
http://tinyurl.com/6rtl9

--
Terry Pinnell
Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK

Saw!. Sounds like dusty work. I've found I can run the scalpel (type
11a
blade) across the track side row of holes and then gently bend the
board it
it's edge. It's a bit like cutting glass. The scalpel line provided a
high
stress point and that's where the board'll part. Also use the scalpel
for
track cutting.

I still haven't found a site where I can buy it. Newark is out of the
Newark part no 08WX7693 which is Kelan 147-899, which is about 5" by
12", single sided with 0.1" hole spacing. BISCO website, I couldn't get
any part numbers for Veroboard.

I sure wish I could get you to read and learn this:
<<
It's is a contraction for "it is" and its is possessive. ...
If you've been paying attention to the above examples, you've noticed
that possessive pronouns never use apostrophes. Its, whose, your, yours,
their, theirs...

and this:

<<
Most common pronouns, however, never use apostrophes to indicate
possession:

Correct: That is his ball. I will not sacrifice its life.
WRONG: That is his' ball. I will not sacrifice it's life.

I enjoy reading your posts, but you're continually missing a simple rule

that's so easy to remember. Thanks for the info.
[snip]

regards
john

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

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"john jardine" <john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in
message
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I use Veroboard for virtually all my projects. Like John J, I buy
large sizes, for economy and flexibility. (Not sure what you mean
by
'snap off' though, John - I use a saw <g>.)

It's widely available in UK. I get mine from either Rapid
Electronics



http://www.rapidelectronics.co.uk/rkmain.asp?PAGEID=80010&CTL_CAT_CODE=&
STK_
PROD_CODE=M29453&XPAGENO=1
http://tinyurl.com/5xnn9

or CPC



http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CPC+Catalogue&
cate
gory%5Fname=&product%5Fid=263334
http://tinyurl.com/6rtl9

--
Terry Pinnell
Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK

Saw!. Sounds like dusty work. I've found I can run the scalpel
(type
11a
blade) across the track side row of holes and then gently bend the
board it
it's edge. It's a bit like cutting glass. The scalpel line provided
a
high
stress point and that's where the board'll part. Also use the
scalpel
for
track cutting.

I still haven't found a site where I can buy it. Newark is out of the
Newark part no 08WX7693 which is Kelan 147-899, which is about 5" by
12", single sided with 0.1" hole spacing. BISCO website, I couldn't
get
any part numbers for Veroboard.

I got on Futurlec and found that they had the larger appx 4" square
stripboards for $2 and the smaller 2"x4" for a dollar. So I ordered
fifty buck's worth. Should arrive in a week or so.
That should last for awhile. ;-)

http://www.futurlec.com/ProtoBoards.shtml

Thanks for everyones' help.

I sure wish I could get you to read and learn this:

It's is a contraction for "it is" and its is possessive. ...
If you've been paying attention to the above examples, you've noticed
that possessive pronouns never use apostrophes. Its, whose, your,
yours,
their, theirs...

and this:

Most common pronouns, however, never use apostrophes to indicate
possession:

Correct: That is his ball. I will not sacrifice its life.
WRONG: That is his' ball. I will not sacrifice it's life.

I enjoy reading your posts, but you're continually missing a simple
rule
that's so easy to remember. Thanks for the info.
[snip]
regards
john

 

[john jardine]

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"john jardine" <john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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[-]

I sure wish I could get you to read and learn this:

It's is a contraction for "it is" and its is possessive. ...
If you've been paying attention to the above examples, you've noticed
that possessive pronouns never use apostrophes. Its, whose, your, yours,
their, theirs...

and this:

Most common pronouns, however, never use apostrophes to indicate
possession:

Correct: That is his ball. I will not sacrifice its life.
WRONG: That is his' ball. I will not sacrifice it's life.

I enjoy reading your posts, but you're continually missing a simple rule
that's so easy to remember. Thanks for the info.
[snip]
regards
john


I'm caught bang to rights guv'. Point accepted graciously, will try to do a

little better next time, may even try an occasional spell check. :-(
I do admit though to near zero literary skills, hence my prime focus is in
just laying the comments down in some kind of orderly and (hopefully) linear
manner.
A moments distraction on my part can result in typing gibberish. Evidenced
in a post last year, I managed to reverse an entire sentence, only to be
saved from the pit of eternal damnation by the very flexible, forgiving
nature of the English language.
(I still though, reserve the right to use English English and to salt in
f****ng expletives.)

As a general comment ... there seems to me a number of people here, who
have a real intuitive feeling for the written word. An example last week I
was reading, was some well written notes by a Clifford Heath. Being curious,
I wondered if the 'writing' ability (like many other skills) can be
aquired by lots and lots of practice. Looking at a letter I'd written
earlier in the day, I knew it couldn't. Some lucky b*****ds are just born
with it
regards
john

 

[Vaughn]

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"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote:

I went to the veroboard website

http://www.verotl.com/products/index.cfm?content_id=2424A965-4AF2-433B-9
589A039D35545F5
and found a choice of verious sized boards to choos from. I also
went
to the BISCO website, which is their U.S. distribs, but that was
useless
because they need a part number, like no catalog whatsoever.

According to the Bisco website - they aren't a distributor for Vero
( or APW
).

Vero were bought by APW a few yrs back

http://www.apw.com/aboutAPW/sales/electronicSolutions.jsp

Maybe the California office can help ?


So I'm looking at the URL above, and I don't know which to choose
from.
First off, the only VB I've seen was phenolic, not epoxy, so I guess
I
want to order some of that, since it's easy to work with. And I
know I
want single sided with 0.1" hole spacing. But the SRBP has me
stumped,
I've never heard of it before - must be a U.K. term?

Synthetic resin bonded paper - awful stuff !

They make it in epoxy too which is much nicer.


I found this URL
http://www.plasticshimsandgaskets.co.uk/psg_apps/stage1/srbp.htm
which seems to allude to it being phenolic, but I'm not sure.

So I figured out that the VB # 01-0014 looks like it's a convenient
size, and presumably it's phenolic. Is this a commonly used size?

Dimensions look familiar.

What _is_ the size that one would find in a store?

When hobbyist stores still existed here chances were that they kept
the
smaller panels. Not many ppl need 1/2 a metre of the stuff.

I guess small is relative, but the ones I saw on the websites were 17"
long, nearly a half meter long. So I figured that the commonly used
ones were smaller than that, like 4" by 6" (10 by 16 mm) or so.

I know its got to be a typo, but 4" x 6" == 101.6 x 152.4 mm == 10 x 15 cm

Aprox.

I have a thing with measurements, and numbers, guess you can all damn my
literacy, and punctuation though.

Like I said sure its a typo.

Cheers Vaughn

 

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"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote:

I went to the veroboard website


http://www.verotl.com/products/index.cfm?content_id=2424A965-4AF2-433B-9
589A039D35545F5
and found a choice of verious sized boards to choos from. I
also
went
to the BISCO website, which is their U.S. distribs, but that was
useless
because they need a part number, like no catalog whatsoever.

According to the Bisco website - they aren't a distributor for
Vero
( or APW
).

Vero were bought by APW a few yrs back

http://www.apw.com/aboutAPW/sales/electronicSolutions.jsp

Maybe the California office can help ?


So I'm looking at the URL above, and I don't know which to
choose
from.
First off, the only VB I've seen was phenolic, not epoxy, so I
guess
I
want to order some of that, since it's easy to work with. And I
know I
want single sided with 0.1" hole spacing. But the SRBP has me
stumped,
I've never heard of it before - must be a U.K. term?

Synthetic resin bonded paper - awful stuff !

They make it in epoxy too which is much nicer.


I found this URL
http://www.plasticshimsandgaskets.co.uk/psg_apps/stage1/srbp.htm
which seems to allude to it being phenolic, but I'm not sure.

So I figured out that the VB # 01-0014 looks like it's a
convenient
size, and presumably it's phenolic. Is this a commonly used
size?

Dimensions look familiar.

What _is_ the size that one would find in a store?

When hobbyist stores still existed here chances were that they
kept
the
smaller panels. Not many ppl need 1/2 a metre of the stuff.

I guess small is relative, but the ones I saw on the websites were
17"
long, nearly a half meter long. So I figured that the commonly used
ones were smaller than that, like 4" by 6" (10 by 16 mm) or so.

I know its got to be a typo, but 4" x 6" == 101.6 x 152.4 mm == 10 x
15 cm
Aprox.

I have a thing with measurements, and numbers, guess you can all damn
my
literacy, and punctuation though.

I'm not all that literate with metric, because it's not my native
system. ;-) So yeah, I goofed.

Like I said sure its a typo.

Punctuation? s/b it's, above. Spelling? Aprox -> Approx...

Cheers Vaughn