Billiard tricks... how? (OT)

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Bruce Varley

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Hi, There are some movies around of spectacular billiards tricks. Some look
too good to be true, and I wonder whether there's some surreptitious
technology in the background. You can imagine balls with a conductive
centre, and linear motor type coils embedded under the table top guiding the
shots on their desired trajectories. If you made a matrix across the whole
surface you could program the routine. Does anyone have any information on
this being done? Google just lists lots of astounding feats.
 
On Aug 25, 8:02 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi, There are some movies around of spectacular billiards tricks. Some look
too good to be true, and I wonder whether there's some surreptitious
technology in the background. You can imagine balls with a conductive
centre, and linear motor type coils embedded under the table top guiding the
shots on their desired trajectories. If you made a matrix across the whole
surface you could program the routine. Does anyone have any information on
this being done?
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Yep, it's called practice and talent. Also, they often use special
cue's designed for such "Masse" tricks.
Try here for more info:
http://www.ericyow.com/yowmasse.html

Dave.
 
David L. Jones wrote:
On Aug 25, 8:02 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi, There are some movies around of spectacular billiards tricks. Some look
too good to be true, and I wonder whether there's some surreptitious
technology in the background. You can imagine balls with a conductive
centre, and linear motor type coils embedded under the table top guiding the
shots on their desired trajectories. If you made a matrix across the whole
surface you could program the routine. Does anyone have any information on
this being done?

Yep, it's called practice and talent. Also, they often use special
cue's designed for such "Masse" tricks.
Try here for more info:
http://www.ericyow.com/yowmasse.html

Dave.
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Australian + Billiard Tricks = Walter Lindrum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Lindrum

Walter Lindrum was the reason many young men took up billiards when
they entered the grown ups world, as I did in the late 50's. Seemed to
be a Billiard Parlor in every suburb in those days.

Don...



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On Aug 25, 8:02 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi, There are some movies around of spectacular billiards tricks. Some
look
too good to be true, and I wonder whether there's some surreptitious
technology in the background. You can imagine balls with a conductive
centre, and linear motor type coils embedded under the table top guiding
the
shots on their desired trajectories. If you made a matrix across the
whole
surface you could program the routine. Does anyone have any information
on
this being done?

Yep, it's called practice and talent. Also, they often use special
cue's designed for such "Masse" tricks.
Try here for more info:
http://www.ericyow.com/yowmasse.html

Dave.
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Yes, I agree. The things on that site are real talent and skill. But have
you seen some of the movies doing the rounds at the moment? Potting 6 or
more balls from second or third rebounds off one shot. Flipping a ball off
the table into the air, which hits another ball on a pedestal, which then
drops back onto the felt and sinks multiple balls from a cluster, without
missing one. No way. Particularly if they're doing this repeatedly, there
has to be something behind the scenes.
 
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"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 25, 8:02 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi, There are some movies around of spectacular billiards tricks. Some
look
too good to be true, and I wonder whether there's some surreptitious
technology in the background. You can imagine balls with a conductive
centre, and linear motor type coils embedded under the table top guiding
the
shots on their desired trajectories. If you made a matrix across the
whole
surface you could program the routine. Does anyone have any information
on
this being done?

Yep, it's called practice and talent. Also, they often use special
cue's designed for such "Masse" tricks.
Try here for more info:
http://www.ericyow.com/yowmasse.html

Dave.

Yes, I agree. The things on that site are real talent and skill. But have
you seen some of the movies doing the rounds at the moment? Potting 6 or
more balls from second or third rebounds off one shot. Flipping a ball off
the table into the air, which hits another ball on a pedestal, which then
drops back onto the felt and sinks multiple balls from a cluster, without
missing one. No way. Particularly if they're doing this repeatedly, there
has to be something behind the scenes.

Geez, if they tell ya they gotta kill ya !
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Somethings are better not known by us humans.
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Cheers .......... Rheilly P
 
On Aug 29, 10:29 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1188136223.267306.40990@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...



On Aug 25, 8:02 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi, There are some movies around of spectacular billiards tricks. Some
look
too good to be true, and I wonder whether there's some surreptitious
technology in the background. You can imagine balls with a conductive
centre, and linear motor type coils embedded under the table top guiding
the
shots on their desired trajectories. If you made a matrix across the
whole
surface you could program the routine. Does anyone have any information
on
this being done?

Yep, it's called practice and talent. Also, they often use special
cue's designed for such "Masse" tricks.
Try here for more info:
http://www.ericyow.com/yowmasse.html

Dave.

Yes, I agree. The things on that site are real talent and skill. But have
you seen some of the movies doing the rounds at the moment? Potting 6 or
more balls from second or third rebounds off one shot. Flipping a ball off
the table into the air, which hits another ball on a pedestal, which then
drops back onto the felt and sinks multiple balls from a cluster, without
missing one. No way. Particularly if they're doing this repeatedly, there
has to be something behind the scenes.
Click to expand...
How about you point us to these videos?
You do realise that they miss these shots more times than they make
them? Only the ones that come off make it into the videos. They aren't
doing it repeatedly.
Never say "no way", some people are just very very good and have lots
of time to devote to getting tricks like this working.
Perhaps there are "fake" ones out there, but I have not seen them.

I can flip a ball off a table and hit a target, and I suck at
billiards. The rest is just a matter of scale.

Dave.
 
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 29, 10:29 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
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On Aug 25, 8:02 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi, There are some movies around of spectacular billiards tricks.
Some
look
too good to be true, and I wonder whether there's some surreptitious
technology in the background. You can imagine balls with a conductive
centre, and linear motor type coils embedded under the table top
guiding
the
shots on their desired trajectories. If you made a matrix across the
whole
surface you could program the routine. Does anyone have any
information
on
this being done?

Yep, it's called practice and talent. Also, they often use special
cue's designed for such "Masse" tricks.
Try here for more info:
http://www.ericyow.com/yowmasse.html

Dave.

Yes, I agree. The things on that site are real talent and skill. But have
you seen some of the movies doing the rounds at the moment? Potting 6 or
more balls from second or third rebounds off one shot. Flipping a ball
off
the table into the air, which hits another ball on a pedestal, which then
drops back onto the felt and sinks multiple balls from a cluster, without
missing one. No way. Particularly if they're doing this repeatedly, there
has to be something behind the scenes.

How about you point us to these videos?
Sorry, they're all .WMV files sent to me. If someone can tell me how to post
Click to expand...
them somewhere, happy to oblige.

You do realise that they miss these shots more times than they make
them? Only the ones that come off make it into the videos. They aren't
doing it repeatedly.
Never say "no way", some people are just very very good and have lots
of time to devote to getting tricks like this working.
Perhaps there are "fake" ones out there, but I have not seen them.

I can flip a ball off a table and hit a target, and I suck at
billiards. The rest is just a matter of scale.

Dave.
Click to expand...
 
On Aug 30, 10:24 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1188422844.059200.282560@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

On Aug 29, 10:29 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1188136223.267306.40990@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

On Aug 25, 8:02 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi, There are some movies around of spectacular billiards tricks.
Some
look
too good to be true, and I wonder whether there's some surreptitious
technology in the background. You can imagine balls with a conductive
centre, and linear motor type coils embedded under the table top
guiding
the
shots on their desired trajectories. If you made a matrix across the
whole
surface you could program the routine. Does anyone have any
information
on
this being done?

Yep, it's called practice and talent. Also, they often use special
cue's designed for such "Masse" tricks.
Try here for more info:
http://www.ericyow.com/yowmasse.html

Dave.

Yes, I agree. The things on that site are real talent and skill. But have
you seen some of the movies doing the rounds at the moment? Potting 6 or
more balls from second or third rebounds off one shot. Flipping a ball
off
the table into the air, which hits another ball on a pedestal, which then
drops back onto the felt and sinks multiple balls from a cluster, without
missing one. No way. Particularly if they're doing this repeatedly, there
has to be something behind the scenes.

How about you point us to these videos?

Sorry, they're all .WMV files sent to me. If someone can tell me how to post
them somewhere, happy to oblige.
Click to expand...
http://www.youtube.com
http://video.google.com.au/

and I'm sure there are dozens of others.

Alternatively, if they aren't too big, email them to me (one by one)
and I can post them on my web host.

Dave.
 
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 30, 10:24 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1188422844.059200.282560@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

On Aug 29, 10:29 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1188136223.267306.40990@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

On Aug 25, 8:02 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi, There are some movies around of spectacular billiards tricks.
Some
look
too good to be true, and I wonder whether there's some
surreptitious
technology in the background. You can imagine balls with a
conductive
centre, and linear motor type coils embedded under the table top
guiding
the
shots on their desired trajectories. If you made a matrix across
the
whole
surface you could program the routine. Does anyone have any
information
on
this being done?

Yep, it's called practice and talent. Also, they often use special
cue's designed for such "Masse" tricks.
Try here for more info:
http://www.ericyow.com/yowmasse.html

Dave.

Yes, I agree. The things on that site are real talent and skill. But
have
you seen some of the movies doing the rounds at the moment? Potting 6
or
more balls from second or third rebounds off one shot. Flipping a ball
off
the table into the air, which hits another ball on a pedestal, which
then
drops back onto the felt and sinks multiple balls from a cluster,
without
missing one. No way. Particularly if they're doing this repeatedly,
there
has to be something behind the scenes.

How about you point us to these videos?

Sorry, they're all .WMV files sent to me. If someone can tell me how to
post
them somewhere, happy to oblige.

http://www.youtube.com
http://video.google.com.au/

and I'm sure there are dozens of others.

Alternatively, if they aren't too big, email them to me (one by one)
and I can post them on my web host.

Dave.

Search in youtube: oreidasinuca.
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On Sep 1, 9:31 pm, "Bruce Varley" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in > Search in youtube: oreidasinuca.
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Sorry to tell you, they are all for real.

All the classic trick shots are there. The Masse curve ball, the coin
in the glass, the balancing bottle (which I've seen done with other
objects as well), the fast shoot, the curved domino effect etc. I've
seen plenty of others do these same shots.

You do these the same way you get to Carnegie Hall - practice,
practice, practice.

Dave.
 
Sorry to tell you, they are all for real.
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Well, most of them anyway. You may remember Ian Anderson - I think he
appeared on "Pot Black" at some stage. He gave a demonstration of trick
shots at our club in the 70s. One involved potting two reds in a
seemingly impossible way. After the shot was made and we all scratched
out heads, Ian pulled the two reds out of the centre pocket and showed
them to us. They were glued together!! His other tricks shots were
genuine though.

Alan
 
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