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http://www.centameter.com.au/products.htm
In particular, what their accuracy is at low power levels,less than 50
watts.
The tech specs on the units seem very vague about this.
Wow, you're not wrong!"Mauried"
http://www.centameter.com.au/products.htm
In particular, what their accuracy is at low power levels,less than 50
watts.
The tech specs on the units seem very vague about this.
** The specs are damn vague about everything - and deliberately so.
Here is the user manual:
http://www.clipsal.com/trade/__data/page/81/W624.pdf
What is clear is that the device is NOT a power OR energy consumption
meter at all - as it only detects the line current and assumes the supply
is 240 volts.
There is no spec for accuracy below 1 amp current !!!!
The unit measures in VA and not power.
Wot a POS.
**Just like that ridiculous LED streetlight last year. It seems that TheOn Aug 26, 1:26 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
"Mauried"
http://www.centameter.com.au/products.htm
In particular, what their accuracy is at low power levels,less than 50
watts.
The tech specs on the units seem very vague about this.
** The specs are damn vague about everything - and deliberately so.
Here is the user manual:
http://www.clipsal.com/trade/__data/page/81/W624.pdf
What is clear is that the device is NOT a power OR energy consumption
meter at all - as it only detects the line current and assumes the
supply
is 240 volts.
There is no spec for accuracy below 1 amp current !!!!
The unit measures in VA and not power.
Wot a POS.
Wow, you're not wrong!
I heard this thing wasn't that greatest, but geeze...
Didn't this thing win on new inventors many years back? :-
m...On Aug 26, 5:04 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:376a3783-1dab-47d3-b773-ed5fca548c8d@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.co
On Aug 26, 1:26 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
"Mauried"
http://www.centameter.com.au/products.htm
In particular, what their accuracy is at low power levels,less than
50
watts.
The tech specs on the units seem very vague about this.
** The specs are damn vague about everything - and deliberately so.
Here is the user manual:
http://www.clipsal.com/trade/__data/page/81/W624.pdf
What is clear is that the device is NOT a power OR energy
consumption
meter at all - as it only detects the line current and assumes the
supply
is 240 volts.
There is no spec for accuracy below 1 amp current !!!!
The unit measures in VA and not power.
Wot a POS.
Wow, you're not wrong!
I heard this thing wasn't that greatest, but geeze...
Didn't this thing win on new inventors many years back? :-
**Just like that ridiculous LED streetlight last year. It seems that The
Inventors don't ask too many questions about the veracity of the claims.
They have had some howlers. No one ever gets a hammering on the show.
The Protex safety device springs to mind, it was much discussed on
here at the time.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s1356442.htm
I liked that Dragon's Den inventors show much better, they weren't
afraid to stick it to'em if the product was shite.
Dave.
They have had some howlers. No one ever gets a hammering on the show."David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:376a3783-1dab-47d3-b773-ed5fca548c8d@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 26, 1:26 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
"Mauried"
http://www.centameter.com.au/products.htm
In particular, what their accuracy is at low power levels,less than 50
watts.
The tech specs on the units seem very vague about this.
** The specs are damn vague about everything - and deliberately so.
Here is the user manual:
http://www.clipsal.com/trade/__data/page/81/W624.pdf
What is clear is that the device is NOT a power OR energy consumption
meter at all - as it only detects the line current and assumes the
supply
is 240 volts.
There is no spec for accuracy below 1 amp current !!!!
The unit measures in VA and not power.
Wot a POS.
Wow, you're not wrong!
I heard this thing wasn't that greatest, but geeze...
Didn't this thing win on new inventors many years back? :-
**Just like that ridiculous LED streetlight last year. It seems that The
Inventors don't ask too many questions about the veracity of the claims.
The device did sound a bit dodgy.I have been told that you need to replace the battery in the sensor nearly
once a month which is a complete pain.
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ea1f43d-245e-4e0d-b6a4-92a805c7f59f@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 26, 5:04 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:376a3783-1dab-47d3-b773-ed5fca548c8d@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.co
m...
On Aug 26, 1:26 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
"Mauried"
http://www.centameter.com.au/products.htm
In particular, what their accuracy is at low power levels,less than
50
watts.
The tech specs on the units seem very vague about this.
** The specs are damn vague about everything - and deliberately so.
Here is the user manual:
http://www.clipsal.com/trade/__data/page/81/W624.pdf
What is clear is that the device is NOT a power OR energy
consumption
meter at all - as it only detects the line current and assumes the
supply
is 240 volts.
There is no spec for accuracy below 1 amp current !!!!
The unit measures in VA and not power.
Wot a POS.
Wow, you're not wrong!
I heard this thing wasn't that greatest, but geeze...
Didn't this thing win on new inventors many years back? :-
**Just like that ridiculous LED streetlight last year. It seems that The
Inventors don't ask too many questions about the veracity of the claims.
They have had some howlers. No one ever gets a hammering on the show.
The Protex safety device springs to mind, it was much discussed on
here at the time.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s1356442.htm
I liked that Dragon's Den inventors show much better, they weren't
afraid to stick it to'em if the product was shite.
Dave.
Thanks all.
**What a pathetic lie. SOME of the panel DO have some expertise in someOn Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:36:46 +1000, "Bodgey" <ihate@spam.com> wrote:
I have been told that you need to replace the battery in the sensor nearly
once a month which is a complete pain.
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ea1f43d-245e-4e0d-b6a4-92a805c7f59f@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 26, 5:04 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:376a3783-1dab-47d3-b773-ed5fca548c8d@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.co
m...
On Aug 26, 1:26 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
"Mauried"
http://www.centameter.com.au/products.htm
In particular, what their accuracy is at low power levels,less
than
50
watts.
The tech specs on the units seem very vague about this.
** The specs are damn vague about everything - and deliberately
so.
Here is the user manual:
http://www.clipsal.com/trade/__data/page/81/W624.pdf
What is clear is that the device is NOT a power OR energy
consumption
meter at all - as it only detects the line current and assumes the
supply
is 240 volts.
There is no spec for accuracy below 1 amp current !!!!
The unit measures in VA and not power.
Wot a POS.
Wow, you're not wrong!
I heard this thing wasn't that greatest, but geeze...
Didn't this thing win on new inventors many years back? :-
**Just like that ridiculous LED streetlight last year. It seems that
The
Inventors don't ask too many questions about the veracity of the
claims.
They have had some howlers. No one ever gets a hammering on the show.
The Protex safety device springs to mind, it was much discussed on
here at the time.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s1356442.htm
I liked that Dragon's Den inventors show much better, they weren't
afraid to stick it to'em if the product was shite.
Dave.
Thanks all.
The device did sound a bit dodgy.
The biggest problem with the Inventors show is the panel.
Some ppl who actually know something would help.
Thanks all.
The device did sound a bit dodgy.
The biggest problem with the Inventors show is the panel.
Some ppl who actually know something would help.
I agree that some of the panel do appear to have some expertise, but"Mauried" <maur...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:48b47bca.636937@news.tpg.com.au...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:36:46 +1000, "Bodgey" <ih...@spam.com> wrote:
I have been told that you need to replace the battery in the sensor nearly
once a month which is a complete pain.
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ea1f43d-245e-4e0d-b6a4-92a805c7f59f@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 26, 5:04 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:376a3783-1dab-47d3-b773-ed5fca548c8d@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.co
m...
On Aug 26, 1:26 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
"Mauried"
http://www.centameter.com.au/products.htm
In particular, what their accuracy is at low power levels,less
than
50
watts.
The tech specs on the units seem very vague about this.
** The specs are damn vague about everything - and deliberately
so.
Here is the user manual:
http://www.clipsal.com/trade/__data/page/81/W624.pdf
What is clear is that the device is NOT a power OR energy
consumption
meter at all - as it only detects the line current and assumes the
supply
is 240 volts.
There is no spec for accuracy below 1 amp current !!!!
The unit measures in VA and not power.
Wot a POS.
Wow, you're not wrong!
I heard this thing wasn't that greatest, but geeze...
Didn't this thing win on new inventors many years back? :-
**Just like that ridiculous LED streetlight last year. It seems that
The
Inventors don't ask too many questions about the veracity of the
claims.
They have had some howlers. No one ever gets a hammering on the show.
The Protex safety device springs to mind, it was much discussed on
here at the time.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s1356442.htm
I liked that Dragon's Den inventors show much better, they weren't
afraid to stick it to'em if the product was shite.
Dave.
Thanks all.
The device did sound a bit dodgy.
The biggest problem with the Inventors show is the panel.
Some ppl who actually know something would help.
**What a pathetic lie. SOME of the panel DO have some expertise in some
areas. It's just that they often know very little about some technologies.
Like the LED streetlights I previously cited.
If they'd thought about it a bit they could have killed more than one bird"Mauried"
http://www.centameter.com.au/products.htm
In particular, what their accuracy is at low power levels,less than 50
watts.
The tech specs on the units seem very vague about this.
** The specs are damn vague about everything - and deliberately so.
Here is the user manual:
http://www.clipsal.com/trade/__data/page/81/W624.pdf
What is clear is that the device is NOT a power OR energy consumption
meter at all - as it only detects the line current and assumes the supply
is 240 volts.
There is no spec for accuracy below 1 amp current !!!!
The unit measures in VA and not power.
Wot a POS.
..... Phil
under instructions to keep it simple and pleasant. Although I recall one"Mauried" <mauried@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:48b47bca.636937@news.tpg.com.au...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:36:46 +1000, "Bodgey" <ihate@spam.com> wrote:
I have been told that you need to replace the battery in the sensor
nearly
once a month which is a complete pain.
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ea1f43d-245e-4e0d-b6a4-92a805c7f59f@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 26, 5:04 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:376a3783-1dab-47d3-b773-ed5fca548c8d@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.co
m...
On Aug 26, 1:26 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
"Mauried"
http://www.centameter.com.au/products.htm
In particular, what their accuracy is at low power levels,less
than
50
watts.
The tech specs on the units seem very vague about this.
** The specs are damn vague about everything - and deliberately
so.
Here is the user manual:
http://www.clipsal.com/trade/__data/page/81/W624.pdf
What is clear is that the device is NOT a power OR energy
consumption
meter at all - as it only detects the line current and assumes
the
supply
is 240 volts.
There is no spec for accuracy below 1 amp current !!!!
The unit measures in VA and not power.
Wot a POS.
Wow, you're not wrong!
I heard this thing wasn't that greatest, but geeze...
Didn't this thing win on new inventors many years back? :-
**Just like that ridiculous LED streetlight last year. It seems that
The
Inventors don't ask too many questions about the veracity of the
claims.
They have had some howlers. No one ever gets a hammering on the show.
The Protex safety device springs to mind, it was much discussed on
here at the time.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s1356442.htm
I liked that Dragon's Den inventors show much better, they weren't
afraid to stick it to'em if the product was shite.
Dave.
Thanks all.
The device did sound a bit dodgy.
The biggest problem with the Inventors show is the panel.
Some ppl who actually know something would help.
**What a pathetic lie. SOME of the panel DO have some expertise in some
areas. It's just that they often know very little about some technologies.
Like the LED streetlights I previously cited.
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
It's no different from the rest of bloody telly. The panel are certain to be
The cement mixer in tonites show might be reliable 'batch to batch' with the"Mauried"
Thanks all.
The device did sound a bit dodgy.
** It works well enough for the purpose it is sold for - ie, monitoring
the power use of a WHOLE house.
Major home appliances ( and incandescent lighting ) have unity or near
unity power factor - only electronic stuff and CFLs do not.
The biggest problem with the Inventors show is the panel.
Some ppl who actually know something would help.
** 99% or all inventions are mechanical devices - so the panel is made
of people who have expertise in that.
..... Phil
but then they'd need to transmit a lot more data from the currentIf they'd thought about it a bit they could have killed more than one bird
with one stone. Replace the battery-hungry display with a mains powered
unit, that gives you a voltage reference, and a phase reference for one
phase if a 3-phase installation. you can then get a lot closer to a proper
(ie. real) power measurement by assuming that the phase set is angularly
symmetrical, which is likely to be the case with grid supply.