A searching miss for all papers published in the 11th annual

[Weng Tianxiang]

Hi Jim,
I published a paper "HDL code efficiency sources and its solutions" in the publication of the 11th annual international HDL conference & exhibition in 2002. The conference, as I knew, was held by VHDL committee chaired by Jim Lewis.

In the paper I introduced two groups of total 5 new keywords:
Group A: orif, elsor and errels.
Group B: machine and exclusive.

I used Google and Microsoft tools to search the paper and found nothing in the searching results.

As Jim indicated before, some or all of new keywords are introduced into Verilog-2008, VHDL-2008 and VHDL2009.

I tried another paper "Fault simulation with dynamic model abstraction switching"
and it wasn't found either.

I don't know why the articles in the conference cannot be found by Google and Microsoft searching tools.

Is the conference's academic level so low that all papers published in the conference are not considered as scientific papers?

Jim, you should pay attention to it!

Thank you.

Weng

 

[Jim Lewis]

Hi Weng,

I published a paper "HDL code efficiency sources and its solutions" in the publication of the 11th annual international HDL conference & exhibition in 2002. The conference, as I knew, was held by VHDL committee chaired by Jim Lewis.
Sure I remember your paper. OTOH, VASG which I currently chair (but not back then) was not the conference organizer.

Is the conference's academic level so low that all papers published in the conference are not considered as scientific papers?

Jim, you should pay attention to it!

While I was on the program committee at that time, I did not organize the conference. I suspect that you may have received the proceedings on a CD. Did you search your resources for it?

What you are searching for is papers from the International HDL Conference - in 2003, it changed names to DVCon. I looked on the DVCon site and only found papers back to 2008.

I looked on my computer to see if I might have a copy of the conference papers and I do not. Looked around my office to see if I could find my disk but did not see it.

Best Regards,
Jim

 

[Weng Tianxiang]

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 11:11:43 AM UTC-8, Weng Tianxiang wrote:

Hi Jim,
I published a paper "HDL code efficiency sources and its solutions" in the publication of the 11th annual international HDL conference & exhibition in 2002. The conference, as I knew, was held by VHDL committee chaired by Jim Lewis.

In the paper I introduced two groups of total 5 new keywords:
Group A: orif, elsor and errels.
Group B: machine and exclusive.

I used Google and Microsoft tools to search the paper and found nothing in the searching results.

As Jim indicated before, some or all of new keywords are introduced into Verilog-2008, VHDL-2008 and VHDL2009.

I tried another paper "Fault simulation with dynamic model abstraction switching"
and it wasn't found either.

I don't know why the articles in the conference cannot be found by Google and Microsoft searching tools.

Is the conference's academic level so low that all papers published in the conference are not considered as scientific papers?

Jim, you should pay attention to it!

Thank you.

Weng

Hi Jim,
Thank you for your reply.

As the present VHDL committee chairman, you should do something to make sure that every paper published in the conferences held by VHDL committee should go into some data base so that it will be searchable through web. If you couldn't do that it certainly would do deep harms to any future conference held by your VHDL committee.

If your committee doesn't require any payment I think any digital paper library would like to freely accept your offer to register all papers which have been published in any conferences held by VHDL committee even though you are not responsible for such blunder.

Thank you.

Weng

 

[Colin Paul de Gloucester]

On February 15th, 2015, Weng Tianxiang posted:
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|"On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 11:11:43 AM UTC-8, Weng Tianxiang wrote:|
|> Hi Jim, |
|> I published a paper "HDL code efficiency sources and its solutions" |
|> in the publication of the 11th annual international HDL conference & |
|> exhibition in 2002. The conference, as I knew, was held by VHDL |
|> committee chaired by Jim Lewis. |
|> |
|> In the paper I introduced two groups of total 5 new keywords: |
|> Group A: orif, elsor and errels. |
|> Group B: machine and exclusive. |
|> |
|> I used Google and Microsoft tools to search the paper and found |
|> nothing in the searching results. |
|> |
|> As Jim indicated before, some or all of new keywords are introduced |
|> into Verilog-2008, VHDL-2008 and VHDL2009. |
|> |
|> I tried another paper "Fault simulation with dynamic model |
|> abstraction switching" |
|> and it wasn't found either." |
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Dear Weng:

Unfortunately I did not find "HDL code efficiency sources and its
solutions". Google Scholar claimed today that "Fault simulation with
dynamic model abstraction switching" was cited two times.

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|"> I don't know why the articles in the conference cannot be found by |
|> Google and Microsoft searching tools." |
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What criteria are utilized by Google Scholar are subject to much
speculation. See for example ListServ messages archived by
HTTP://web.UTK.edu/~gwhitney/sigmetrics.html

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|"> Is the conference's academic level so low that all papers published |
|> in the conference are not considered as scientific papers?" |
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Maybe the reason these search engines did not find them is because
these papers are archived on C.D.s instead of being freely available
on the Internet. They search the Internet instead of C.D.s.

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|"> Jim, you should pay attention to it! |
|> |
|> Thank you. |
|> |
|> Weng |
| |
|Hi Jim, |
|Thank you for your reply. |
| |
|As the present VHDL committee chairman, you should do something to |
|make sure that every paper published in the conferences held by VHDL |
|committee should go into some data base so that it will be searchable |
|through web. If you couldn't do that it certainly would do deep harms |
|to any future conference held by your VHDL committee. |
| |
|If your committee doesn't require any payment I think any digital |
|paper library would like to freely accept your offer to register all |
|papers which have been published in any conferences held by VHDL |
|committee even though you are not responsible for such blunder. |
| |
|Thank you. |
| |
|Weng" |
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Information should be available.

Absurdly HDLCon.org obstructed making its information available.
HTTPS://web.Archive.org/web/*/http://www.hdlcon.org
reported:
"Page cannot be crawled or displayed due to robots.txt.

See www.hdlcon.org robots.txt page. Learn more about robots.txt."

Archive.org can help to find some old files, e.g.
HTTPS://web.Archive.org/web/20070212200049/http://www.dvcon.org/archive.html
but I did not find files from this 2002 conference.

HTTPS://web.Archive.org/web/20100127041856/http://dvcon.org/archive.html
even had hyperlinks for 2001 and 2003, but not for 2002.

Good luck,
Colin Paul de Gloucester