martin_05
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:20 pm
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Yet another way Google can make money from spam.
"We are not evil" - yeah, right.
Just a quick comment to the above.
Do you have any sense of what it costs to devise, create, maintain and
support infrastructures such as Google's? And, if you do, would you
really propose that this ought to be offered for free and yet not try
to generate revenue in any way?
Unless you don't understand the basic business equation I would
suspect that upon reflection you might ultimately realize that Google
--and lots of other internet companies-- need to make money in order
to offer what they offer the world FOR FREE.
Just look at something like Google Earth or Google maps. Amazing
stuff. Free for you to use. Sure, they monetize whatever they can.
And, they should as these are not cheap products to produce (they
literally have cars driving every road in the world with cameras to
give you street view).
Anyhow, my point is that the vilification of a company like Google is
grossly unfounded and is probably a knee-jerk reaction rather than a
well thought-out position. Try this: Work your tail off for a year --
seven days a week-- to create a great product without pay. They put
it on the web for everyone to use for free. Then read a post from a
guy who says you are evil for trying to monetize your creation with
paid ads and such things.
-Martin
Robert Miles
Guest
Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:59 pm
"rickman" <gnuarm_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c26e6846-bfea-4123-9a2f-9aa2fed77ec3_at_j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
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Why is Google too dense to fix their SPAM problem? There are so many
ways they could address the problem and as far as I can tell, they
treat it as a PR concern and have tried to give us a control that does
nothing! You can flag posts as being spam very easily now. Each post
has a link at the bottom that lets you report spam. There are times
when I flag every post that come into the groups I read. I see
nothing happen with that SPAM. The existing SPAM posts are not
deleted. The same SPAM posts are not prevented. In other words, it
is a control that is not wired into anything.
Once I switched from a newsreader to Google I decided I liked it and
don't want to return. But I am getting tired of dealing with all the
SPAM. There are some days with some groups that the SPAM outnumbers
the real posts by 10 to 1. It makes the groups nearly useless. I
believe there is a similar page at embeddedrelated.com. Does that
work any better?
Rick
I've found that if you report enough spam with the same
return address, a program (probably) at Google Groups
will notice this and temporarily disable the Google Groups
account it was posted with. This often requires getting
the full return address using a newsreader, rather than
the partial return address you can see through Google
Groups. Spammers find the nickname associated with
their accounts easier to change.
Disabling an account this way takes reporting about
40 spam messages with the same return address,
using at least two return addresses of your own (but
can be about half of them reported with each return
address, with only those in newsgroups you care about
reported with both return addresses. Expect this 40
number to rise gradually.
More info at:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/browse_thread/thread/192a32920e586a78/602f8e19821ca84d?q=
Getting attention from their humans (if any) is more
difficult, and often takes months. Do not expect them
to ever send you any return email.
Robert Miles
