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Ken Williams
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Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:52 am   



anyone know where I can buy soft iron rods in various sizes and shapes?
Seems to be a nightmare to find anything.

thanks.

Jasen Betts
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Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:06 am   



On 2009-06-28, Ken Williams <kenw232_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
anyone know where I can buy soft iron rods in various sizes and shapes?
Seems to be a nightmare to find anything.

these days a good substitute is mild steel.
I'd try a hardware outlet, if they dodn't have what I wanted I'd go to
a metal supplier like "metalcorp"

steel tie wires are mild steel, fencing wire is not
many bolts are mild steel.

> thanks.

Don Stauffer
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Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:37 pm   



Ken Williams wrote:
Quote:
anyone know where I can buy soft iron rods in various sizes and shapes?
Seems to be a nightmare to find anything.

thanks.

I used to cut lengths of wire from coat hangers and bundle them to make
a soft iron core.

Michael A. Terrell
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Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:38 pm   



Ken Williams wrote:
Quote:

anyone know where I can buy soft iron rods in various sizes and shapes?
Seems to be a nightmare to find anything.

thanks.


news:rec.crafts.metalworking is where you want to ask. You don't say
where you are located, whch makes a huge difference of where you can
find it.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

LLBrown
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Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:16 pm   



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4A477258.8E9D8BD2_at_earthlink.net...
Quote:

Ken Williams wrote:

anyone know where I can buy soft iron rods in various sizes and shapes?
Seems to be a nightmare to find anything.

thanks.


news:rec.crafts.metalworking is where you want to ask. You don't say
where you are located, whch makes a huge difference of where you can
find it.

I am located in a metalworkers hell...... I have found soft steel rods on

ebay.. a good thing if there are no local outlets.

LLB in Laredo TX

John Husvar
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Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:03 pm   



In article <4A477258.8E9D8BD2_at_earthlink.net>,
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:
Ken Williams wrote:

anyone know where I can buy soft iron rods in various sizes and shapes?
Seems to be a nightmare to find anything.

thanks.


news:rec.crafts.metalworking is where you want to ask. You don't say
where you are located, whch makes a huge difference of where you can
find it.

http://www.realwroughtiron.com/ for wrought stock.

http://www.pureiron.co.uk/ for almost chemically pure iron stock.

Check with various steel suppliers for 1005 stock too, if complete
purity isn't crucial.

You could also ask on alt.crafts.blacksmithing.

spaco
Guest

Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:10 pm   



How soft is "soft"?

Most steel yards stock 1006 in coils that some of them straighten, up to
about 9/16" diameter.s Obviously, hot rolled is cheaper.

If you don't know the difference between hot rolled steel and cold
rolled steel, go to: http://www.spaco.org/hrvscr.htm

Pete Stanaitis
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Quote:
Ken Williams wrote:

anyone know where I can buy soft iron rods in various sizes and shapes?
Seems to be a nightmare to find anything.

thanks.



news:rec.crafts.metalworking is where you want to ask. You don't say
where you are located, whch makes a huge difference of where you can
find it.



Ken Williams
Guest

Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:30 am   



Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Quote:
Ken Williams wrote:
anyone know where I can buy soft iron rods in various sizes and shapes?
Seems to be a nightmare to find anything.

thanks.


news:rec.crafts.metalworking is where you want to ask. You don't say
where you are located, whch makes a huge difference of where you can
find it.



I'm in canada. ebay doesn't seem to have much when I search for "soft
iron core".

John Fields
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:48 pm   



On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:52:17 -0400, Ken Williams <kenw232_at_yahoo.com>
wrote:

Quote:
anyone know where I can buy soft iron rods in various sizes and shapes?
Seems to be a nightmare to find anything.

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http://www.mcmaster.com/#

JF

Mark Rand
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Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:08 pm   



On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:30:51 -0400, Ken Williams <kenw232_at_yahoo.com> wrote:


Quote:

I'm in canada. ebay doesn't seem to have much when I search for "soft
iron core".

Sounds as if you are actually looking for magnetically soft iron rather than
mechanically soft iron (they are fairly closely related, but not an exact
match).

If it's for an AC application, take a hacksaw to a microwave oven transformer.
If it's a DC application, look for hot rolled, low carbon steel. probably
AISI 1005 will be as good as you can get. High silicon magnetic steels tend to
be fairly hard to obtain in small quantities and expensive except by robbing
existing equipment (like MOTranfromers).

Mark Rand
RTFM

Ken Williams
Guest

Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:57 am   



Mark Rand wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:30:51 -0400, Ken Williams <kenw232_at_yahoo.com> wrote:


I'm in canada. ebay doesn't seem to have much when I search for "soft
iron core".

Sounds as if you are actually looking for magnetically soft iron rather than
mechanically soft iron (they are fairly closely related, but not an exact
match).

If it's for an AC application, take a hacksaw to a microwave oven transformer.
If it's a DC application, look for hot rolled, low carbon steel. probably
AISI 1005 will be as good as you can get. High silicon magnetic steels tend to
be fairly hard to obtain in small quantities and expensive except by robbing
existing equipment (like MOTranfromers).


What about pulsed DC? thats considered AC?

Its for electromagnet coils that will be pulsed with DC. I want a good
iron core to concentrate the magnetic flux.

Jim Wilkins
Guest

Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:40 am   



On Jun 29, 3:30 am, Ken Williams <kenw...@yahoo.com> wrote:>
Quote:
I'm in canada.  ebay doesn't seem to have much when I search for "soft
iron core".

"Soft iron" isn't the common term. What do you need it for? There are
several applications for "soft" iron that require somewhat different
properties, such as severe bending, forge welding and electromagnets.

Would large spikes do?

jsw

Steve R.
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:26 am   



"Ken Williams" <kenw232_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Mpd2m.1025$KM3.959_at_newsfe02.iad...
Quote:
Mark Rand wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:30:51 -0400, Ken Williams <kenw232_at_yahoo.com
wrote:


I'm in canada. ebay doesn't seem to have much when I search for "soft
iron core".

Sounds as if you are actually looking for magnetically soft iron rather
than
mechanically soft iron (they are fairly closely related, but not an exact
match).

If it's for an AC application, take a hacksaw to a microwave oven
transformer.
If it's a DC application, look for hot rolled, low carbon steel. probably
AISI 1005 will be as good as you can get. High silicon magnetic steels
tend to
be fairly hard to obtain in small quantities and expensive except by
robbing
existing equipment (like MOTranfromers).


What about pulsed DC? thats considered AC?

Its for electromagnet coils that will be pulsed with DC. I want a good
iron core to concentrate the magnetic flux.


Tehn you need mu metal. Hard as hell to find!


Steve R.

KD7HB
Guest

Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:28 am   



Quote:
Its for electromagnet coils that will be pulsed with DC.   I want a good
iron core to concentrate the magnetic flux.

Somewhere in my memory banks, I remember a small transformer shaped
like a toilet paper roll, but much smaller in diameter that has thin
iron rods for a core. I am thinking it was in one or more of the old
hand-crank telephones I tore up as a kid. Used the hand crank magneto
to catch crawdads in the creek. I remember the transformer being red
or orange with black bakelite mounting brackets on the ends.

Just what size rods do you want? Could you use iron wire and make your
own "rods"? If so, check out a craft material store or a florist shop.
They may still carry paper covered iron wire.

Paul

Joseph Gwinn
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Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:33 pm   



In article
<9803da3e-fc7a-4b5c-a8c2-86da98f63981_at_3g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
KD7HB <co_farmer_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
Its for electromagnet coils that will be pulsed with DC.   I want a good
iron core to concentrate the magnetic flux.

Somewhere in my memory banks, I remember a small transformer shaped
like a toilet paper roll, but much smaller in diameter that has thin
iron rods for a core. I am thinking it was in one or more of the old
hand-crank telephones I tore up as a kid. Used the hand crank magneto
to catch crawdads in the creek. I remember the transformer being red
or orange with black bakelite mounting brackets on the ends.

I had one of those too. The core is a bundle of ordinary black iron
wire, the same stuff as sold is better hardware stores to this day.

The black oxide film should serve to insulate the wires from one
another. If not, dipping in varnish and allowing to dry before assembly
into a core will do.


Quote:
Just what size rods do you want? Could you use iron wire and make your
own "rods"? If so, check out a craft material store or a florist shop.
They may still carry paper covered iron wire.

For pulsed DC, people most often use ordinary 1018 steel for one off
projects, as the eddy currents will soon die down and 1018 is easily
bought in small quantities. Annealing the 1018 probably improves its
magnetic properties, but I don't know how many people bother with this.

Joe Gwinn

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