What is a "audio jack outlet" called?

Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:11 am   

On Aug 30, 2:12 pm, "lektric....@gmail.com" <lektric....@gmail.com>
wrote:

Never heard of a "male jack", that would be a "plug". Also have never
seen "female jack", redundant. "Female connector" or "receptacle",
sure. Jack always implies a female connector. Also used as a verb,
"to jack in a headphone". Phone switchboards were probably the first
large-scale users of jacks and plugs, might be the original of the
terms come from that arena in the distant past.

Where it gets fun is where a connector has a recess, but the contacts
are pins sticking up and the mate fits the recess but has otherwise
female sockets for the pins. The convention is that the recessed
piece is the female of the pair and the other part is the male plug,
but it could be argued for the reverse.

Stan

Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:21 am   

On Aug 30, 5:11 pm, sta...@prolynx.com wrote:


Oh, yeah. Molex connectors are an example of this. The plastic
portion can be male or female, and the metal parts (pins/sockets) can
be put in either gender plastic piece.

Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:14 am   

On Aug 30, 6:33 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:

How do you identify blind-mate connectors on removeable modules? Both
sides mount in a panel.

jsw

Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:59 am   

Good info.

I have an AT NIC card and driver for Dos - CNC machines

I have a modern PCI bus NIC card - motherboard has one - don't need NIC.

In fact the tower was RF connected and the NIC was never used.

Trade or sale.

Martin

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On 8/30/2010 2:01 PM, Tim Williams wrote:

Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:02 am   

We top posters save paging down pages of your junk in order to see
a word 'YES' or 'No'.

This was and is the standard used due to bandwidth charging ISPS but
before hard copy terminals.

Martin - Once a TTY comm person. Lunar Lander on a TTY was a real trip!
Adventure was better :-)

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On 8/30/2010 5:33 PM, John Fields wrote:

Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:01 am   

Martin H. Eastburn <lionslair_at_consolidated.net> wrote:


Trim the quotes.


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Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:10 am   

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:14:40 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins
<kb1dal_at_gmail.com> wrote:


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The movable connector is the plug.

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JF

Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:14 am   

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:59:15 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn"
<lionslair_at_consolidated.net> wrote:


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You forgot to include: "USENET SPAMmer" ;)

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JF

Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:49 pm   

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:11:38 -0700 (PDT), stans4_at_prolynx.com wrote:


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Not always, since that connector with female contacts which connects
the mains to your PC is a female plug, and the connector with male
pins that it plugs into is a male jack.
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Much more common, and in general use, is to "plug in a headphone".

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JF

Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:10 pm   

Ignoramus24925 <ignoramus24925_at_NOSPAM.24925.invalid> fired this volley in
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The female is the jack, the male is the plug.

You want a panel-mount jack.

(whatever size it is, but it sounds like a 1/8" miniature jack)

LLoyd

Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:13 pm   

John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> fired this volley in
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That might be what your personal business's colloquialisms are, but
that's not standard usage.

I have cable jacks, and I have bulkhead plugs. The sex is the _only_
thing that matters.

LLoyd

Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:49 pm   

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 07:13:09 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:


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To _you_ perhaps, but rather than argue with you let me refer you to:

http://www.amphenol-aerospace.com/pdf/12-026.pdf ,

documentation you may not be familiar with.

Notice on page 2 that connectors which are designed to be affixed to a
cable are called "plugs" and connectors which are not are called
"receptacles"

Notice also that, curiously, the MS3454 and the MS3456 are equipped
with inserts that house sockets, while one would expect that, under
your definition of "plug", the MS3476 would be equipped with pins.

Such is not the case, however, and whether a connector is called a
plug or a receptacle (jack) depends entirely on the configuration of
its shell.

Now, proceeding to page 25 of the catalog, it appears that the
contacts are designated as "pins" if they're male and "sockets" if
they're female.

This, then, determines the sex of the connector, since for any given
contact arrangement the connector can be populated with either pins or
sockets.

For example, on page 29 under: "MS/Standard how to order" we have an
MS3456L16S-8PW, with the 6th position identifying the contact type, in
this case a P(in), making the connector's sex male.

It could just as easily be an MS3456L16S-8SW, in which case we'd have
a plug filled with sockets, making it a female plug

some other possibilities which exist would be the case of an
MS3452L16S-8S,which would be a box mounting receptacle filled with
sockets, or an MS3452L16S-8P, which would be the same receptacle
filled with pins.

So, it's clear that the sex of a connector has less to do with its
being called a plug or a receptacle than whether it's the plugee or
the plugger.

A less esoteric example I gave in another post was that of the female
connector on the end of the cable which connects the AC mains to a PC.
A plug, yes?

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JF

Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:31 pm   

John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> fired this volley in
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Not the pins themselves, but the sex of the apparatus, et al. The AC
cord you mention is a plug, because it is the male component of the
connection pair, even though it has female connections in it. It inserts
into a receptacle -- a receptacle we would never call either a "jack" or
a "plug", for reasons below.

The terms "Jacks" and "Plugs" don't apply to general interconnection
devices, anyway. They traditionally apply to audio connectors. Iggy was
asking about a connector nominally designed for audio connections
(although not used for that purpose on his tool).

The terms come from early telephony application slang, one application of
which was to connect a cord to a panel, but another which was to bridge
connections IN the panel by inserting a shorting plug (sans flying wire)
into a hole. They "plugged" the hole to complete the connection. Thus,
anything on a switchboard going into a hole was a "plug".

I never heard, read, nor figured out why the hole was called a "jack".

LLoyd

Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:48 pm   

On Aug 31, 8:13 am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:

The rule is that the powered side shall be female for safety.

Whether it's called a jack or plug is left up to the draftsman or PC
board designer unless the engineers concern themselves with that low
level of detail. Usually they didn't and I was in charge of all system
interconnections by default.

In vehicles both sides may be pigtailed with the connectors tied down
for vibration resistance and the electrical contacts can be
hermaphroditic like Anderson Powerpoles, so the distinction is
meaningless.

jsw

Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:08 pm   

On Aug 30, 1:12 pm, "lektric....@gmail.com" <lektric....@gmail.com>
wrote:

The term "Jack" comes from "Jacking in", as in the headsets folks
used.
The US mil nomenclature, perhaps borrowed from early Brit RADAR
monikers, is what has been around for a long time. Connectors are
either panel or bulkhead
mounted, or flying lead mounted. The cables that connect to them are
nearly always "flying lead" variety, with the exception being a hard
mounted "plug" on a slide tray.

They are ALL "connectors" but the idea was so that anyone looking
at a schematic would know right away what kind of hardware was
associated with a given schematic element. Not everyone that uses
schematics are engineers, or have the common sense to know
when a link between two schematic sections is a detachable cable.
So we provided yet one more element to ease that lack. The really
sad thing is that it never got made into rules or fully embraced or
implemented, so we have folks that have no clue about it, and no
common sense to figure it out.