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Commander Kinsey
Guest

Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:45 pm   



On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 03:18:22 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Quote:
On 18/6/19 5:49 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 05:42:34 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 16/6/19 6:41 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com..au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle
things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over £46,351.
That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over £100,000 per annum.
Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning £150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be
said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their
respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we
should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where
he is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work,
then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer
should get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets.
They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what to
do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who
don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start off
as a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Never seen a student nurse?

Have you ever seen the study the nurse has to do out of work hours?

There's a nurse that lives in my street. She honestly thought one of my
kittens was ill because it was "small". I pointed out that kittens are
smaller than cats and she was really confused. I guess she doesn't work
in the ward where people give birth and hasn't had to learn that fucking
obvious fact.

How is that relevant to my point?


Clearly the study was wasted.

Commander Kinsey
Guest

Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:45 pm   



On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:21:33 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3js2q0nwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 23:21:05 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3f02we1wdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com..au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle
things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over £46,351.
That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over £100,000 per annum.
Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning £150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be
said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their
respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we
should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where
he
is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work,
then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should
get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets.
They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what to
do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who
don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start off
as
a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Never seen a student nurse?

They don't learn everything from the other nurse.

They could

Nope, makes no sense at all to have 1/1 teaching with the theory.


You could have 1 to 4. One nurse doing stuff to a patient, 4 watching.

Quote:
and should.

Ditto.

They do lots of theory now, and have full degrees now.

What a waste of time.

Nope.

You learn ten times faster from practical experience.

Like hell you do with the theory. And you need the theory so the nurse
knows what to do when something new happens with the patient.


Seeing it in a textbook just ain't the same as the real thing. Would you rather learn how to service your car by reading a Haynes manual, or by actually servicing it?

Quote:
Like my mate, recently retired, who is an *inspector*. A hazardous
area, gaseous environment inspector, to be precise. This is what
happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

That's their job.

Pigs arse it is. The most they do is have some say on what changes to the
law happen.

Which is running the country.

Pigs arse it is. Those running business and doing other stuff do that.


If only.

Rod Speed
Guest

Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:45 pm   



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3m4q52nwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
Quote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:21:33 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3js2q0nwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 23:21:05 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3f02we1wdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in
message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle
things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over £46,351.
That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that
much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the
UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over £100,000 per annum.
Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning £150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be
said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their
respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we
should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time
and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where
he
is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work,
then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should
get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets.
They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what
to
do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who
don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start off
as
a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Never seen a student nurse?

They don't learn everything from the other nurse.

They could

Nope, makes no sense at all to have 1/1 teaching with the theory.

You could have 1 to 4. One nurse doing stuff to a patient, 4 watching.


That's not the THEORY.

Quote:
and should.

Ditto.

They do lots of theory now, and have full degrees now.

What a waste of time.

Nope.

You learn ten times faster from practical experience.

Like hell you do with the theory. And you need the theory so the nurse
knows what to do when something new happens with the patient.

Seeing it in a textbook just ain't the same as the real thing.


Pity about the THEORY.

Quote:
Like my mate, recently retired, who is an *inspector*. A hazardous
area, gaseous environment inspector, to be precise. This is what
happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

That's their job.

Pigs arse it is. The most they do is have some say on what changes to
the
law happen.

Which is running the country.

Pigs arse it is. Those running business and doing other stuff do that.

If only.


Fraid so.

Peeler
Guest

Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:45 pm   



On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 04:42:15 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH 172 !!! lines of trollshit!

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"Shit you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
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Daniel60
Guest

Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:45 am   



Xeno wrote on 18/06/2019 12:19 PM:
Quote:
On 18/6/19 5:50 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 05:40:42 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:
On 16/6/19 2:23 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:


<Snip>

Quote:
Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

That one rig fire took out 10% of the UK supply of gas and oil. That has
a knock on effect on the entire UK economy.

Shit happens.

Oh and a whole 10%?  Not the whole country then.  And only the gas and
oil, not everything else.

10% affects the whole country, even if only in pricing.

.... and, I'm guessing, in a much wider market than just the UK!!


--
Daniel

Commander Kinsey
Guest

Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:45 pm   



On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 08:50:21 +0100, Daniel60 <daniel47_at_eternal-september.org> wrote:

Quote:
Xeno wrote on 18/06/2019 12:19 PM:
On 18/6/19 5:50 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 05:40:42 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:
On 16/6/19 2:23 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Snip

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

That one rig fire took out 10% of the UK supply of gas and oil. That has
a knock on effect on the entire UK economy.

Shit happens.

Oh and a whole 10%? Not the whole country then. And only the gas and
oil, not everything else.

10% affects the whole country, even if only in pricing.

... and, I'm guessing, in a much wider market than just the UK!!


Prices of petrol go up and down every 5 minutes. I doubt anyone noticed.

Commander Kinsey
Guest

Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:45 pm   



On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 19:42:15 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3m4q52nwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:21:33 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3js2q0nwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 23:21:05 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3f02we1wdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com..au
wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in
message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle
things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over £46,351.
That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that
much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the
UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over £100,000 per annum.
Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning £150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be
said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their
respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we
should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time
and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where
he
is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work,
then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should
get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets.
They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what
to
do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who
don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start off
as
a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Never seen a student nurse?

They don't learn everything from the other nurse.

They could

Nope, makes no sense at all to have 1/1 teaching with the theory.

You could have 1 to 4. One nurse doing stuff to a patient, 4 watching..

That's not the THEORY.


There is only one thing to learn, knowledge.

Quote:
Like my mate, recently retired, who is an *inspector*. A hazardous
area, gaseous environment inspector, to be precise. This is what
happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

That's their job.

Pigs arse it is. The most they do is have some say on what changes to
the
law happen.

Which is running the country.

Pigs arse it is. Those running business and doing other stuff do that.

If only.

Fraid so.


If businesses ran the country instead of moronic politicians, things would be in much better shape. Unfortunately left wing parties fuck things up.

Rod Speed
Guest

Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:45 pm   



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3qi4kv4wdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
Quote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 19:42:15 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3m4q52nwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:21:33 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3js2q0nwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 23:21:05 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3f02we1wdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in
message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle
things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over £46,351.
That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that
much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the
UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over £100,000 per annum.
Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until
he
retired
recently, was earning £150,000 for 6 months work. It has to
be
said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their
respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should
be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we
should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time
and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get
where
he
is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his
work,
then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in
trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer
should
get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running
the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific
skillsets.
They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what
to
do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people
who
don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start
off
as
a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow
suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Never seen a student nurse?

They don't learn everything from the other nurse.

They could

Nope, makes no sense at all to have 1/1 teaching with the theory.

You could have 1 to 4. One nurse doing stuff to a patient, 4 watching.

That's not the THEORY.

There is only one thing to learn, knowledge.


But its stupid to be teaching the theory 1/1 or even 1/4
That isnt how you got your degree.

Quote:
Like my mate, recently retired, who is an *inspector*. A
hazardous
area, gaseous environment inspector, to be precise. This is what
happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

That's their job.

Pigs arse it is. The most they do is have some say on what changes to
the
law happen.

Which is running the country.

Pigs arse it is. Those running business and doing other stuff do that.

If only.

Fraid so.

If businesses ran the country instead of moronic politicians,


They do.

> things would be in much better shape.

Bullshit.

> Unfortunately left wing parties fuck things up.

That's not running the country.

Peeler
Guest

Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:45 pm   



On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 04:38:38 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH another 192 !!! lines of the two clinically insane idiots' latest
bullshit>

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Senile Rodent: "Yeah, right. Feed them, clothe them, and fix them when
they're broken.
After all, you paid good money for them. Then you've got to keep an eye
on them all the time."

Birdbrain: "Better than having to give them wages on top of that."

Senile Rodent: "Specially when they make more slaves for you
and produce their own food and clothes."

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Commander Kinsey
Guest

Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:45 pm   



On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 19:38:38 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 23:21:05 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed
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wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in
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once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle
things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over £46,351.
That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that
much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the
UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over £100,000 per annum.
Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until
he
retired
recently, was earning £150,000 for 6 months work. It has to
be
said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their
respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should
be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we
should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time
and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get
where
he
is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his
work,
then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in
trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer
should
get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running
the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific
skillsets.
They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what
to
do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people
who
don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start
off
as
a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow
suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Never seen a student nurse?

They don't learn everything from the other nurse.

They could

Nope, makes no sense at all to have 1/1 teaching with the theory.

You could have 1 to 4. One nurse doing stuff to a patient, 4 watching.

That's not the THEORY.

There is only one thing to learn, knowledge.

But its stupid to be teaching the theory 1/1 or even 1/4
That isnt how you got your degree.


I would have learned faster with hands on experience. And in fact there was a fair amount of practicals.

Quote:
Like my mate, recently retired, who is an *inspector*. A
hazardous
area, gaseous environment inspector, to be precise. This is what
happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

That's their job.

Pigs arse it is. The most they do is have some say on what changes to
the
law happen.

Which is running the country.

Pigs arse it is. Those running business and doing other stuff do that.

If only.

Fraid so.

If businesses ran the country instead of moronic politicians,

They do.


Funny how they constantly get into shit for tax evasion.

Quote:
things would be in much better shape.

Bullshit.

Unfortunately left wing parties fuck things up.

That's not running the country.


Agreed, left wing parties just break things.

Peeler
Guest

Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:45 am   



....and much better air in here again!

--
"Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed:
"You can fuck off as you know less than pig shit you sad
little ignorant cunt."
MID: <62dcaae57b421e2b3b10e97d9c0ddf08_at_haph.org>

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Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:45 am   



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 19:38:38 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
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"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 19:42:15 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:21:33 +0100, Rod Speed
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wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 23:21:05 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno
xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in
message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle
things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over
£46,351.
That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that
much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in
the
UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over £100,000 per
annum.
Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until
he
retired
recently, was earning £150,000 for 6 months work. It has to
be
said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their
respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody
should
be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we
should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the
time
and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get
where
he
is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his
work,
then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in
trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer
should
get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running
the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific
skillsets.
They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers
what
to
do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove
all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people
who
don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start
off
as
a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow
suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Never seen a student nurse?

They don't learn everything from the other nurse.

They could

Nope, makes no sense at all to have 1/1 teaching with the theory.

You could have 1 to 4. One nurse doing stuff to a patient, 4 watching.

That's not the THEORY.

There is only one thing to learn, knowledge.

But its stupid to be teaching the theory 1/1 or even 1/4
That isnt how you got your degree.

I would have learned faster with hands on experience.


Not with the THEORY you wouldn't.

> And in fact there was a fair amount of practicals.

Which never actually involved making a nuclear bomb etc for some odd reason.

There is plenty of medicine that isnt commonly seen even in
the 3-4 years the student nurse is still a student. They have
to understand the theory so that if they do see that effect when
they are a nurse, they can get a doctor to do something about
it or stop doing what produced that etc.

Quote:
Like my mate, recently retired, who is an *inspector*. A
hazardous
area, gaseous environment inspector, to be precise. This is
what
happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

That's their job.

Pigs arse it is. The most they do is have some say on what changes
to
the
law happen.

Which is running the country.

Pigs arse it is. Those running business and doing other stuff do
that.

If only.

Fraid so.

If businesses ran the country instead of moronic politicians,

They do.

Funny how they constantly get into shit for tax evasion.


Separate matter entirely to running their business.

Quote:
things would be in much better shape.

Bullshit.

Unfortunately left wing parties fuck things up.

That's not running the country.

Agreed, left wing parties just break things.


Norway didn't.

Daniel60
Guest

Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:45 am   



Rod Speed wrote on 10/06/2019 3:18 AM:
Quote:


"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:28:05 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47_at_eternal-september.org> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote on 8/06/2019 4:35 AM:
"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 00:09:24 +0100, Rod Speed
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Snip

But the owner of the house with the panels on it may
well not be able to afford the double panel installation.

Fuck all cost compared to the whole house.

But with house prices so high now, most will be finding it
hard to find someone who will lend them what they need
to buy the house and so the optional stuff like a double sized
panel will be what doesn't make the cut to get the loan even
if it does make economic sense in the long term. I doubt that
the double sized panel would make economic sense in the
long term in scotland. Bet it would make more sense to
out that money into shares instead.

$500,000 - $1Million - and up for a house! $2,500 - $5,000 - and up for
Solar Panels!

Fuck me your houses cost a lot.  Mine is £90K = about $150K AU?

We bought that one I posted the link to for $232K in 2016,
a much better  house than yours. Its now worth around $350K


Yea, I live out of the big smoke, too! This house I'm in cost me
$240,00'ish in 2016 ... not sure what it's worth now ... $300,000 maybe!

--
Daniel

Daniel60
Guest

Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:45 am   



Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 3:47 AM:
Quote:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 18:18:29 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:28:05 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47_at_eternal-september.org> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote on 8/06/2019 4:35 AM:
"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z20sopyqwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 00:09:24 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Snip

But the owner of the house with the panels on it may
well not be able to afford the double panel installation.

Fuck all cost compared to the whole house.

But with house prices so high now, most will be finding it
hard to find someone who will lend them what they need
to buy the house and so the optional stuff like a double sized
panel will be what doesn't make the cut to get the loan even
if it does make economic sense in the long term. I doubt that
the double sized panel would make economic sense in the
long term in scotland. Bet it would make more sense to
out that money into shares instead.

$500,000 - $1Million - and up for a house! $2,500 - $5,000 - and up for
Solar Panels!

Fuck me your houses cost a lot.  Mine is £90K = about $150K AU?

We bought that one I posted the link to for $232K in 2016,
a much better house than yours. Its now worth around $350K

So not half to 1 million then.


.... and, I'm guessing, not in a big city, either.


--
Daniel

Commander Kinsey
Guest

Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:45 pm   



On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 11:27:46 +0100, Daniel60 <daniel47_at_eternal-september..org> wrote:

Quote:
Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 3:47 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 18:18:29 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:28:05 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47_at_eternal-september.org> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote on 8/06/2019 4:35 AM:
"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z20sopyqwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 00:09:24 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Snip

But the owner of the house with the panels on it may
well not be able to afford the double panel installation.

Fuck all cost compared to the whole house.

But with house prices so high now, most will be finding it
hard to find someone who will lend them what they need
to buy the house and so the optional stuff like a double sized
panel will be what doesn't make the cut to get the loan even
if it does make economic sense in the long term. I doubt that
the double sized panel would make economic sense in the
long term in scotland. Bet it would make more sense to
out that money into shares instead.

$500,000 - $1Million - and up for a house! $2,500 - $5,000 - and up for
Solar Panels!

Fuck me your houses cost a lot. Mine is £90K = about $150K AU?

We bought that one I posted the link to for $232K in 2016,
a much better house than yours. Its now worth around $350K

So not half to 1 million then.

... and, I'm guessing, not in a big city, either.


I really don't understand people paying more for a smaller house in a noisier area. Driving 10 miles to work is worth it to get a nice quiet large house.

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