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Peeler
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Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:45 pm   



....and nothing's left!

--
FredXX to Rot Speed:
"You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder
we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity
and criminality is inherited after all?"
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Peeler
Guest

Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:45 pm   



On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 05:57:13 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


> Completely off with the fairys, as always.

That's why you two asshole belong together, senile idiot! <BG>

--
MrTurnip_at_down.the.farm about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID: <ps10v9$uo2$1_at_gioia.aioe.org>

Rod Speed
Guest

Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:45 pm   



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
Quote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over 46,351. That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over 100,000 per annum. Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning 150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where he is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work, then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets. They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what to do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start off as a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow suit.


Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Quote:
Like my mate, recently retired,
who is an *inspector*. A hazardous area, gaseous environment inspector,
to be precise. This is what happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?


No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

Rod Speed
Guest

Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:45 pm   



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 01:59:17 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3ch4nb5wdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:52:26 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28l88bywdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 20:44:20 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28imsizwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:41:18 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28fvcgdwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:35:47 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"devnull" <devnull_at_127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:n_PLE.43682$T52.29836_at_fx35.iad...
On 6/11/19 9:40 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
And if you don't have the money stored in a tax-free IRA,
you'll
pay
income tax on your losses.

Dunno what an IRA is, but all ISAs are tax free AFAIK.

Hang on, losses? Surely you pay income tax on your income,
not
losses.


Yah, it's called "Republican taxpayer privilege". The bank
pays
you
2%
interest but inflation goes up 3%.

Essentially you have less buying power at the end of the
year
and
yet
you
still have to pay taxes on the 2% "gain".

The democrats have lots of slick scams to take money from
working
taxpayers and give it to their lazy welfare constituents.

And yet only half pay any income tax. Or are you saying that
the
Dems
are
so
clever that they have worked out how to make just Repugs pay
income
tax
?

Who cares about income tax?

In all but the USA, it's the main tax most pay in the first
world. Only the unemployable dregs like you pay most
of the tax they pay in the VAT and fuel and sin taxes.

It's one of only 50 taxes.

What matters is how much you pay in each one.

VAT is 20%! You will eventually spend all you earn,

Plenty of the better paid don't.

Nobody accumulates money forever.

Plenty with a clue accumulate it till they stop working
and plenty accumulate it and hand it on to their kids too.

If they don't spend it their descendants will.

Plenty of their descendents arent stupid enough to spend it.

If what you were saying was true, there would be an ever increasing
number
of people with huger and huger amounts of money.

so that's 20% which is significantly similar to the income tax
rate.

Not with the better paid. Only the dregs of the labour market.

If you're poor, you pay a low rate,

Yes, the dregs mostly do pay just VAT and petrol and sin taxes.

if you're rich, you bend the rules and pay a low rate.

Not even possible for most of the better paid wage slaves.
Those pay a lot more than 20% income tax.

Nope,

Yep.

once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over 46,351. That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much. They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over 100,000 per annum. Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he retired
recently, was earning 150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid.

Wrong.

Last time I checked (admittedly 10 years ago) it was 100K. I remember,
because at that time the rector of a local uni was getting 130K which was
absurd in comparison.


Nope. The PM is a useless twat who gets nothing done.

Quote:
Nobody should be earning that much.

Plenty do anyway.

Hardly anyone in fact.


Bullshit.

Quote:
The average UK wage is a fraction of that

Their problem.

and we should all be paid a similar amount.

That stupid approach provides no incentive to get qualified for the much
better paid jobs.

Some people like to work in comfy desk jobs
? where they don't have any physical effort.


Only the dregs of the labour market do anything physical effort wise.

Quote:
A bank manager expends less energy than a bricklayer, he should therefore
get paid less.


Completely off with the fairys, as always.

Rod Speed
Guest

Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:45 pm   



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fn57hawdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
Quote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 16:56:39 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:22 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:52:26 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28l88bywdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 20:44:20 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28imsizwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:41:18 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in
message
news:op.z28fvcgdwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:35:47 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"devnull" <devnull_at_127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:n_PLE.43682$T52.29836_at_fx35.iad...
On 6/11/19 9:40 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
And if you don't have the money stored in a tax-free
IRA,
you'll
pay
income tax on your losses.

Dunno what an IRA is, but all ISAs are tax free AFAIK.

Hang on, losses? Surely you pay income tax on your
income, not
losses.


Yah, it's called "Republican taxpayer privilege". The
bank
pays
you
2%
interest but inflation goes up 3%.

Essentially you have less buying power at the end of the
year
and
yet
you
still have to pay taxes on the 2% "gain".

The democrats have lots of slick scams to take money from
working
taxpayers and give it to their lazy welfare constituents.

And yet only half pay any income tax. Or are you saying
that
the
Dems
are
so
clever that they have worked out how to make just Repugs
pay
income
tax
?

Who cares about income tax?

In all but the USA, it's the main tax most pay in the first
world. Only the unemployable dregs like you pay most
of the tax they pay in the VAT and fuel and sin taxes.

It's one of only 50 taxes.

What matters is how much you pay in each one.

VAT is 20%! You will eventually spend all you earn,

Plenty of the better paid don't.

Nobody accumulates money forever.

Plenty with a clue accumulate it till they stop working
and plenty accumulate it and hand it on to their kids too.

If they don't spend it their descendants will.

Plenty of their descendents arent stupid enough to spend it.

If what you were saying was true, there would be an ever
increasing
number
of people with huger and huger amounts of money.

so that's 20% which is significantly similar to the income tax
rate.

Not with the better paid. Only the dregs of the labour market.

If you're poor, you pay a low rate,

Yes, the dregs mostly do pay just VAT and petrol and sin taxes.

if you're rich, you bend the rules and pay a low rate.

Not even possible for most of the better paid wage slaves.
Those pay a lot more than 20% income tax.

Nope,

Yep.

once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over 46,351. That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over 100,000 per annum. Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning 150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where he is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work, then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

So while the labourer was toiling away, you were sat relaxing in a
classroom.

For 12 years, yes, I was in a classroom but it was hardly relaxing. It
was also part time because, like most people, I had a day job, also
hardly relaxing. Prior to that I was working on equipment like this.

https://www.finning.com/content/dam/finning/en_ca/Images/Industries/Mining/Industries_Mining_Hero_Fleet.jpg?$cc-s$

along with these;

http://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/Caterpillar/CM20180215-48779-24452?$cc-s$

In places like this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Jz56jfbGI

The first part of the land the plane flies over is the town where I was
domiciled in Indonesia. Much larger town now and the plane was different
then, an 18 seat De Havilland Twin Otter. It's looking quite civilised
now. It is a nickel mine and it had just been carved out of the jungle
and I saw the first load of ore shipped out. When I finished up at this
place, I returned to Aus, married, changed my career and enrolled at
Uni, all in the space of 6 months.

As I said, you should get paid what you're worth and you work at making
yourself worth that much.

So what you're doing is more important than running the whole of the UK?=


No PM runs the whole of the UK.

Commander Kinsey
Guest

Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:45 pm   



On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:


"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over 46,351. That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over 100,000 per annum. Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning 150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where he is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work, then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets. They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what to do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start off as a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.


Never seen a student nurse?

Quote:
Like my mate, recently retired,
who is an *inspector*. A hazardous area, gaseous environment inspector,
to be precise. This is what happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.


That's their job.

Rod Speed
Guest

Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:45 pm   



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3f02we1wdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
Quote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over 46,351.
That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over 100,000 per annum.
Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning 150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be
said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where he
is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work, then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets.
They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what to
do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who
don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start off as
a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Never seen a student nurse?


They don't learn everything from the other nurse.

They do lots of theory now, and have full degrees now.

Quote:
Like my mate, recently retired,
who is an *inspector*. A hazardous area, gaseous environment inspector,
to be precise. This is what happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

That's their job.


Pigs arse it is. The most they do is have some say on what changes to the
law happen.

Peeler
Guest

Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:45 am   



On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 08:21:05 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH another 109 !!! lines of the two clinically insane assholes' latest
trollshit>

--
Another typical retarded "conversation" between Birdbrain and senile Rodent:

Senile Rodent: " Did you ever dig a hole to bury your own shit?"

Birdbrain: "I do if there's no flush toilet around."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, I prefer camping like that, off by myself with
no dunnys around and have always buried the shit."

MID: <fv66kaFml0nU2_at_mid.individual.net>

Xeno
Guest

Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:45 am   



On 16/6/19 2:23 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over 46,351. That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over 100,000 per annum. Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning 150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where he is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work, then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets. They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what to
do? Anybody could do the below when told how to.


Why don't you go and tell the companies concerned what they should do.


Quote:
We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who
don't even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start
off as a plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow
suit.


That might have worked in the past, say 200 years ago. It no longer does
as many roles are way too technical.
Quote:

Like my mate, recently retired,
who is an *inspector*. A hazardous area, gaseous environment inspector,
to be precise. This is what happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg


Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?


That one rig fire took out 10% of the UK supply of gas and oil. That has
a knock on effect on the entire UK economy.


--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Xeno
Guest

Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:45 am   



On 16/6/19 6:41 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over 46,351.
That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over 100,000 per annum.
Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning 150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be
said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where
he is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work, then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets.
They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what to
do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who
don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start off
as a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Never seen a student nurse?


Have you ever seen the study the nurse has to do out of work hours?
Quote:

Like my mate, recently retired,
who is an *inspector*. A hazardous area, gaseous environment inspector,
to be precise. This is what happens without people like him on the job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg


Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

That's their job.


It's the job of the *entire parliament*, the *team*.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Rod Speed
Guest

Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:45 am   



"Xeno" <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Quote:
On 16/6/19 6:41 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:05:48 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 15/6/19 11:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 03:10:35 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 14/6/19 8:59 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:06:13 +0100, Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au
wrote:

On 13/6/19 2:44 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:24:38 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z28s84sjwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things
nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over 46,351.
That's
really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much.
They
can afford accountants to cheat.

You're mixing in the wrong circles. One of my friends in the UK,
Folkestone to be precise, earns well over 100,000 per annum.
Others
earn slightly lesser amounts. One of my friends here, until he
retired
recently, was earning 150,000 for 6 months work. It has to be
said,
both those aforementioned are highly qualified in their respective
fields.

That's more than the prime minister gets paid. Nobody should be
earning
that much. The average UK wage is a fraction of that and we should
all
be paid a similar amount.

Why? He is getting paid *what he is worth*. He put in the time and
effort studying and gaining experience on the ground to get where he
is
and if people are willing to pay him appropriately for his work,
then
that is up to him. I put in 12 years at uni and decades in trade
relevant study and qualifications but you think a labourer should
get
the same pay as I? You need to get real.

I don't care what job you do, it's less important than running the
entire country.

You tell that to the people who are looking for specific skillsets.
They
seem to think the people are worth it.

Aren't those companies capable of just teaching their workers what to
do?
Anybody could do the below when told how to. We should remove all
education (especially when it's paid for by the taxes of people who
don't
even have kids) and just have people learning on the job. Start off as
a
plumber's mate, he shows you what he's doing, then you follow suit.

Doesn't work when designing aircraft, stupid.

Or even when doing a brexit either.

Or with doctors either.

Never seen a student nurse?

Have you ever seen the study the nurse has to do out of work hours?

Like my mate, recently retired,
who is an *inspector*. A hazardous area, gaseous environment
inspector,
to be precise. This is what happens without people like him on the
job;

https://www.simien.com/assets/simiensimien/media/images/blog/fire-on-oil-rig-blog.jpg

Oh, one entire oil rig, not a whole country then?

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

That's their job.

It's the job of the *entire parliament*, the *team*.


Nope, they don't run the country either. ALL they do is change laws.

Peeler
Guest

Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:45 am   



On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 14:42:34 +1000, Xeno, another brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile Australian idiot, blathered:


Quote:
Never seen a student nurse?

Have you ever seen the study the nurse has to do out of work hours?


Have you ever seen a senile troll-feeding asshole that is sucking troll cock
on Usenet? You ARE one!

Peeler
Guest

Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:45 am   



On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 16:00:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


> Nope, they don't run the country either. ALL they do is change laws.

In auto-contradicting mode again, you clinically insane abnormal senile
pest?

--
Sqwertz to Rot Speed:
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID: <ev1p6ml7ywd5$.dlg_at_sqwertz.com>

Peeler
Guest

Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:45 am   



On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 14:40:42 +1000, Xeno, another brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile Australian idiot, blathered:


> Why don't you go and tell the companies concerned what they should do.

More relevant question, why don't you go and stop sucking troll cock, senile
idiot?

The Natural Philosopher
Guest

Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:45 am   



On 16/06/2019 05:42, Xeno wrote:
Quote:
On 16/6/19 6:41 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 21:00:03 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa_at_gmail.com> wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey_at_military.org.jp> wrote in message
news:op.z3fo4yjpwdg98l_at_desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...

No PM runs an entire country, stupid.

That's their job.

It's the job of the *entire parliament*, the *team*.

Actually no, it isnt. Its the job of millions of people who work in the
public sector.

By and large parliamennt just fannies aboiut issuing virtue signa;lling
directives that are if possible ignored.


--
“People believe certain stories because everyone important tells them,
and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them.
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s
agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of
one’s suitability to be taken seriously.”

Paul Krugman

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