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N_Cook
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:29 pm   



Don't know the name for it, used in "oven tray liner". Takes high
temperature, does not stretch or tear and is only 0.05mm thick, highly
flexible.
Under a microscope it appears to be woven kevlar fibres squashed between
PTFE sheet. Unfortunately even puncturing with hundreds of needle holes I
cannot find a way of gluing it, even just a lap joint with no forces
involved, tension or shear.
probably same as this
http://www.theptfeshop.com/product.php/41/non-stick-baking-tray-liner
Found in local ordinary baking products shop, quite cheap

Meat Plow
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:45 pm   



On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:29:55 -0000, "N_Cook" <diverse_at_tcp.co.uk>wrote:

Quote:
Don't know the name for it, used in "oven tray liner". Takes high
temperature, does not stretch or tear and is only 0.05mm thick, highly
flexible.
Under a microscope it appears to be woven kevlar fibres squashed between
PTFE sheet. Unfortunately even puncturing with hundreds of needle holes I
cannot find a way of gluing it, even just a lap joint with no forces
involved, tension or shear.
probably same as this
http://www.theptfeshop.com/product.php/41/non-stick-baking-tray-liner
Found in local ordinary baking products shop, quite cheap


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bond+teflon+to+metal

Jamie
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:59 pm   



N_Cook wrote:

Quote:
Don't know the name for it, used in "oven tray liner". Takes high
temperature, does not stretch or tear and is only 0.05mm thick, highly
flexible.
Under a microscope it appears to be woven kevlar fibres squashed between
PTFE sheet. Unfortunately even puncturing with hundreds of needle holes I
cannot find a way of gluing it, even just a lap joint with no forces
involved, tension or shear.
probably same as this
http://www.theptfeshop.com/product.php/41/non-stick-baking-tray-liner
Found in local ordinary baking products shop, quite cheap


If you're attaching to another plastic material, use your HOT air

soldering tool.. known as "Plastic Welding"

Jim Yanik
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:15 pm   



"N_Cook" <diverse_at_tcp.co.uk> wrote in news:hkkcbb$2km$1_at_news.eternal-
september.org:

Quote:
Don't know the name for it, used in "oven tray liner". Takes high
temperature, does not stretch or tear and is only 0.05mm thick, highly
flexible.
Under a microscope it appears to be woven kevlar fibres squashed between
PTFE sheet. Unfortunately even puncturing with hundreds of needle holes I
cannot find a way of gluing it, even just a lap joint with no forces
involved, tension or shear.
probably same as this
http://www.theptfeshop.com/product.php/41/non-stick-baking-tray-liner
Found in local ordinary baking products shop, quite cheap



aren't those -silicone- baking sheets?
Much of the "non-stick" baking stuff is silicone these days.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

whit3rd
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:19 pm   



On Feb 6, 10:29 am, "N_Cook" <dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Don't know the name for it, used in "oven tray liner". Takes high
temperature, does not stretch or tear and is only 0.05mm thick, highly
flexible.
Under a microscope it appears to be woven kevlar fibres squashed between
PTFE sheet. Unfortunately even puncturing with hundreds of needle holes I
cannot find a way of gluing it, even just a lap joint with no forces
involved, tension or shear.

So, if you want to attach it, you're limited to stapling, stitching,
clamping...
Safety pins will work, too.

Randy Day
Guest

Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:33 pm   



In article <hkkcbb$2km$1_at_news.eternal-september.org>,
diverse_at_tcp.co.uk says...
Quote:
Don't know the name for it, used in "oven tray liner". Takes high
temperature, does not stretch or tear and is only 0.05mm thick, highly
flexible.
Under a microscope it appears to be woven kevlar fibres squashed between
PTFE sheet. Unfortunately even puncturing with hundreds of needle holes I
cannot find a way of gluing it, even just a lap joint with no forces
involved, tension or shear.
probably same as this
http://www.theptfeshop.com/product.php/41/non-stick-baking-tray-liner
Found in local ordinary baking products shop, quite cheap

One company I worked for used a product
they referred to as 'kapton tape'. High
temp (withstood soldering irons) and
adhesive backed.

Of course, your def. of 'high temp' might
differ from theirs.

HTH

N_Cook
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:08 am   



Jim Yanik <jyanik_at_abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9D179B4F88ED2jyaniklocalnetcom_at_216.168.3.44...
Quote:
"N_Cook" <diverse_at_tcp.co.uk> wrote in news:hkkcbb$2km$1_at_news.eternal-
september.org:

Don't know the name for it, used in "oven tray liner". Takes high
temperature, does not stretch or tear and is only 0.05mm thick, highly
flexible.
Under a microscope it appears to be woven kevlar fibres squashed between
PTFE sheet. Unfortunately even puncturing with hundreds of needle holes
I
cannot find a way of gluing it, even just a lap joint with no forces
involved, tension or shear.
probably same as this
http://www.theptfeshop.com/product.php/41/non-stick-baking-tray-liner
Found in local ordinary baking products shop, quite cheap



aren't those -silicone- baking sheets?
Much of the "non-stick" baking stuff is silicone these days.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com


Nothing rubber about this material. If you've ever heard the sound of kevlar
sails rattling in use on a modern racing yacht , it is that sound if you tap
the material, a metalic sort of sound.

Latest marginal gluing attempt is epoxy after grinding back the ptfe
covering, will see tomorrow, if any sort of adhesion.

N_Cook
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:22 am   



N_Cook <diverse_at_tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hkkp76$4su$1_at_news.eternal-september.org...
Quote:
Jim Yanik <jyanik_at_abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9D179B4F88ED2jyaniklocalnetcom_at_216.168.3.44...
"N_Cook" <diverse_at_tcp.co.uk> wrote in news:hkkcbb$2km$1_at_news.eternal-
september.org:

Don't know the name for it, used in "oven tray liner". Takes high
temperature, does not stretch or tear and is only 0.05mm thick, highly
flexible.
Under a microscope it appears to be woven kevlar fibres squashed
between
PTFE sheet. Unfortunately even puncturing with hundreds of needle
holes
I
cannot find a way of gluing it, even just a lap joint with no forces
involved, tension or shear.
probably same as this
http://www.theptfeshop.com/product.php/41/non-stick-baking-tray-liner
Found in local ordinary baking products shop, quite cheap



aren't those -silicone- baking sheets?
Much of the "non-stick" baking stuff is silicone these days.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com


Nothing rubber about this material. If you've ever heard the sound of
kevlar
sails rattling in use on a modern racing yacht , it is that sound if you
tap
the material, a metalic sort of sound.

Latest marginal gluing attempt is epoxy after grinding back the ptfe
covering, will see tomorrow, if any sort of adhesion.



shear strength of a test of 12 x 6mm plain lap about 1kg , more than
required for current use, high temp ability not required this time. So
lightly grind back the very thin ptfe coating with a Dremmel disc, on to be
joined faces

N_Cook
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:44 am   



wrt last

peel strength , not shear strength

N_Cook
Guest

Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:31 pm   



It easily forms into a cylinder of 3mm radius and can go tighter without
cockling

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