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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUn
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Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:47 am   



On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:48:39 -0800, AncientOfyears wrote:

Quote:
I need to fixup a 1500VA USP to run longer.
This is a pseudo sine wave unit.
First I plan to derate it by 50% so I will draw no more that ~700VA.
Remove the existing internal batteries and set aside.
Then I plan to hook up two 12V marine deep discharge batteries in series
to provide 24VDC using appropriate wire gauge.

So far maybe so good?
Suggestions please.

Using CyberPower rather than APC since I am hearing that APC eats
batteries before their time with too much testing.


I can personally attest that APC UPS' suck so bad they suck at
sucking.. They overcharge and end life early for the batteries installed
into them.

They also fritz out and act like there isn't even a battery installed
and recover after a power line cycling, which is beyond lame if one's
intent is to keep what is plugged into it up and running.

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUn
Guest

Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:50 am   



On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:55:49 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

Quote:
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:48:39 -0800, AncientOfyears wrote:
snip


Quote:
They also fritz out and act like there isn't even a battery
installed
and recover after a power line cycling, which is beyond lame if one's
intent is to keep what is plugged into it up and running.
I got a used APC 330 XT Plus; ran without any problems for 5-6 years,
handling brownouts and blackouts like a champ.
Then had to change the battery as it was finally dying.
The new battery is still going like a champ after about 5 years.
Equipment must fall apart around you, because (other than you) i have
heard only good stories about the APC brand (if not abused).


Did you look at those batteries you removed? I'll bet they were bloated.

And how "abused", idiot? The UPS acts all on its own in a brown
condition or a power loss condition. The lab and other parts of the house
have a 17kW back-up generator that takes 15 seconds to start up and feed
power, so that is the max time without power these things see.

They do not like the power the top of the line generator makes either.

So three died, and two bloated batteries, and the two currently in
service are new and they pull the "battery missing" bullshit and they have
never been fed by the generator yet.

On the other hand the five new Cyber Power 1500 units have never made a
peep and know how to stop topping off the batteries when they are charged.

Another thing, dingus. It is not just me. Other real, actually
intelligent owners of those APC pieces of shit have noticed the same
behavior so your stupid (other than you) crap is just as lame as
Thompson's retarded "troll list". "Equipment must fall apart around you"

Stupid shit like that pretty much makes you the fucking troll.

Robert Baer
Guest

Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:55 am   



DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:48:39 -0800, AncientOfyears wrote:

I need to fixup a 1500VA USP to run longer.
This is a pseudo sine wave unit.
First I plan to derate it by 50% so I will draw no more that ~700VA.
Remove the existing internal batteries and set aside.
Then I plan to hook up two 12V marine deep discharge batteries in series
to provide 24VDC using appropriate wire gauge.

So far maybe so good?
Suggestions please.

Using CyberPower rather than APC since I am hearing that APC eats
batteries before their time with too much testing.

I can personally attest that APC UPS' suck so bad they suck at
sucking.. They overcharge and end life early for the batteries installed
into them.

They also fritz out and act like there isn't even a battery installed
and recover after a power line cycling, which is beyond lame if one's
intent is to keep what is plugged into it up and running.

I got a used APC 330 XT Plus; ran without any problems for 5-6 years,
handling brownouts and blackouts like a champ.
Then had to change the battery as it was finally dying.
The new battery is still going like a champ after about 5 years.
Equipment must fall apart around you, because (other than you) i have
heard only good stories about the APC brand (if not abused).

Robert Baer
Guest

Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:30 am   



DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:55:49 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:48:39 -0800, AncientOfyears wrote:
snip

They also fritz out and act like there isn't even a battery
installed
and recover after a power line cycling, which is beyond lame if one's
intent is to keep what is plugged into it up and running.
I got a used APC 330 XT Plus; ran without any problems for 5-6 years,
handling brownouts and blackouts like a champ.
Then had to change the battery as it was finally dying.
The new battery is still going like a champ after about 5 years.
Equipment must fall apart around you, because (other than you) i have
heard only good stories about the APC brand (if not abused).

Did you look at those batteries you removed? I'll bet they were bloated.

And how "abused", idiot? The UPS acts all on its own in a brown
condition or a power loss condition. The lab and other parts of the house
have a 17kW back-up generator that takes 15 seconds to start up and feed
power, so that is the max time without power these things see.

They do not like the power the top of the line generator makes either.

So three died, and two bloated batteries, and the two currently in
service are new and they pull the "battery missing" bullshit and they have
never been fed by the generator yet.

On the other hand the five new Cyber Power 1500 units have never made a
peep and know how to stop topping off the batteries when they are charged.

Another thing, dingus. It is not just me. Other real, actually
intelligent owners of those APC pieces of shit have noticed the same
behavior so your stupid (other than you) crap is just as lame as
Thompson's retarded "troll list". "Equipment must fall apart around you"

Stupid shit like that pretty much makes you the fucking troll.

The battery was NOT "bloated"; not even a "bump" in any surface.
Just plain "end of life" like any (well maintained) car battery.

I doubt that YOU are "intelligent" with all of that foul language and
misplaced name calling.

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUn
Guest

Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:05 pm   



On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 21:14:48 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

Quote:
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:55:49 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:


snip

Quote:

Stupid shit like that pretty much makes you the fucking troll.
The battery was NOT "bloated"; not even a "bump" in any surface. Just
plain "end of life" like any (well maintained) car battery.

I doubt that YOU are "intelligent" with all of that foul language and
misplaced name calling.


You are the one who made the retarded crack which promted the response,
idiot. And you are apparently STILL the one who is so clueless that you
are unaware of all the complaints with exactly the same behavior involved.

My farts are more intelligent than you are. "equipment must fall apart
around you" is about as unintelligent as it can possibly get.

Maybe you should watch the Gary Cooper flic "Gentlemen's Agreement".
The stupid shit folks did depicted in that film are exactly like the
stupid shit you pulled.

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