P E Schoen
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Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:29 am
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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Quote:
AGWFacts wrote:
It is not illegal in any court, you silly goose: the assertion
is a lie. It is not against the law in California to "get off 'the
grid.'" I lived 30 months "off the grid:" no mailing address,
no physical address, no telephone, no electricity, no sewer
system, no plumbing.
That's what most people call HOMELESS, and California is
full of homeless people.
Good point. Homeless people are not seen as a threat to our way of life
because they are generally miserable and nobody would willingly adopt such a
lifestyle. And those few rugged individuals who eke out an existence in
remote areas are rarely seen, and their lives tend to be difficult and
unattractive, and it would be impossible for most people to survive in such
a way.
But when relatively competent and "normal" people band together and pool
resources and become self-sufficient AND HAPPY, others may be tempted to
drop out of the rat-race of conventional society and reap the benefits of a
way of life that does not need or support the corporate and governmental
institutions, they become a threat to "business as usual", and may become
targets of the establishment. Their way of life is also a form of socialism
or communism, which is even more credible as a threat because it is
voluntary and demonstrably viable.
I have enjoyed living in an intentional community, or "commune", and I would
like to join or start something similar as I get older and find it more
difficult to maintain things on my property and in my house. Many older
people move to retirement communities which are also very expensive and only
somewhat based on shared resources, so they are also sources of revenue for
government and corporate entities. But what I would like to do is form
something like a campground, where people could choose to live in a simple
cabin or a motor home, and share resources and responsibilities for upkeep.
And it should also include younger people who could assist with more
physical labor and maintain a more active and upbeat environment. The cost
of such an enterprise would be only about $100,000 each for 15 families, and
it could include much self-sufficiency by growing food and having on-site
job opportunities such as operating partly as a campground. More details are
at:
www.newkoinonia.com. But I wonder if that would be a threat and subject
to harassment and interference from government forces, as the people in CA
experienced?
Paul
Paul
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:44 am
P E Schoen wrote:
Quote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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AGWFacts wrote:
It is not illegal in any court, you silly goose: the assertion
is a lie. It is not against the law in California to "get off 'the
grid.'" I lived 30 months "off the grid:" no mailing address,
no physical address, no telephone, no electricity, no sewer
system, no plumbing.
That's what most people call HOMELESS, and California is
full of homeless people.
Good point. Homeless people are not seen as a threat to our way of life
because they are generally miserable and nobody would willingly adopt such a
lifestyle. And those few rugged individuals who eke out an existence in
remote areas are rarely seen, and their lives tend to be difficult and
unattractive, and it would be impossible for most people to survive in such
a way.
But when relatively competent and "normal" people band together and pool
resources and become self-sufficient AND HAPPY, others may be tempted to
drop out of the rat-race of conventional society and reap the benefits of a
way of life that does not need or support the corporate and governmental
institutions, they become a threat to "business as usual", and may become
targets of the establishment. Their way of life is also a form of socialism
or communism, which is even more credible as a threat because it is
voluntary and demonstrably viable.
I have enjoyed living in an intentional community, or "commune", and I would
like to join or start something similar as I get older and find it more
difficult to maintain things on my property and in my house. Many older
people move to retirement communities which are also very expensive and only
somewhat based on shared resources, so they are also sources of revenue for
government and corporate entities. But what I would like to do is form
something like a campground, where people could choose to live in a simple
cabin or a motor home, and share resources and responsibilities for upkeep.
And it should also include younger people who could assist with more
physical labor and maintain a more active and upbeat environment. The cost
of such an enterprise would be only about $100,000 each for 15 families, and
it could include much self-sufficiency by growing food and having on-site
job opportunities such as operating partly as a campground. More details are
at:
www.newkoinonia.com. But I wonder if that would be a threat and subject
to harassment and interference from government forces, as the people in CA
experienced?
Everything is a threat to the paranoid government in California. or
causes cancer. I'm waiting for them to claim that breathing causes
cancer in 'The land of fruits and nuts'.
--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
