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Clocky
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:23 pm   



On 4/01/2020 9:19 pm, news18 wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 18:37:22 +0800, Clocky wrote:


In case of emergency or in fringe reception areas, AM is the go.

who actually broadcasts on AM now?
I supose I could dig out my multiband luggable and listen.


http://www.radioheritage.net/Australia/amwa.asp

Click on your state. There are loads of stations.


The ABC for instance is important as any bushfire emergency warnings in
a region interrupts normal programming regularly for warnings and updates.

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Computer Nerd Kev
Guest

Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:12 am   



Xeno <xenolith_at_optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Quote:
On 4/1/20 5:51 pm, Clocky wrote:

Radios in mobiles don't receive AM. They receive FM and use the
headphone cable as the antenna. The reason they do not have AM radios is
because the frequencies mobile phones generate internally squash out AM
reception.

Yes, correct, FM not AM. My bad. That's what I keep a couple of small
Samsungs for, as portable FM radios. Does anybody use AM any more?


People who listen to talkback for one, including the ABC local radio
which some people have on constantly in the car (definitely not
including me). There are also some music stations, though they chop
and change around a lot (including between mainly music and mainly
talkback). Then there's racing, and foreign language services.

I had a scan around the airwaves recently after watching this
youtube video where it's shown that a lot of stations around
Melbourne are still broadcasting on specific frequencies used
back in the 40s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE5JkKN90t4

I'll get around to fixing up some old valve radios of my own one
of these days.

> My car radio has AM but I never flick it to AM.

Me neither actually, but then I only listen to ABC Classic FM.

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Trevor Wilson
Guest

Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:43 am   



On 4/01/2020 6:21 pm, Xeno wrote:
Quote:
On 4/1/20 5:51 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 4/01/2020 7:50 am, Xeno wrote:
On 4/1/20 10:39 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Trevor Wilson <trevor_at_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
On 3/01/2020 12:34 pm, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:09:55 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:

poor buggers listening to ABC AM as the ash clouds circle in the SE
coastline....

does AM still exist?
I thought it was FM< now and don't mobile phones all recieve FM?.


**Yes, AM still exists.

Certainly, I can pick up more channels on AM than FM where I live.
That's probably even more the case in mountainous areas where these
big fires are.

Not all cell 'phones receive FM.

I was only vaguely aware that a few do, never tried myself. I can't
imagine that they'd be very good at it - the antennas are designed
for much higher frequencies, unless they have a dedicated one which
seems unlikely.

They are quite good at it since they use *headphones* as the AM
antenna. Yes, no AM without headphones (on a lead) plugged in.

Radios in mobiles don't receive AM. They receive FM and use the
headphone cable as the antenna. The reason they do not have AM radios
is because the frequencies mobile phones generate internally squash
out AM reception.

Yes, correct, FM not AM. My bad. That's what I keep a couple of small
Samsungs for, as portable FM radios. Does anybody use AM any more? My
car radio has AM but I never flick it to AM.


**Sadly, they do. I live in the Shire. In Craig Kelly's electorate (much
of the rest is Scummo's electorate). As such, many of my neighbours
religiously listen to Alan Jones on their AM radios.

Morons.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

news18
Guest

Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:57 am   



On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 22:23:13 +0800, Clocky wrote:

Quote:
On 4/01/2020 9:19 pm, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 18:37:22 +0800, Clocky wrote:


In case of emergency or in fringe reception areas, AM is the go.

who actually broadcasts on AM now?
I supose I could dig out my multiband luggable and listen.


http://www.radioheritage.net/Australia/amwa.asp

Click on your state. There are loads of stations.


The ABC for instance is important as any bushfire emergency warnings in
a region interrupts normal programming regularly for warnings and
updates.


Lol, I just realsed that our alarm is 1 hour of AM ABC Radio each
morning. the talkng heads on that are bad enoug, but the few times I
listened to AM/FM commercial, I'd have to be desperate to bother.

Clocky
Guest

Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:46 pm   



On 5/01/2020 4:57 pm, news18 wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 22:23:13 +0800, Clocky wrote:

On 4/01/2020 9:19 pm, news18 wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 18:37:22 +0800, Clocky wrote:


In case of emergency or in fringe reception areas, AM is the go.

who actually broadcasts on AM now?
I supose I could dig out my multiband luggable and listen.


http://www.radioheritage.net/Australia/amwa.asp

Click on your state. There are loads of stations.


The ABC for instance is important as any bushfire emergency warnings in
a region interrupts normal programming regularly for warnings and
updates.

Lol, I just realsed that our alarm is 1 hour of AM ABC Radio each
morning. the talkng heads on that are bad enoug, but the few times I
listened to AM/FM commercial, I'd have to be desperate to bother.


You asked who was broadcasting, not about content.
Ask I said, there are loads of stations on AM.

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amdx
Guest

Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:45 am   



On 1/3/2020 5:50 PM, Xeno wrote:
Quote:
On 4/1/20 10:39 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Trevor Wilson <trevor_at_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
On 3/01/2020 12:34 pm, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:09:55 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:

poor buggers listening to ABC AM as the ash clouds circle in the SE
coastline....

does AM still exist?
I thought it was FM< now and don't mobile phones all recieve FM?.


**Yes, AM still exists.

Certainly, I can pick up more channels on AM than FM where I live.
That's probably even more the case in mountainous areas where these
big fires are.

Not all cell 'phones receive FM.

I was only vaguely aware that a few do, never tried myself. I can't
imagine that they'd be very good at it - the antennas are designed
for much higher frequencies, unless they have a dedicated one which
seems unlikely.

They are quite good at it since they use *headphones* as the AM antenna.
Yes, no AM without headphones (on a lead) plugged in.


I didn't know any cell phones received AM radio. My cellphone receives
FM with an FM app installed, but the headphones must be connected,
because they are the antenna. I know of no phone that use the headphone
wire as an antenna for AM radio.
Mikek

Clocky
Guest

Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:45 am   



On 15/01/2020 8:55 am, amdx wrote:
Quote:
On 1/3/2020 5:50 PM, Xeno wrote:
On 4/1/20 10:39 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Trevor Wilson <trevor_at_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
On 3/01/2020 12:34 pm, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:09:55 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:

poor buggers listening to ABC AM as the ash clouds circle in the SE
coastline....

does AM still exist?
I thought it was FM< now and don't mobile phones all recieve FM?.


**Yes, AM still exists.

Certainly, I can pick up more channels on AM than FM where I live.
That's probably even more the case in mountainous areas where these
big fires are.

Not all cell 'phones receive FM.

I was only vaguely aware that a few do, never tried myself. I can't
imagine that they'd be very good at it - the antennas are designed
for much higher frequencies, unless they have a dedicated one which
seems unlikely.

They are quite good at it since they use *headphones* as the AM
antenna. Yes, no AM without headphones (on a lead) plugged in.

 I didn't know any cell phones received AM radio. My cellphone receives
FM with an FM app installed, but the headphones must be connected,
because they are the antenna. I know of no phone that use the headphone
wire as an antenna for AM radio.
                        Mikek


Phones don't have AM radios because the frequencies they produce
internally drown out any available outside AM radio signal sources.




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Phil Allison
Guest

Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:45 am   



Clifford Heath the Chirping Cricket Puked:

-----------------------------------------
Quote:


It is a damning indictment on our government that these volunteer
organisations are at the leading edge of the response - especially the
firey's themselves, not just these radio folk - while government sits
and wrings their hands, makes insubstantial offers to pay small sums for
those who have given up their jobs and income to save other people's
houses even after losing their own


** Volunteers engaged by the NSW Rural Fire Service (NSWRFS) have *never* wanted payment and still do not now. By remaining true volunteers they retain their status as local heroes in their respective communities.

The NSWRFS is state government run and financed, as are all the other state services. They have a permanent staff of about 1000 located in Homebush and a huge fleet of special vehicles available for use at multiple locations.

The federal government has no direct role in this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_Rural_Fire_Service



- and even our head of government is
Quote:
on video *assaulting* unwilling people in his attempts to get photo-ops.


** How absurd.

That one reckless, feral women could not decide if she wanted to shake hands with the PM doing way more than his job required is devoid of meaning.



Quote:
It's utterly disgusting.


** No Mr Cricket - YOU are.

Quote:
I hope he doesn't come near me, or I'd deck him
- and I'm really not a violent man.


** But quite happy to be really violent with facts and truth.

Not just on this issue, but damn near everything.



...... Phil

Phil Allison
Guest

Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:45 am   



Trevor Wilson wrote:
---------------------

Quote:

**Yes, AM still exists. Not all cell 'phones receive FM. In fact, when
some of the cell towers were disabled during the fires, firefighters
suddenly found that their communications were non-existent. In previous
years, they relied on HF radio (which doesn't require cell towers).
Betcha they switch back to HF radio quick smart.



** Mobile 100watt rigs on HF can work over thousands of kms at night and many hundreds during the day. Made by companies like "CODAN" here in Australia.

Think they mainly use SSB.

Piss all over any AM or FM CB rig.



...... Phil

Clifford Heath
Guest

Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:45 am   



On 7/2/20 5:43 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
Quote:
Clifford Heath the Chirping Cricket Puked:

-----------------------------------------


It is a damning indictment on our government that these volunteer
organisations are at the leading edge of the response - especially the
firey's themselves, not just these radio folk - while government sits
and wrings their hands, makes insubstantial offers to pay small sums for
those who have given up their jobs and income to save other people's
houses even after losing their own


** Volunteers engaged by the NSW Rural Fire Service (NSWRFS) have *never* wanted payment and still do not now. By remaining true volunteers they retain their status as local heroes in their respective communities.

The NSWRFS is state government run and financed, as are all the other state services. They have a permanent staff of about 1000 located in Homebush and a huge fleet of special vehicles available for use at multiple locations.

The federal government has no direct role in this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_Rural_Fire_Service



- and even our head of government is
on video *assaulting* unwilling people in his attempts to get photo-ops.


** How absurd.

That one reckless, feral women could not decide if she wanted to shake hands with the PM doing way more than his job required is devoid of meaning.



It's utterly disgusting.


** No Mr Cricket - YOU are.

I hope he doesn't come near me, or I'd deck him
- and I'm really not a violent man.


** But quite happy to be really violent with facts and truth.

Not just on this issue, but damn near everything.



..... Phil


Nice to see you back, Phil.

news18
Guest

Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:45 pm   



On Thu, 06 Feb 2020 22:43:50 -0800, Phil Allison wrote:


Quote:
That one reckless, feral women could not decide if she wanted to shake
hands with the PM doing way more than his job required is devoid of
meaning.


Nah, he ws just there to stage a photo op and didn't give a rats about
anyone.

DavID Payne
Guest

Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:45 am   



In Castlemaine, Victoria it seems that FM is used for the ABC and 'Macquarrie'? services that in Melbourne are on AM.

Apart from Main-FM (not sure of spelling) the only good signals are FM from places like Bendigo, Horsham, Ballarat. Sometimes I can get useable Melbourne AM from near a window on the south side of the building.

I used to have a small clipon radio from Aldi that recieved digital and FM analog(ue). (Didn't work for long.) Around Melbourne then the same radio station was delayed over a second via digital, and would cut out quite often. So I preferred the analog.

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