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Michael A. Terrell
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Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:00 am
Jamie wrote:
Quote:
Fucking beginner
It shows, every time you post something.
Quote:
What a gas!
Stay away from open flames, Maynard. You would burn down the whole
trailer park, if you caught fire.
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Jim Thompson
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Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:15 am
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:00:04 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote:
Jamie wrote:
Fucking beginner
It shows, every time you post something.
What a gas!
Stay away from open flames, Maynard. You would burn down the whole
trailer park, if you caught fire.
Jamie/Maynard/WTF is just one banana peel short of insanity... and yet
he's smug about it.
He has no clue of the technical competency of 'qrk' who properly
advised, "Do you blindly trust your models??? If you do, beware, they
are often wrong. With experience, you will learn a healthy distrust in
your simulator and test equipment."
I happen to know 'qrk' quite well. His company was a past chip design
customer of mine. 'qrk' really knows his stuff.
Yet Jamie/Maynard/WTF smart-mouths his superiors. Time to shun him
into non-existence.
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Jamie
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Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:31 am
Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:00:04 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Fucking beginner
It shows, every time you post something.
What a gas!
Stay away from open flames, Maynard. You would burn down the whole
trailer park, if you caught fire.
Jamie/Maynard/WTF is just one banana peel short of insanity... and yet
he's smug about it.
He has no clue of the technical competency of 'qrk' who properly
advised, "Do you blindly trust your models??? If you do, beware, they
are often wrong. With experience, you will learn a healthy distrust in
your simulator and test equipment."
I happen to know 'qrk' quite well. His company was a past chip design
customer of mine. 'qrk' really knows his stuff.
Yet Jamie/Maynard/WTF smart-mouths his superiors. Time to shun him
into non-existence.
...Jim Thompson
I am puzzled by you Jim, I really thought you had more common sense
than that.
If seems your above statement is completely contradictory to what I
stated by Ltspice not being reliable, spice in general i guess and bench
equipment is the only truth.
Oh well, I'll just past it off as age on your part. I have an aging
father in-law and I see the resemblance.
Just goes to show how some people are not able to make proper
assessments of others. Most of those generally do not become management.
Jamie
Jim Thompson
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Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:25 pm
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 06:54:40 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy
<robert.a.macy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 25, 4:15 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
...snip...
are often wrong. With experience, you will learn a healthy distrust in
your simulator and test equipment."
..snip...
...Jim Thompson
[snip]
Glad you added "test equipment" Too often THAT is trusted more than
it warrants!
[snip]
Not original with me, I was just quoting qrk's comments to try to
pound some sense into Jamie... alas, a lost cause... dumb as a stump
and twice as thick >:-}
...Jim Thompson
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| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
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http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Robert Macy
Guest
Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:54 pm
On Jan 25, 4:15 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
....snip...
Quote:
are often wrong. With experience, you will learn a healthy distrust in
your simulator and test equipment."
...snip...
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon
athttp://www.analog-innovations.com| 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Glad you added "test equipment" Too often THAT is trusted more than
it warrants!
I embarrassingly once spent 4 hours tracking down, yes, test equipment
problem, not a circuit problem! Learned a healthy respect to distrust
EVERYTHING, That even includes distrusting the values marked on the
components when you breadboard - especially after using 10 ohm
resistors marked as 1k And, worst of all? a bad lot of IC's! It is
surprising how much one blindly trusts incoming parts more than they
trust their own designs to work properly. Now I don't even trust data
sheets to accurately describe a component. Once, Intel's spec sheet
was so wrong that my software group worked 6 weeks trying to 'fix'
their software, all wasted time, all caused by an error in Intel's
data sheet! When confronted, Intel's response was, oh, yes, that is
an error. Thanks a lot for the heads up!
All of the above experiences really describe why one should NEVER
trust a 'garage' design. You know, the design works, so build more
just like it and start shipping.
After the above experiences, I now trust well worded Buying Contracts,
and well documented designs with verification testing using test
equipment traceable to the N??? standards. Now, when you do that;
THERE is recourse if something doesn't work right.
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:04 am
Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
Not original with me, I was just quoting qrk's comments to try to
pound some sense into Jamie... alas, a lost cause... dumb as a stump
and twice as thick >:-}
I wonder if his employer knows how he looks online. He has mentioned
the company, and it only takes a few seconds to find his public
records. Even a typical low level NDA signed at the time of employment
would be enough legal reason to fire him.
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You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:08 am
Robert Macy wrote:
Quote:
Glad you added "test equipment" Too often THAT is trusted more than
it warrants!
I embarrassingly once spent 4 hours tracking down, yes, test equipment
problem, not a circuit problem! Learned a healthy respect to distrust
EVERYTHING, That even includes distrusting the values marked on the
components when you breadboard - especially after using 10 ohm
resistors marked as 1k And, worst of all? a bad lot of IC's! It is
surprising how much one blindly trusts incoming parts more than they
trust their own designs to work properly. Now I don't even trust data
sheets to accurately describe a component. Once, Intel's spec sheet
was so wrong that my software group worked 6 weeks trying to 'fix'
their software, all wasted time, all caused by an error in Intel's
data sheet! When confronted, Intel's response was, oh, yes, that is
an error. Thanks a lot for the heads up!
All of the above experiences really describe why one should NEVER
trust a 'garage' design. You know, the design works, so build more
just like it and start shipping.
After the above experiences, I now trust well worded Buying Contracts,
and well documented designs with verification testing using test
equipment traceable to the N??? standards. Now, when you do that;
THERE is recourse if something doesn't work right.
More than once I was called from my bench to see what was wrong on a
test setup, to find the problem in seconds becasue the tech didn't
follow the procedure to verify the test setup was working. Things like
not bothering to zero the offset voltage on a function generator, then
failing boards becasue the 'video' output was against one rail. It
would piss me off, because I had taught them the proper procedure,
before giving them the product to work on.
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You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
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