split aircons at aldi/bunnings

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:16 am   

I was looking at the low cost split aircons at Bunnings on a pallete
for $599 and now I see the latest Aldi catalog has a cheap reverse
cycle split system for $599.
Q; Can you set this up at home with no vacuum equipment? How do you
connect the copper tubing between the outside compressor and split
system inside with no special equipment? I cant open the box to read
the manual before buying and the bunnings sales person just says, yes
no problem setting up at home if you are handy..

thanks

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:16 am   

On 17/10/2011 7:16 PM, syd bluemountains wrote:

vacuumed already but dependent on state law you ma by law need a trady
to install at least the connection

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Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:19 am   

On 17/10/2011 5:16 PM, syd bluemountains wrote:

Just an idea, could it be that they are like these?
http://www.dealsdirect.com.au/p/aux-reverse-cycle-portable-air-conditioner-14000-btu/

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:23 am   

TonyS wrote:

freestanding self contained portable units.

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:43 am   

On Oct 17, 7:31 pm, atec77 <ate...@hotmail.com> wrote:


A friend bought some self-install systems at Super A mart about
2004.

In this particular case, the gas was stored under pressure in the
compressor, the piping was then installed, and the gas released (a tap
or screw on the outside to open the outlet?) .

According to the manual, if the tubing was a short run as supplied
(3-4 metre or so tubing was supplied with fittings already installed
at each end) there was no need to evacuate the pipes of air first as
this wouldn't cause any significant problem. (if you wanted longer
runs - it would need to be done).

The pipes were installed and the gas released into them. All is still
working fine.

Note that it was critical to ensure that no dirt or crap got into the
pipes. The end caps had to be left on until fitting to keep them
clean.


Note that apart from this, if you are doing large units, you will need
to run power to them. If it is over 10a, and there isnt a suitable
socket already there, you will need to install - or have an
electrician install a suitably rated (15A, 20A, 25A) power point and
circuit in the fuse box.

Alternately it would need to be hard wired.

Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:21 pm   

On 17/10/2011 9:19 PM, TonyS wrote:

Tom

Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:51 pm   

Yes the Bunnings guy said you just release the tap to pressurize the
tubes, so maybe its pretty simple if you dont get crap in the lines as
you say.

Here is the Aldi link on sale this Wednesday. Need to compare which
unit is better, Aldo or Bunnings.
http://www.aldi.com.au/au/html/offers/2827_19407.htm

6.4kW cooling power, would this indicate it needs about 25 amps??

Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:36 pm   

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:51:51 -0700 (PDT), syd bluemountains
<gg_at_joho.com> wrote:


I'd take a closer look at the warranty before committing.

In the event of a problem arising relating to the gas during
installation - will they honour the warranty if you are not a
qualified installer?

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:09 pm   

On 10/17/2011 10:51 PM, syd bluemountains wrote:

**No. The 6.4kW figure is the EQUIVALENT cooling power of the device.
Somewhere on the unit, and/or in the manual, will be the power
consumption rating. This will likely lie between 2kW and 2.4kW. Modern
air conditioners are usually far more than 100% efficient. Of more
concern to you SHOULD be what the real figures are. Disreputable CHinese
manufacturers have been known to exagerate the figures obtainable with
their products.

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Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:46 pm   

On 17/10/2011 9:51 PM, syd bluemountains wrote:

connection or there wont be a warranty as specified somewhere in tiny
writing

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:20 am   

In article
<b8ea64e2-6122-4c94-a746-18a93c26d110_at_y35g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
syd bluemountains <gg_at_joho.com> wrote:


Why cant you open the box? Just do it

David

Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:31 pm   

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:16:22 -0700 (PDT), syd bluemountains
<gg_at_joho.com> wrote:


I can't do it but you might be able to if you have the required
license.

Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:50 pm   

Barry OGrady wrote:

Almost anybody should be capable of installing one of these but there
are restrictions on who is allowed.but people are installing them all
the time and get away with it .
But if you make a mistake and have to get a refrig tech to regas it will
cost a fortune because they know you are up a tree without a paddle.
I had a second hand one given me and I filled it with R290 which is
propane and it works perfectly.

Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:27 am   

"syd bluemountains" <gg_at_joho.com> wrote in message
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I had a similar occurrence . I asked to inspect the article before I
purchased........There were none on display. I asked the assistant(?) , who
refused to open the box. I asked for the manager. Eventually he turned up
and agreed to open the box to allow me to take measurements and glance the
manual. It is after all your right to view before you purchase

Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:21 pm   

On 19/10/2011 1:27 PM, Metro wrote:

Hardly a right. At most you can indicate that if you can't view, then
you won't purchase.

Sylvia.