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Pierre-François (f5bqp pf
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:17 pm   



Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or better)
reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

MAny thanks for your help.
All the bests.
Pierre-Francois
f5bqp

John Robertson
Guest

Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:15 am   



Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) wrote:
Quote:
Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or better)
reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

MAny thanks for your help.
All the bests.
Pierre-Francois
f5bqp


These devices are long obsolete.

You can use the CMOS RAM 5101 in place of these all you have to do is
invert the chip select (as I recall). Pin-for-pin the same otherwise.
You may have to use a CMOS inverter and tie it to the battery supply for
the memory retention to work correctly - you will need to read the spec
sheets on both chips to figure that out...

At least there are still al lot of 5101s left.

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Pierre-François (f5bqp pf
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:45 pm   



Le 28/02/2011 00:15, John Robertson a écrit :
Quote:
Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) wrote:
Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or better)
reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

MAny thanks for your help.
All the bests.
Pierre-Francois
f5bqp


These devices are long obsolete.

You can use the CMOS RAM 5101 in place of these all you have to do is
invert the chip select (as I recall). Pin-for-pin the same otherwise.
You may have to use a CMOS inverter and tie it to the battery supply for
the memory retention to work correctly - you will need to read the spec
sheets on both chips to figure that out...

At least there are still al lot of 5101s left.


Hi John,

Thanks for the info, I'll look at it.

All the bests.

pf

Baron
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:15 pm   



"Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)" Inscribed thus:

Quote:
Le 28/02/2011 00:15, John Robertson a écrit :
Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) wrote:
Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or better)
reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

MAny thanks for your help.
All the bests.
Pierre-Francois
f5bqp


I might have some kicking about. Give me a chance to check.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Pierre-François (f5bqp_p
Guest

Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:18 pm   



Le 28/02/2011 20:15, Baron a écrit :
Quote:
"Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)" Inscribed thus:

Le 28/02/2011 00:15, John Robertson a écrit :
Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) wrote:
Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or better)
reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

MAny thanks for your help.
All the bests.
Pierre-Francois
f5bqp


I might have some kicking about. Give me a chance to check.


Thanks Baron.

All the bests
pf

John Robertson
Guest

Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:58 am   



Michael Black wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, "Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)" wrote:

Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or better)
reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

Any static RAM is going to be better than those, larger capacity and
faster speed. Unless this is to replace RAM in some existing equipment,
one might as well start with higher density cmos RAM, if you don't need
the extra space just set the unneeded address lines to a stable state.

Even if this is to replace RAM in existing equipment, it might be easier
to build some sort of adapter to plug in than try to find such old RAM.
In 1976 it was a great way to get some RAM with the RCA Cosmac Elf, but
even then it was a pretty small amount of RAM.

I don't know what's available these days, but there was a whole wave of
CMOS RAM that had the same basic pinouts as standard ROM. Or when this
sort of question came up even some years back, someone suggested cache
RAM off an older motherboard, it was something like 24pin package but
a narrow DIP.

Michael

These are 22 pin midwide ICs. The difference between 5101s and these is
minor, one select line needs to be inverted. I assumed this is for
existing board and it would be too much trouble to make up a kludge
socket to replace the two 6561s...

Still one could fool around with a 2116LP or similar and accomplish the
same results.

John :-#)#

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Pierre-François (f5bqp pf
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Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:25 am   



Le 01/03/2011 03:57, Michael Black a écrit :
Quote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, "Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)" wrote:

Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or better)
reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

Any static RAM is going to be better than those, larger capacity and
faster speed. Unless this is to replace RAM in some existing equipment,
one might as well start with higher density cmos RAM, if you don't need
the extra space just set the unneeded address lines to a stable state.

Even if this is to replace RAM in existing equipment, it might be easier
to build some sort of adapter to plug in than try to find such old RAM.
In 1976 it was a great way to get some RAM with the RCA Cosmac Elf, but
even then it was a pretty small amount of RAM.

I don't know what's available these days, but there was a whole wave of
CMOS RAM that had the same basic pinouts as standard ROM. Or when this
sort of question came up even some years back, someone suggested cache
RAM off an older motherboard, it was something like 24pin package but
a narrow DIP.

Michael

Hi Michael,

Thanks for your reply and your ideas, I've looked at that but the space
between the boards is so small that I cannot use the piggyback technique.

pf

Pierre-François (f5bqp pf
Guest

Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:30 am   



Le 01/03/2011 06:58, John Robertson a écrit :
Quote:
Michael Black wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, "Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)" wrote:

Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or better)
reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

Any static RAM is going to be better than those, larger capacity and
faster speed. Unless this is to replace RAM in some existing equipment,
one might as well start with higher density cmos RAM, if you don't
need the extra space just set the unneeded address lines to a stable
state.

Even if this is to replace RAM in existing equipment, it might be
easier to build some sort of adapter to plug in than try to find such
old RAM.
In 1976 it was a great way to get some RAM with the RCA Cosmac Elf, but
even then it was a pretty small amount of RAM.

I don't know what's available these days, but there was a whole wave of
CMOS RAM that had the same basic pinouts as standard ROM. Or when this
sort of question came up even some years back, someone suggested cache
RAM off an older motherboard, it was something like 24pin package but
a narrow DIP.

Michael

These are 22 pin midwide ICs. The difference between 5101s and these is
minor, one select line needs to be inverted. I assumed this is for
existing board and it would be too much trouble to make up a kludge
socket to replace the two 6561s...

Still one could fool around with a 2116LP or similar and accomplish the
same results.

John :-#)#


Hi John,

As I replied to Michael, the space between the boards is so small that
building a piggyback module is impossible.
However I guess I've found these ICs, I'm waiting for two of these.
I'll need to find one or two others as spare just in case...

pf

JW
Guest

Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:12 am   



On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:17:02 +0100 "Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)"
<pfmonet_at_wanadoo.fr> wrote in Message id:
<4d6ab13e$0$32451$ba4acef3_at_reader.news.orange.fr>:

Quote:
Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or better)
reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

MAny thanks for your help.
All the bests.
Pierre-Francois
f5bqp

How about Ebay:
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=256x4+SRAM&_sacat=0&_odkw=256x4&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Pierre-François (f5bqp pf
Guest

Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:28 pm   



Le 01/03/2011 11:12, JW a écrit :
Quote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:17:02 +0100 "Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)"
pfmonet_at_wanadoo.fr> wrote in Message id:
4d6ab13e$0$32451$ba4acef3_at_reader.news.orange.fr>:

Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or better)
reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

MAny thanks for your help.
All the bests.
Pierre-Francois
f5bqp

How about Ebay:
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=256x4+SRAM&_sacat=0&_odkw=256x4&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Yes thanks, I got two of these, they where not here yesterday.

pf

Baron
Guest

Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:50 pm   



"Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)" Inscribed thus:

Quote:
Le 28/02/2011 20:15, Baron a écrit :
"Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)" Inscribed thus:

Le 28/02/2011 00:15, John Robertson a écrit :
Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) wrote:
Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or
better) reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

MAny thanks for your help.
All the bests.
Pierre-Francois
f5bqp


I might have some kicking about. Give me a chance to check.


Thanks Baron.

All the bests
pf

The ones I have are HM6564 ! Sorry. Sad
If I come across any I'll let you know.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Pierre-François (f5bqp_p
Guest

Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:13 pm   



Le 02/03/2011 20:50, Baron a écrit :
Quote:
"Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)" Inscribed thus:

Le 28/02/2011 20:15, Baron a écrit :
"Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm)" Inscribed thus:

Le 28/02/2011 00:15, John Robertson a écrit :
Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) wrote:
Dear Friends,

I'm trying to get 2 CMOS static RAM chips 256 x 4 (300ns or
better) reference HM6561 from Intersil or another vendor.
Could you help me to get these?

MAny thanks for your help.
All the bests.
Pierre-Francois
f5bqp


I might have some kicking about. Give me a chance to check.


Thanks Baron.

All the bests
pf

The ones I have are HM6564 ! Sorry. Sad
If I come across any I'll let you know.


Thanks for your reply Baron.

All the bests
pf

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