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Spehro Pefhany
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:37 am
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:09:59 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:00:25 -0400, PeterD <peter2_at_hipson.net> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:28:15 -0700, Jim Thompson
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:09:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Jeff Johnson wrote:
But I like mushy rice!
Then you'll love Tapioca.
I do! My wife hates it. Fortunately you can get Tapioca Pudding cups
in the grocery store in the same area that has pre-made Jello
...Jim Thompson
You can get rice cookers that make regular rice, sticky rice (similar
to rice used in sushi) and rice soup. Fully programmable!
(But, proper sticky rice requires steaming to come out right, and of
course the right type of rice to start with!)
Unfortunately I only see good Japanese rice in BIG bags
...Jim Thompson
Amazon has everything:-
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:34 am
On Aug 31, 4:09 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
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Quote:
Unfortunately I only see good Japanese rice in BIG bags
There's good domestic rice, too; I like Kokuho Rose, available
here in 5# bags (and larger).
Michael A. Terrell
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:31 am
Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:29:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:09:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
?
?Jeff Johnson wrote:
??
?? But I like mushy rice!
?
?
? Then you'll love Tapioca.
I do! My wife hates it. Fortunately you can get Tapioca Pudding cups
in the grocery store in the same area that has pre-made Jello :-)
And you can chew it for hours. ;-)
Naaaah! Properly made Tapioca Pudding is smooth and nice :-)
It's amazing how many people have their diet restricted by a one-time
(or more if your Mom couldn't cook

poorly executed recipe.
My mother was an excellent cook, but some of my aunts weren't. They
had no idea how bad they were, but you should have seen their kids
ignore their mother's items at the family reunions. :)
--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.
PeterD
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:19 pm
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:09:59 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:00:25 -0400, PeterD <peter2_at_hipson.net> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:28:15 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:09:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Jeff Johnson wrote:
But I like mushy rice!
Then you'll love Tapioca.
I do! My wife hates it. Fortunately you can get Tapioca Pudding cups
in the grocery store in the same area that has pre-made Jello
...Jim Thompson
You can get rice cookers that make regular rice, sticky rice (similar
to rice used in sushi) and rice soup. Fully programmable!
(But, proper sticky rice requires steaming to come out right, and of
course the right type of rice to start with!)
Unfortunately I only see good Japanese rice in BIG bags
...Jim Thompson
Thai rice, always cook with Thai rice--it's the best there is. (And
yes, we do buy the big bags...)
PeterD
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:21 pm
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:30:29 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:58:30 -0400, the renowned PeterD
peter2_at_hipson.net> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:25:24 -0400, Rich Webb
bbew.ar_at_mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 05:59:27 -0700 (PDT), divx dude
divx.dude_at_gmail.com> wrote:
I bought this cheap rice cooker but i dont like it..
its not much better than a stovetop and pot.
the problem is that when its done cooking the rice it continues to
"warm" which just means its keeps cooking but a bit slower i think.
I would prefer the unit stop cooking when the rice is tender and still
in indivudual grains rather than going on to make a goooey mushy
conglomerate.
A ball of sticky rice is pretty much the intended end point, so it's
probably operating as designed. There *might* be U.S. market models by,
e.g., Black and Decker or somebody, that have options to make "Western"
style rice. Mine is an old Zojirushi and it, like yours, makes rice
aimed at chopsticks and a bowl instead of a fork and plate.
so i would like the cooker to STOP and cool when the cook cycle
completes. I have dismantled the cooker in attempt to sperate the
cooking and warming features but am again stumped.
Stopping it as soon as it finishes the cook cycle and enters the warming
cycle should not, by design, change the texture all that much.
What you may be able to do is to experiment with reducing the rice to
water ratio.
Having used (and continue to use) many rice cookers, I agree, the OP
is probably using too much water with his (her?) rice. Properly done,
once the cook cycle is done, warming is just that: keeps it warm,
ready to serve.
Simple rice cookers just snap off at a fixed temperature-- when the
post that's in contact with the bottom of the bowl heats sufficiently
(indicating the liquid is gone). All you can play with is the
water/rice ratio and the type of rice. Less water makes the rice
firmer, more makes it softer.
There are many kinds of rice- avoid the Japanese sushi varieties such
as the premium California Kokuho Rose type if you don't like sticky
rice. The typical ORDINARY Thai origin rices you'll find in Asian
stores (typically in 18-lb bags) are less sticky (but still a lot more
than Uncle Ben's rice). There's also Basmati (an Indian type with long
thin grains and not very sticky) and the "broken" rice favored by
Vietnamese. And also what the Chinese call "sticky rice", which is
sweet as well as sticky and also comes from Thailand- used in deserts
and wrapped in bamboo leaf or similar with filling as a snack.
I suspect if you used Western-type quick cooking rice in a rice
cooker, the results would be nothing short of horrific.
OTOH, our Zojirushi fuzzy logic rice cooker does some fancy stuff by
optionally slow-cooking initially, so it has a bit more flexibility
(but it's not quite as fast as a cheap rice cooker or just using a
pot). It can even make congee (rice gruel) but I've never tried it
(congee is a typical breakfast food), as well as brown rice (which
takes forever to cook).
All rice cookers will keep the rice warm and ready to use for a few
hours, longer than that and it can turn bad ("sour").
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
Another trick to minimizing stickyness with rice is to add either a
bit of butter or olive oil to the rice before cooking. Coats the
grains so they don't stick as much. IMHO a bit of clumping is good as
it makes it easier to eat.
Jim Thompson
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:12 pm
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:31:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:29:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:09:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
?
?Jeff Johnson wrote:
??
?? But I like mushy rice!
?
?
? Then you'll love Tapioca.
I do! My wife hates it. Fortunately you can get Tapioca Pudding cups
in the grocery store in the same area that has pre-made Jello :-)
And you can chew it for hours. ;-)
Naaaah! Properly made Tapioca Pudding is smooth and nice :-)
It's amazing how many people have their diet restricted by a one-time
(or more if your Mom couldn't cook

poorly executed recipe.
My mother was an excellent cook, but some of my aunts weren't. They
had no idea how bad they were, but you should have seen their kids
ignore their mother's items at the family reunions.
Reminds of a hilarious event...
Back around 1976-1980 we had a series of Japanese exchange students.
They always came during July-August.
One time it was decided to treat the students to "Thanksgiving",
turkey, dressing... the whole works.
To accommodate the crowd, it was all set up in a high school
cafeteria, with each "mom" creating a table's worth of food, buffet
style.
Our student, Keiko, walked all around surveying everyone's
presentation, then declares in a VERY loud voice, "My mom's is best!"
...Jim Thompson
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Democrats are best served up prepared as a hash
Otherwise the dogs won't eat them
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
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Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:26 am
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:31:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:29:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:09:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
?
?Jeff Johnson wrote:
??
?? But I like mushy rice!
?
?
? Then you'll love Tapioca.
I do! My wife hates it. Fortunately you can get Tapioca Pudding cups
in the grocery store in the same area that has pre-made Jello :-)
And you can chew it for hours. ;-)
Naaaah! Properly made Tapioca Pudding is smooth and nice :-)
It's amazing how many people have their diet restricted by a one-time
(or more if your Mom couldn't cook

poorly executed recipe.
My mother was an excellent cook, but some of my aunts weren't. They
had no idea how bad they were, but you should have seen their kids
ignore their mother's items at the family reunions.
My mother was a very good cook, as were my aunts. However, at family reunions
we'd always eat one aunt's (my mother's sister) stuff. She always made
cookies for us (had no children of her own).
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:22 am
"krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:31:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
?
?Jim Thompson wrote:
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?? On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:29:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?? ?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
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?? ?Jim Thompson wrote:
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?? ?? On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:09:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?? ?? ?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
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?? ?? ?Jeff Johnson wrote:
?? ?? ??
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?? ?? ?
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ? Then you'll love Tapioca.
?? ??
?? ?? I do! My wife hates it. Fortunately you can get Tapioca Pudding cups
?? ?? in the grocery store in the same area that has pre-made Jello
?? ?
?? ?
?? ? And you can chew it for hours.
??
?? Naaaah! Properly made Tapioca Pudding is smooth and nice
??
?? It's amazing how many people have their diet restricted by a one-time
?? (or more if your Mom couldn't cook

poorly executed recipe.
?
?
? My mother was an excellent cook, but some of my aunts weren't. They
?had no idea how bad they were, but you should have seen their kids
?ignore their mother's items at the family reunions. :)
My mother was a very good cook, as were my aunts. However, at family reunions
we'd always eat one aunt's (my mother's sister) stuff. She always made
cookies for us (had no children of her own).
It didn't matter what my mom made. Her, and my grandmother's cooking
was the first to disappear from the 20'+ table. Boy, do I miss those
days.
--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.
Michael A. Terrell
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Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:23 am
Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:31:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
?
?Jim Thompson wrote:
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?? On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:29:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?? ?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
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?? ?? ?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
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?? ?? ?Jeff Johnson wrote:
?? ?? ??
?? ?? ?? But I like mushy rice!
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ? Then you'll love Tapioca.
?? ??
?? ?? I do! My wife hates it. Fortunately you can get Tapioca Pudding cups
?? ?? in the grocery store in the same area that has pre-made Jello
?? ?
?? ?
?? ? And you can chew it for hours.
??
?? Naaaah! Properly made Tapioca Pudding is smooth and nice
??
?? It's amazing how many people have their diet restricted by a one-time
?? (or more if your Mom couldn't cook

poorly executed recipe.
?
?
? My mother was an excellent cook, but some of my aunts weren't. They
?had no idea how bad they were, but you should have seen their kids
?ignore their mother's items at the family reunions. :)
Reminds of a hilarious event...
Back around 1976-1980 we had a series of Japanese exchange students.
They always came during July-August.
One time it was decided to treat the students to "Thanksgiving",
turkey, dressing... the whole works.
To accommodate the crowd, it was all set up in a high school
cafeteria, with each "mom" creating a table's worth of food, buffet
style.
Our student, Keiko, walked all around surveying everyone's
presentation, then declares in a VERY loud voice, "My mom's is best!"
I bet that made your wife's day. :)
--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.
Jim Thompson
Guest
Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:49 pm
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:23:04 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:31:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
?
?Jim Thompson wrote:
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?? On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:29:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?? ?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
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?? ?Jim Thompson wrote:
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?? ?? On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:09:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?? ?? ?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
?? ??
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ?Jeff Johnson wrote:
?? ?? ??
?? ?? ?? But I like mushy rice!
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ? Then you'll love Tapioca.
?? ??
?? ?? I do! My wife hates it. Fortunately you can get Tapioca Pudding cups
?? ?? in the grocery store in the same area that has pre-made Jello
?? ?
?? ?
?? ? And you can chew it for hours.
??
?? Naaaah! Properly made Tapioca Pudding is smooth and nice
??
?? It's amazing how many people have their diet restricted by a one-time
?? (or more if your Mom couldn't cook

poorly executed recipe.
?
?
? My mother was an excellent cook, but some of my aunts weren't. They
?had no idea how bad they were, but you should have seen their kids
?ignore their mother's items at the family reunions. :)
Reminds of a hilarious event...
Back around 1976-1980 we had a series of Japanese exchange students.
They always came during July-August.
One time it was decided to treat the students to "Thanksgiving",
turkey, dressing... the whole works.
To accommodate the crowd, it was all set up in a high school
cafeteria, with each "mom" creating a table's worth of food, buffet
style.
Our student, Keiko, walked all around surveying everyone's
presentation, then declares in a VERY loud voice, "My mom's is best!"
:-)
I bet that made your wife's day.
She was embarrassed.
...Jim Thompson
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
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Democrats are best served up prepared as a hash
Otherwise the dogs won't eat them
Michael A. Terrell
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Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:04 pm
Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:23:04 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:31:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
?
?Jim Thompson wrote:
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?? On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:29:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?? ?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
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?? ?Jim Thompson wrote:
?? ??
?? ?? On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:09:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
?? ?? ?mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net? wrote:
?? ??
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ?Jeff Johnson wrote:
?? ?? ??
?? ?? ?? But I like mushy rice!
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ?
?? ?? ? Then you'll love Tapioca.
?? ??
?? ?? I do! My wife hates it. Fortunately you can get Tapioca Pudding cups
?? ?? in the grocery store in the same area that has pre-made Jello
?? ?
?? ?
?? ? And you can chew it for hours.
??
?? Naaaah! Properly made Tapioca Pudding is smooth and nice
??
?? It's amazing how many people have their diet restricted by a one-time
?? (or more if your Mom couldn't cook

poorly executed recipe.
?
?
? My mother was an excellent cook, but some of my aunts weren't. They
?had no idea how bad they were, but you should have seen their kids
?ignore their mother's items at the family reunions. :)
Reminds of a hilarious event...
Back around 1976-1980 we had a series of Japanese exchange students.
They always came during July-August.
One time it was decided to treat the students to "Thanksgiving",
turkey, dressing... the whole works.
To accommodate the crowd, it was all set up in a high school
cafeteria, with each "mom" creating a table's worth of food, buffet
style.
Our student, Keiko, walked all around surveying everyone's
presentation, then declares in a VERY loud voice, "My mom's is best!"
:-)
I bet that made your wife's day. :)
She was embarrassed.
Some women can't take a compliment! :)
--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.
Ade V
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Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:43 pm
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com did gone and wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:29:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
And you can chew it for hours. ;-)
Naaaah! Properly made Tapioca Pudding is smooth and nice :-)
It's amazing how many people have their diet restricted by a one-time
(or more if your Mom couldn't cook

poorly executed recipe.
School cured me of any desire to ever experience Semolina ever again.
Ghastly stuff. I believe it is pretty similar to Tapioca.
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Jim Thompson
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Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:49 pm
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:43:53 +0100, Ade V <spam_at_solutionengineers.com>
wrote:
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To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon_at_On-My-Web-Site.com did gone and wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:29:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
And you can chew it for hours. ;-)
Naaaah! Properly made Tapioca Pudding is smooth and nice :-)
It's amazing how many people have their diet restricted by a one-time
(or more if your Mom couldn't cook

poorly executed recipe.
School cured me of any desire to ever experience Semolina ever again.
Ghastly stuff. I believe it is pretty similar to Tapioca.
Tapioca pudding is WONDERFUL
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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Democrats are best served up prepared as a hash
Otherwise my dogs will refuse to eat them
Winston
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Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:53 am
On 9/2/2010 11:49 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:43:53 +0100, Ade V<spam_at_solutionengineers.com
wrote:
(...)
Quote:
School cured me of any desire to ever experience Semolina ever again.
Ghastly stuff. I believe it is pretty similar to Tapioca.
Tapioca pudding is WONDERFUL
And perfectly prepared tapioca pudding is Magical!
--Winston
Fred Abse
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Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:20 am
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:43:53 +0100, Ade V wrote:
Quote:
School cured me of any desire to ever experience Semolina ever again.
Ghastly stuff. I believe it is pretty similar to Tapioca.
Semolina is made from wheat.It's the same stuff they make pasta out of.
Tapioca is (IIRC), the pith of a tropical palm tree, AKA manioc.
When I was a kid, I got kidded that tapioca pudding was harvested from
frog pools ;-)
--
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over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
(Richard Feynman)
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