Quantiative Science Before Galileo

Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:32 am   

don't be silly. waves are generally spherical, thence only have a
speed,
sans direction. it is true, that you might see one small part
of a wave breaking upon the beach, but what
about the diametrically opposite beach?

probably, you were considering a rock o'light.


--les ducs d'oil!
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biograph...
--Light, A History!
http://wlym.com/~animations/fermat/index.html

Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:32 am   

On Jul 28, 9:42 am, spudnik <Space...@hotmail.com> wrote:

A wave front from an omnidirectional goes in all directions, a wave
can be directed as in a wave guide. If you had studied
electromagnetic wave propagation in a rectangular waveguide, you would
have heard of such terms as phase velocity and group velocity of the
wave. That is how it is described, in the standard literature. Now
that would be too much for einstieinians and their fools to grasp, of
course.

Obviously, a line of sight situation between transmission and
reception is as a guided wave, only with much more losses because the
wave is not guided. The reflections, refractions involved in wave
interactions with matter, can only be analysed with wave velocity
components.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:32 am   

On Jul 28, 10:01 am, Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Maybe needful to add, that if chaps studied engineering especially
antenna engineering and worked on same, making dull stuff radiate,
then they could never never accept such idiotic notions as quantum and
relativity, Einstein's brainchildren. The fact that einsteinians
still exist, and have mastered the art of talking gobbledygook to
impress stupid politicians to extract public moneys, is the single
greatest reason for absence of any fundamental new reserarch in the
modern world. Stupidity abounds, when the clever of the population
turn to making quick money as doctors, lawyers, managers, CEOs,
sportspersons, mediapersons, etc. Ah well, this is probably the
cyclical nature of things! Let us hope that my ideas relating to the
Internal Force Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network finally
make it to the public mind (today I am comprehensively outcasted)
before the planet turns into something like Venus, with unchecked
greenhouse effect going on apace! The more the ruling morons say they
are keen to stop it, the more they actually do for the opposite. See
how much pollution Al Gore is causing by flying, so much jet engine
pollution to thicken the layers causing the greenhouse effect!
Parasites all, lamenting the grief they cause to their host!

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:53 pm   

On Jul 15, 2:30 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:


libertarian there ever was. He may have surpassed Anne Rynd.

Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:04 pm   

On Jul 28, 12:53 pm, Darwin123 <drosen0...@yahoo.com> wrote:

It is a shame that you despise Nietze, whoever the hell that is. One
wonders who "Anne Rynd" was, as well. There was an author named "Ayn
Rand", who had some interesting points of view that could well be
described as libertarian.

Nietzsche, on the other hand, (as opposed to this "Nietze" person) had
many powerful insights. By no stretch of the imagination, though,
could Nietzsche be described as a "libertarian".

Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:44 am   

Nietzsche was reacting against the 1848 revolutions in Europe which is
why he is easy to misunderstand. His style was to keep the protonazis
from reading his material and he went insane when that didn't work.

It's interesting to compare N. with Tocqueville -- who embraced
democracy and is easy to understand -- because both often said the
same things but from a completely different POV.

Both predicted the wars of the 20th Century and both claimed that
"nothing happened during the French Revolution."

Both were against socialism but T. was no liberdope. T. believed
government should be "active and powerful." T. knew democratic
freedom, bad as it was, was the best you could do.

N was going to fight democracy, Christianity and everything else on
the planet.

The problem with N. is that he never actually says anything new. He's
really a kind of a Cliff Notes of Western Civilization.

It's 100% certain N. would take that as the greatest insult but he's a
lively writer which is good enough.


No comparison. Ayn Rand, a silly girl fiction writer, was like those
immigrants who always adopt the extreme vices of their new country and
then make the vices 100 times worse than the original.

No one would ever make those charges against N., not even the 99.999%
of the public who misunderstand him.


Bret Cahill


". . . in the very next century when Russia will, to borrow a term
from our physicists, 'discharge' herself . . ."

-- Nietzsche

Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:19 pm   

In article <26198279-7758-4f66-8725-31c7144bee94_at_t2g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, Robert Higgins <robert_higgins_61_at_hotmail.com> writes:

I think he's referring the linebacker Ray Nitschke.

--
Michael F. Stemper
#include <Standard_Disclaimer>
A bad day sailing is better than a good day at the office.

Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:08 pm   

On Jul 11, 12:32 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:


The Ptolemaic model was adopted by the Roman church and basically all
scholars until Copernicus re-introduced Aristarchus' model.

Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:09 pm   

On Jul 14, 4:57 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

Except that all pure sciences depend heavily on it.

Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:40 pm   

As well as a lot of other thangs.


Bret Cahill

Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:24 am   

she got the name from her Remington-Rand typewriter,
y'know. the sophomores on campus who thrill to it ...
nevermind.

"What Galileo Avoided" re Kepler:
http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2005/2005_50-52/2005-51/pdf/box9_49.pdf


thus:
the "dimensionality," or at leat the base
of digitization, has always been implicit
to le theorem <<derniere>> de Fermatttt, as
well as to les courbes de ... duh.

thus:
where did that PDF go, of M&M's paper,
where they show the soi-dissant "null resultage?..." anyway,
I thank the dood that posted it.

thus:
I've been saying thus-like for years,
after reading of it apres XXXValdez:
Typically, there are enough microbes in the ocean to consume half of
any oil spilled in a month or two, says Howarth. Such microbes have
been found in every ocean of the world sampled, from the Arctic to
Antarctica. But there are reasons to think that the process may occur
more quickly in the Gulf than in other oceans.

--les ducs d'oil!
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-8-the-permian-basin-gang/

--Light, A History!
http://wlym.com/~animations/fermat/index.html

Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:35 am   

On Jul 29, 9:40 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

Well not really. maths and observation are usually enough.

Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:15 pm   

we aren't all einsteinians; you are the one,
who insists upon his reification of the corpuscle,
which is just a willy-nilly, mere interpretation of "quantum
of light," vis-a-vu Planck's great idea and
the electonic trace in the photo-electrical effect .... well,
his and Infeld's acoustic fridge was pretty cool!

thus:
there are two 3d versions of the pythag.thm.,
each with different dimensional attributes.

iff you don't study Fermat's numbertheorie,
you're up Shitz Creek without a paddle; however,
it is better to start with his "reconstruction
of Euclid's porisms," although they are just planar
(synthetic geometry: see "Geometrical Fragments,"
belowsville .-)


thus:
and, the other half d'oil evaporates, as has
been shown of late (again) in the newspapers. Congress and
the Administration are a bit behind, in using Iran Oil's
big blow-out in the Gulf, to leverage BP's cap&trade nostrum;
eh?

a-yup:
Such microbes have
been found in every ocean of the world sampled, from the Arctic to
Antarctica. But there are reasons to think that the process may occur
more quickly in the Gulf than in other oceans.

--les ducs d'oil!
http://tarpley.net/online-books/

--Light, A History!
http://wlym.com/~animations/fermat/index.html

Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:53 pm   

enough of idiocy

Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:05 am   

I know; cracking the books & the lab-door are quite
a bit more of interest than the self-imposed ghettos
of Usenet.


thus:
I just found abok that addresses many of the concerns
-- from a brief perusal of about three "random" openings, and
of the index -- of the Truthers;
it's from 2005, by a couple of NYTimes reporters,
_102 Minutes_, which was the time
from the attack of the north tower (WTC1) to its fall (as you know,
the first to be hit & last to fall).

thus: I'll huff and I'll puff....
have you ever proven a theorem in (say) constructive geometry?

thus: there are two 3d versions of the pythag.thm.,
each with different dimensional attributes....
iff you don't study Fermat's numbertheorie,
you're up Shitz Creek without a paddle; however,
it is better to start with his "reconstruction
of Euclid's porisms," although they are just planar
(synthetic geometry: see "Geometrical Fragments,"
belowsville .-)

thus: and, the other half d'oil evaporates, as has
been shown of late (again) in the newspapers. Congress and
the Administration are a bit behind, in using Iran Oil's
big blow-out in the Gulf, to leverage BP's cap&trade nostrum; eh?

a-yup: Such microbes have
been found in every ocean of the world sampled, from the Arctic
Antarctica. But there are reasons to think that the process may occur
more quickly in the Gulf than in other oceans.

--les ducs d'oil!
http://tarpley.net/online-books/

--Light, A History!
http://wlym.com/~animations/fermat/index.html