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F Murtz
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Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:30 am   



I have an mkv file,about 4.8 gb.I can copy it anywhere on the hard drive
but if I try to copy it to any USB stick it says drive is full even
though it is not, and anything else will copy to it but the mkv file
says destination full and won't.

Jasen Betts
Guest

Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:30 am   



On 2016-11-20, F Murtz <haggisz_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
I have an mkv file,about 4.8 gb.I can copy it anywhere on the hard drive
but if I try to copy it to any USB stick it says drive is full even
though it is not, and anything else will copy to it but the mkv file
says destination full and won't.


FAT can't have files 4GiB or larger.

perhaps refromat as ext3 etc.


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Xeno
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Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:30 am   



On 20/11/2016 4:07 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Quote:
I have an mkv file,about 4.8 gb.I can copy it anywhere on the hard drive
but if I try to copy it to any USB stick it says drive is full even
though it is not, and anything else will copy to it but the mkv file
says destination full and won't.


What you have is a file system limit. The 2 GB limit

https://www.genie9.com/support/kb/KnowledgeArticle.aspx?KBID=113


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F Murtz
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Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:47 pm   



Jasen Betts wrote:
Quote:
On 2016-11-20, F Murtz <haggisz_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
I have an mkv file,about 4.8 gb.I can copy it anywhere on the hard drive
but if I try to copy it to any USB stick it says drive is full even
though it is not, and anything else will copy to it but the mkv file
says destination full and won't.

FAT can't have files 4GiB or larger.

perhaps refromat as ext3 etc.


Tried it on Exfat and NTFS and had problems and have since managed to
reformat another already NTFS stick and it worked.

Computer Nerd Kev
Guest

Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:28 pm   



F Murtz <haggisz_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2016-11-20, F Murtz <haggisz_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
I have an mkv file,about 4.8 gb.I can copy it anywhere on the hard drive
but if I try to copy it to any USB stick it says drive is full even
though it is not, and anything else will copy to it but the mkv file
says destination full and won't.

FAT can't have files 4GiB or larger.

perhaps refromat as ext3 etc.


Tried it on Exfat and NTFS and had problems and have since managed to
reformat another already NTFS stick and it worked.


Sounds like it must have begun to wear out and there are too many
bad areas in the Flash memory array for it to be used at its full
capacity. Presumably copying 4.8GB of small files wouldn't work
either.

Or, if you haven't tried filling it up this much before, you might
have got one of those fake memory sticks with a capacity setting
that's greater than reality.

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~misfit~
Guest

Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:30 am   



Once upon a time on usenet F Murtz wrote:
Quote:
I have an mkv file,about 4.8 gb.I can copy it anywhere on the hard
drive but if I try to copy it to any USB stick it says drive is full
even though it is not, and anything else will copy to it but the mkv
file says destination full and won't.


I'm late to the thread but I've hit the FAT32 limit like this before and
spent a while scratching my head before realising the problem.

I don't like NTFS for USB flash drives though, often the file copy window
closes long before the file is actually copied to the stick so unless the
stick has an activity LED it's hard to know when you can eject them.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

Jasen Betts
Guest

Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:24 pm   



On 2016-11-22, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe_at_gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Once upon a time on usenet F Murtz wrote:
I have an mkv file,about 4.8 gb.I can copy it anywhere on the hard
drive but if I try to copy it to any USB stick it says drive is full
even though it is not, and anything else will copy to it but the mkv
file says destination full and won't.

I'm late to the thread but I've hit the FAT32 limit like this before and
spent a while scratching my head before realising the problem.

I don't like NTFS for USB flash drives though, often the file copy window
closes long before the file is actually copied to the stick so unless the
stick has an activity LED it's hard to know when you can eject them.


click the icon in the system tray.

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~misfit~
Guest

Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:16 am   



Once upon a time on usenet Jasen Betts wrote:
Quote:
On 2016-11-22, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe_at_gmail.com> wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet F Murtz wrote:
I have an mkv file,about 4.8 gb.I can copy it anywhere on the hard
drive but if I try to copy it to any USB stick it says drive is
full even though it is not, and anything else will copy to it but
the mkv file says destination full and won't.

I'm late to the thread but I've hit the FAT32 limit like this before
and spent a while scratching my head before realising the problem.

I don't like NTFS for USB flash drives though, often the file copy
window closes long before the file is actually copied to the stick
so unless the stick has an activity LED it's hard to know when you
can eject them.

click the icon in the system tray.


LOL.

Maybe I shouldn't LOL as maybe others don't but I always do that anyway
(hence the use of the word 'eject' above). However sometimes with
NTFS-formatted sticks it can leave the compouter head-scratching for quite a
while, sometimes popping up 'the device is still in use please try again
later'. However with FAT32 when the file copy window closes the file copy is
complete and stopping the device is quick and simple. With NFTS devices it
copies 'in the background' so closes the window whenever the computer
decides to, not when the copy is done.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

Computer Nerd Kev
Guest

Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:22 pm   



~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe_at_gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Once upon a time on usenet Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2016-11-22, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe_at_gmail.com> wrote:

I don't like NTFS for USB flash drives though, often the file copy
window closes long before the file is actually copied to the stick
so unless the stick has an activity LED it's hard to know when you
can eject them.

click the icon in the system tray.

LOL.

Maybe I shouldn't LOL as maybe others don't but I always do that anyway
(hence the use of the word 'eject' above). However sometimes with
NTFS-formatted sticks it can leave the compouter head-scratching for quite a
while, sometimes popping up 'the device is still in use please try again
later'. However with FAT32 when the file copy window closes the file copy is
complete and stopping the device is quick and simple. With NFTS devices it
copies 'in the background' so closes the window whenever the computer
decides to, not when the copy is done.


I think Windows XP Pro had some options for disabling write caching on
particular drives, though I don't remember the details. It was in the
disk manager window of the advanced tools (and knowing Windows, quite
possibly littered around other settings windows as well). I've got no
idea about later Windows, the below link seems to though.

http://duckduckgo.com/lite/?q=Windows+disable+write+caching

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Benderthe.evilrobot
Guest

Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:34 am   



"~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o10fb8$e17$1_at_dont-email.me...
Quote:
Once upon a time on usenet F Murtz wrote:
I have an mkv file,about 4.8 gb.I can copy it anywhere on the hard
drive but if I try to copy it to any USB stick it says drive is full
even though it is not, and anything else will copy to it but the mkv
file says destination full and won't.

I'm late to the thread but I've hit the FAT32 limit like this before and
spent a while scratching my head before realising the problem.


The laptop I use for anattended downloads couldn't configure network with XP
so I installed Lubuntu.

So far - I haven't run into any filesize problems on the USB stick, but I
haven't actually checked whether any were bigger than 4Gb.

They were all video files, so chances are..................

~misfit~
Guest

Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:00 am   



Once upon a time on usenet Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Quote:
~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe_at_gmail.com> wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2016-11-22, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe_at_gmail.com> wrote:

I don't like NTFS for USB flash drives though, often the file copy
window closes long before the file is actually copied to the stick
so unless the stick has an activity LED it's hard to know when you
can eject them.

click the icon in the system tray.

LOL.

Maybe I shouldn't LOL as maybe others don't but I always do that
anyway (hence the use of the word 'eject' above). However sometimes
with NTFS-formatted sticks it can leave the compouter
head-scratching for quite a while, sometimes popping up 'the device
is still in use please try again later'. However with FAT32 when the
file copy window closes the file copy is complete and stopping the
device is quick and simple. With NFTS devices it copies 'in the
background' so closes the window whenever the computer decides to,
not when the copy is done.

I think Windows XP Pro had some options for disabling write caching on
particular drives, though I don't remember the details. It was in the
disk manager window of the advanced tools (and knowing Windows, quite
possibly littered around other settings windows as well). I've got no
idea about later Windows, the below link seems to though.

http://duckduckgo.com/lite/?q=Windows+disable+write+caching


Thanks Kev.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)


Guest

Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:21 am   



One other thing to touch on is that windows also reserves a little under 2gb for virtual memory. Fat has 2gb max size file. One way to cure both limitations is to firmat ntfs but this will not work in many other things. I have the same problem with my recording desk 2gm max. Maybe they will change this in firmware update.

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