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Jane_Galt
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Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:58 pm
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM but
match the number of hours in the local day.
Rich Webb
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Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:52 pm
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
<Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Quote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM but
match the number of hours in the local day.
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM but
match the number of hours in the local day.
I'd start looking at http://www.smarthome.com/_/index.aspx. Not that
they necessarily have it (or necessarily the best price if they do) but
that's kind of their playing field and they'd be likely to have
something if there is one available.
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
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Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:16 am
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz>
wrote:
Quote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM but
match the number of hours in the local day.
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM but
match the number of hours in the local day.
X10.
Rich Webb
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Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:55 am
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:16:52 -0600, "krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz
wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM but
match the number of hours in the local day.
X10.
wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM but
match the number of hours in the local day.
X10.
But not the standard ones http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Fluorescent_Lights
X10 is getting a little long in the tooth -- though so am I and I'm
using a few X10 modules on the incandescents here.
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
Jane_Galt
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Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:52 am
Rich Webb <bbew.ar_at_mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote :
Quote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:16:52 -0600, "krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
X10.
But not the standard ones http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Fluorescent_Lights
X10 is getting a little long in the tooth -- though so am I and I'm
using a few X10 modules on the incandescents here.
krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
X10.
But not the standard ones http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Fluorescent_Lights
X10 is getting a little long in the tooth -- though so am I and I'm
using a few X10 modules on the incandescents here.
I wouldnt buy from them if they were the last ones in the market. They spam
me and wont stop it.
--
- Jane Galt
"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means
of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by
force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and
suicide." -- Ayn Rand, from "Foreign Policy Drains U.S. of Main Weapons"
John Fields
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Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:58 pm
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
<Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Quote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM but
match the number of hours in the local day.
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM but
match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
---
JF
Jane_Galt
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Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:01 am
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
Quote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the local
daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight that day,
I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at 10 PM.
--
- Jane Galt
By taxing, borrowing and wasting money that the tax slaves must be forced to
pay back, Government does NOT "create jobs", it NEVER HAS. It actually
consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES
create jobs, could be using to do so!
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
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Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:46 pm
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:01:01 -0600, "Jane_Galt" <Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz>
wrote:
Quote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the local
daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight that day,
I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at 10 PM.
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the local
daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight that day,
I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at 10 PM.
A PC, X10, and SMOP.
John Fields
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Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:37 pm
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:01:01 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
<Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Quote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the local
daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight that day,
I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at 10 PM.
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the local
daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight that day,
I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at 10 PM.
---
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
---
JF
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
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Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:45 pm
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:37:36 -0600, John Fields
<jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:01:01 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the local
daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight that day,
I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at 10 PM.
---
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the local
daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight that day,
I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at 10 PM.
---
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
Table lookup.
Michael A. Terrell
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Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:48 pm
"krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:37:36 -0600, John Fields
jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:01:01 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM
but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the local
daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight that day,
I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at 10 PM.
---
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
Table lookup.
Dawn to dusk sensor?
--
For the last time: I am not a mad scientist, I'm just a very ticked off
scientist!!!
Jeff Liebermann
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Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:08 pm
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:37:36 -0600, John Fields
<jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote:
Quote:
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
JF
ongoing daily basis??
JF
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_equation>
I did a solar panel tracker (prototype) that used this method. Rather
than actually tracking the sun, which is affected by glass building
reflections, headlights, street lights, weather, eclipses, etc, I just
plug in the lat-long, and it crunches the numbers.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl_at_cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Jane_Galt
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Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:59 am
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
Quote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:01:01 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10
PM but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the
local daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight
that day, I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at
10 PM.
---
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10
PM but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the
local daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight
that day, I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at
10 PM.
---
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
Good question. If I were a programmer ( I'm not ) I'd use an ephemeris
table to pick the number of daylight hours each day and subtract them from
10PM.
--
- Jane Galt
By taxing, borrowing and wasting money that the tax slaves must be forced
to pay back, Government does NOT "create jobs", it NEVER HAS. It actually
consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES
create jobs, could be using to do so!
John Fields
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Guest
Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:48 pm
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:59:14 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
<Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Quote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:01:01 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10
PM but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the
local daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight
that day, I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at
10 PM.
---
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
Good question. If I were a programmer ( I'm not ) I'd use an ephemeris
table to pick the number of daylight hours each day and subtract them from
10PM.
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:01:01 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10
PM but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the
local daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight
that day, I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at
10 PM.
---
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
Good question. If I were a programmer ( I'm not ) I'd use an ephemeris
table to pick the number of daylight hours each day and subtract them from
10PM.
---
An ephemeris is used to locate objects in the sky; what you'd use
would be a sunrise/sunset table:
http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/astronomical-applications/data-services/rs-one-year-us
In response to your original question, I don't believe there are
appliance timers out there that do what you want.
It sounds like what you're trying to do is mimic the duration of
natural daylight, indoors, with sundown being hard-wired to 10 PM.
If you're interested I can tell you how to do that.
---
JF
Jane_Galt
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Guest
Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:17 pm
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
Quote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:59:14 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:01:01 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10
PM but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights
on at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them
off at 10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the
local daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local
daylight that day, I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and
go off at 10 PM.
---
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
Good question. If I were a programmer ( I'm not ) I'd use an ephemeris
table to pick the number of daylight hours each day and subtract them
from 10PM.
---
An ephemeris is used to locate objects in the sky; what you'd use
would be a sunrise/sunset table:
http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/astronomical-applications/data-services/rs-
one-year-us
In response to your original question, I don't believe there are
appliance timers out there that do what you want.
It sounds like what you're trying to do is mimic the duration of
natural daylight, indoors, with sundown being hard-wired to 10 PM.
If you're interested I can tell you how to do that.
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:01:01 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
John Fields <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote :
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:58:09 -0600, "Jane_Galt"
Jane__Galt_at_thegulch.xyz> wrote:
Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle
fluorescent lights?
I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10
PM but match the number of hours in the local day.
---
I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights
on at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them
off at 10 PM?
What about daylight savings time?
No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the
local daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local
daylight that day, I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and
go off at 10 PM.
---
So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
Good question. If I were a programmer ( I'm not ) I'd use an ephemeris
table to pick the number of daylight hours each day and subtract them
from 10PM.
---
An ephemeris is used to locate objects in the sky; what you'd use
would be a sunrise/sunset table:
http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/astronomical-applications/data-services/rs-
one-year-us
In response to your original question, I don't believe there are
appliance timers out there that do what you want.
It sounds like what you're trying to do is mimic the duration of
natural daylight, indoors, with sundown being hard-wired to 10 PM.
If you're interested I can tell you how to do that.
Yes exactly. I cant figure how to buy something that does it, it would seem
to need a PC and an appliance ( not just incandescent lamp ) controller
that could be programmed by it. Kind of expensive.
--
- Jane Galt
By taxing, borrowing and wasting money that the tax slaves must be forced
to pay back, Government does NOT "create jobs", it NEVER HAS. It actually
consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES
create jobs, could be using to do so!
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