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John-Melb
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Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:47 pm
Actually Chris, Trevor has some mates over on aus.electronics.
They consider him a "long standing and highly valued poster", or
something like that.
They also don't have a problem with Trevor posting his anti-gun and
anti-gun owner word vomit in their little corner of Usenet, but appear
to get very upset when any alternative viewpoint appears.
Oh, and I think Keith's a mate of Trevor's too.
atec7 7
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:52 am
Chris Diesel wrote:
Quote:
"John-Melb" <mcnamara_john_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:053bb1f0-362f-435a-a584-cce38f2f6a5c_at_z13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Actually Chris, Trevor has some mates over on aus.electronics.
They consider him a "long standing and highly valued poster", or
something like that.
They also don't have a problem with Trevor posting his anti-gun and
anti-gun owner word vomit in their little corner of Usenet, but appear
to get very upset when any alternative viewpoint appears.
Perhaps they are concerned about receiving abusive and threatening posts
from him, as I did? I would imagine that the threat of 'assault', even via
the usernet, is a real concern to most reasonable people.
If and when he does make threats act upon it and have him charged
Quote:
He's some of what he said to me,
"Understand? Or shall we begin discussing your wife's mental illness? Up to
you. Start acting like a reasonable human or act like a fuckwit." or
"I tolerate a fair bit of abuse, before I hit back. Make no mistake: When I
hit back, I hit back hard. You acted like a fuckwit. I treated you as you
deserve to be treated."
Clearly, they are not comments made be "a reasonable human".
Chris
John-Melb
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:44 pm
On Jun 7, 8:25 am, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
Quote:
On 6/06/2010 9:27 PM, John-Melb wrote:
On Jun 6, 7:49 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
B J Foster wrote:
Children can fly a plane (there is *no* lower limit on pilot's
licenses)
Not true, you can fly a plane under tuition at any age but you must be
16 to fly solo. You need to have flown solo in order to obtain a pilot's
licence.
Good to see you back Keith
So you missed me princess, thats sad, sorry if you have been pining in
my absence.
how are your friends at the Brady Bunch?
The "Brady bunch" wan't that a crappy yank sitcom? Personally I make it
a point not to watch crappy sitcoms no matter what their origin. You
perhaps aren't so choosey, so you'll have to fill us in on the details.
Here's something I posted earlier, I'd really like your opinion on it
=================================> > On Jun 4, 7:01 pm, "Trevor Wilson"<tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
Understand? Or shall we begin discussing your wife's mental illness? Up to
you. Start acting like a reasonable human or act like a fuckwit.
I'd like to know what those dickheads on aus.electronics think of
their "long standing and highly respected" poster making comments
like
this?
Well?????????
The princess stamps her foot and demands and answer, all that is missing
are the spotlights in the face and the rubber hose. Ask politely and I
may answer your question if I feel like it.
Lack of worthwhile response noted, I guess you consider such remarks
from your ";long standing and highly valued poster" to be accepatable.
Quote:
Meanwhile, here is a question for you, put politely that you may answer
if you wish.
It appears that the perpetrator of the recent nastyness in the UK was a
licenced gun owner and the weapons that he used were legally owned by
him. Presumably, he presented as a normal sane person at the time that
he obtained his licence, but due to some real or imagined sleight,
became overly vindictive leading to a major disaster. Do you think that
anybody who shows signs of excessive vindictiveness (such as conducting
vendettas agains third parties) from minor sleights should be
investigated as to their suitability to own weapons?
"Ask politely and I may answer your question if I feel like it."
My understanding was that the perpetrator in the recent UK shootings
was a convicted felon, but the Police decided to allow him to retain
his licence anyway.
Do I consider attacking someone's freedom of speech over a political
issue to be a "minor sleight"? Just to remind you, the posters on
aus.electronics accepted Trevor's anti-gun and anti-gunowner diatribes
being posted on "their" little corner of Usenet without either
challenge, comment or complaint. As soon as I started reponding to
Trevor's word vomit, they went feral. They clearly consider it OK for
an anti-gun zealot to be posting his opinions there, but are not
prepared to afford me the same right? Considering the treatment that
has been handed out to law abiding Australian gun owners over the last
decade and a half, I see nothing "minor" in their attitudes to people
like me at all.
How is Dorothy by the way?
John-Melb
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Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:55 pm
On Jun 7, 9:21 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
Quote:
John-Melb wrote:
On Jun 7, 8:25 am, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
On 6/06/2010 9:27 PM, John-Melb wrote:
On Jun 6, 7:49 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
B J Foster wrote:
Children can fly a plane (there is *no* lower limit on pilot's
licenses)
Not true, you can fly a plane under tuition at any age but you must be
16 to fly solo. You need to have flown solo in order to obtain a pilot's
licence.
Good to see you back Keith
So you missed me princess, thats sad, sorry if you have been pining in
my absence.
how are your friends at the Brady Bunch?
The "Brady bunch" wan't that a crappy yank sitcom? Personally I make it
a point not to watch crappy sitcoms no matter what their origin. You
perhaps aren't so choosey, so you'll have to fill us in on the details..
Here's something I posted earlier, I'd really like your opinion on it
=================================> >>> On Jun 4, 7:01 pm, "Trevor Wilson"<tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
Understand? Or shall we begin discussing your wife's mental illness? Up to
you. Start acting like a reasonable human or act like a fuckwit.
I'd like to know what those dickheads on aus.electronics think of
their "long standing and highly respected" poster making comments
like
this?
Well?????????
The princess stamps her foot and demands and answer, all that is missing
are the spotlights in the face and the rubber hose. Ask politely and I
may answer your question if I feel like it.
Lack of worthwhile response noted, I guess you consider such remarks
from your ";long standing and highly valued poster" to be accepatable.
I answer what I want to answer, and I certainly do not respond when the
poser of the question demands an answer. It may work in jail but it
certainly don't work here.
I guess you consider such remarks from your ";long standing and
highly valued poster" to be acceptable.
Quote:
Meanwhile, here is a question for you, put politely that you may answer
if you wish.
It appears that the perpetrator of the recent nastyness in the UK was a
licenced gun owner and the weapons that he used were legally owned by
him. Presumably, he presented as a normal sane person at the time that
he obtained his licence, but due to some real or imagined sleight,
became overly vindictive leading to a major disaster. Do you think that
anybody who shows signs of excessive vindictiveness (such as conducting
vendettas agains third parties) from minor sleights should be
investigated as to their suitability to own weapons?
"Ask politely and I may answer your question if I feel like it."
My understanding was that the perpetrator in the recent UK shootings
was a convicted felon, but the Police decided to allow him to retain
his licence anyway.
He was first granted a shotgun licence in 1995, five years after
receiving a suspended jail sentence for theft of building materials from
his then employer, and another licence for a .22 rifle in 2007.
Different to what I read, bu t then, mine was an early report, and I
haven't followed it up.
Quote:
Probably more of a misdemeanour than a felony, and absolutely nothing to
do with his mental health. Its the loonies rather than the felons that
you have to worry about. People who conduct vendettas for reasons that
only exist in their heads have to be considered suspect in this regard.
Do I consider attacking someone's freedom of speech over a political
issue to be a "minor sleight"? Just to remind you, the posters on
aus.electronics accepted Trevor's anti-gun and anti-gunowner diatribes
being posted on "their" little corner of Usenet without either
challenge, comment or complaint. As soon as I started reponding to
Trevor's word vomit, they went feral.
No they didn't john, why do you keep going on about this myth. You were
asked to desist when you started a thread totally independent from the
one that you objected to.
Yes, they did. I've previously pointed out, Trevor used
aus.electronics to launch his tirades at least four times prior to the
first time I ever posted there, none of you said squat.
Quote:
Starting off topic threads like that puts you on a level with loonies
like le turd, |-|erc and petzel. If thats the company that you want to
be associated with then don't cry if you are judged by their standards
You and your anti-mates over on aus.electronics have already made
their opinions pretty bloody clear, why should I care what they
think?
When people are treated with contempt, they learn contempt, simple
fact of life. If you cannot understand that, take some advice your
"long standing and highly valued poster" often hands out and "get a
human to explan it to you".
Quote:
They clearly consider it OK for
an anti-gun zealot to be posting his opinions there, but are not
prepared to afford me the same right? Considering the treatment that
has been handed out to law abiding Australian gun owners over the last
decade and a half, I see nothing "minor" in their attitudes to people
like me at all.
The treatment of gun owners over the last decade and a half has nothing
to do with the posters on aus.electronics so why do you blame them for
your troubles. The fact that you blame anything on them brings your
judgement seriously into question.
I'm "blaming " them for accepting anti-gun and anti-gun owner
diatribes on "their" kittle corner of Usenet, whilst going feral at
the appearance of any alternative opinion. I'm "blaming" them for
believing a licenced gun owner doesn't have the same right right to be
heard as an anti-gun zealot. They are not "responsible" for the last
decade and a half, theirs is just more of the bloody same.
Quote:
Or is it just that they are an easy target, and you are too lazy and
lack the intellect to take on the real target with any success.
No, I've collected the odd "scalp" now and then, why do you ask?
Quote:
How is Dorothy by the way?
You can dish it out but you can't take it can you? You really are a
fragile, precious little princess.
No, but I enjoy your discomfort at having you reminded of your earlier
comments
Greatest Mining Pioneer o
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:01 pm
TRIAD OF INFAMY
Or, the 3 replies from WA Premier Barnett to Australia Mining Pioneer
Jean-Paul Turcaud
First answer
Premier of Western Australia
Our ref: 200908440/SE
Mr J P Turcaud
20 Avenue des Guiardes
17000 La Rochelle
France
Dear Mr Turcaud
I am in receipt of your correspondence of October 14, 2009
I note that the matter of the discovery of Telfer mine has been
considered by several Governments over the years and your latest
letter has resulted in further review of Governments files.
Although this review has not established a direct relationship with
the discovery of gold at Telfer, your important contributions to
mineral exploration in Western Australia have been recognized and are
on public record. I draw your attention to the Geological Survey
Report 97 (2005) which states " … in October 1970, prospector Jean-
Paul Turcaud was the first to discover mineralization in the area when
he found copper in gossanous outcrops" The report is available free of
charge from the departmental website ( http//www.dmp.wa.gov.au) under
Geological Survey of Western Australia, Products.
Yours sincerely
"signature"
Colin Barnett MLA
PREMIER
16 Dec 2009
Second Answer
Premier of Western Australia
Our ref: 24-23772/NH
Mr Jean-Paul Turcaud
20 Avenue des Guiardes
17000 La Rochelle
France
Dear Mr Turcaud
Thank you for your letter dated 14 January 2010
I am pleased that you feel the Geological Survey Report ( GSWA Report
9, 2005) is affording you due recognition as being the first
prospector to report copper mineralisation in the Telfer area.
You may be aware that Bob Sheppard has recently written to me on your
behalf He indicated that he had some further suggestions for how you
may be recognised. I understand that Mr Sheppard intends to arrange a
meeting with the Director of the Geological Survey to outline his
ideas. I am sure that Mr Sheppard will keep you informed of any
developments.
Yours sincerely.
"signature"
Colin Barnett MLA
PREMIER
26 Mar 2010
Third Answer
Premier of Western Australia
Our ref: 24-30878; 24-30432
Mr Jean-Paul Turcaud
20 Avenue des Guiardes
17000 La Rochelle
France
Dear Mr Turcaud
Thank you for your correspondence in which you have outlined your
views in respect to the events that led to the discovery of Telfer
gold deposit.
Mr Sheppard has chronicled events surrounding and following the
discovery in his book The Golden Rule. Readers of Mr Sheppard 's book
will draw their own conclusions concerning the extent of your
involvement in the discovery of the mineralisation in the Telfer area.
The issues you raise are primarily between you and private companies
or individuals , and in some cases, the passage of time has probably
erased memories of events. I am unable to offer any further
suggestions on how to progress this matter from the Government's
perspective and therefore, I do not intend to enter into any further
correspondence concerning your claims relating to the discovery of
Telfer.
Yours sincerely
Signature
Colin Barnett MLA
PREMIER
17 May 2010
Vox
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:07 am
Netmask wrote:
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http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/7/1/tv-business-kisses-hdmi-goodbye/
Wow, they've already got the top of the range "gold plated" version Cat5
eternet cable for the "Audiophile enthusiasts" @ US$499.00 for 1.5 meter.
"will bring out all the nuances in digital audio reproduction"
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www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/hdmi-dead-hdbaset
Don McKenzie
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:26 am
Vox wrote:
Quote:
Cat5 using RJ-45?
Great when someone accidentally, and very easily cross plugs them in a
jungle of Ethernet and Audio cables.
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atec77
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:00 am
On 2/07/2010 5:26 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:
Quote:
legal anyway
yes ?
so allthe proposals wont meet the law on the subject
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John Tserkezis
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:11 am
atec77 > wrote:
Quote:
Great when someone accidentally, and very easily cross plugs them in a
jungle of Ethernet and Audio cables.
I don't remeber the specifics but anything more than elv on cat5e aint
legal anyway
yes ?
so allthe proposals wont meet the law on the subject
But you shouldn't see anything other than ELV on any of those anyway.
The only risk I can think of, is the RJ45 phone standard, which on ring,
can go up to 90vac or so? That would be pushing "ELV", better hope pins
4 & 5 aren't being used by anything...
Jasen Betts
Guest
Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:28 am
On 2010-07-02, Don McKenzie <5V_at_2.5A> wrote:
Quote:
pushing 100W through a RJ45 that's living on the edge!
perhaps it's 4X +48V and 4x -48V at 0.5A each?
USB over IP is avalable now (for linux atleast)
video over IP is nothing new either,
Quote:
Great when someone accidentally, and very easily cross plugs them in a
jungle of Ethernet and Audio cables.
persumably the power is common-mode so it won't fry existing circuitry
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John Tserkezis
Guest
Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:36 am
John Tserkezis wrote:
Quote:
atec77 > wrote:
Great when someone accidentally, and very easily cross plugs them in a
jungle of Ethernet and Audio cables.
I don't remeber the specifics but anything more than elv on cat5e aint
legal anyway
yes ?
so allthe proposals wont meet the law on the subject
But you shouldn't see anything other than ELV on any of those anyway.
The only risk I can think of, is the RJ45 phone standard, which on ring,
can go up to 90vac or so? That would be pushing "ELV", better hope pins
4 & 5 aren't being used by anything...
Ahh, just read the article like I should have in the first place. 100W
power also supplied. In that case, things *can* get messy.
atec77
Guest
Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:14 pm
On 2/07/2010 8:36 PM, John Tserkezis wrote:
Quote:
John Tserkezis wrote:
atec77> wrote:
Great when someone accidentally, and very easily cross plugs them in a
jungle of Ethernet and Audio cables.
I don't remeber the specifics but anything more than elv on cat5e aint
legal anyway
yes ?
so allthe proposals wont meet the law on the subject
But you shouldn't see anything other than ELV on any of those anyway.
The only risk I can think of, is the RJ45 phone standard, which on ring,
can go up to 90vac or so? That would be pushing "ELV", better hope pins
4& 5 aren't being used by anything...
Ahh, just read the article like I should have in the first place. 100W
power also supplied. In that case, things *can* get messy.
Yes 100w
well over the copper rating on cat5e as I read it , sure as shite
would warm quickly
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keithr
Guest
Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:03 pm
atec77 > wrote:
Quote:
On 2/07/2010 8:36 PM, John Tserkezis wrote:
John Tserkezis wrote:
atec77> wrote:
Great when someone accidentally, and very easily cross plugs them in a
jungle of Ethernet and Audio cables.
I don't remeber the specifics but anything more than elv on cat5e aint
legal anyway
yes ?
so allthe proposals wont meet the law on the subject
But you shouldn't see anything other than ELV on any of those anyway.
The only risk I can think of, is the RJ45 phone standard, which on ring,
can go up to 90vac or so? That would be pushing "ELV", better hope pins
4& 5 aren't being used by anything...
Ahh, just read the article like I should have in the first place. 100W
power also supplied. In that case, things *can* get messy.
Yes 100w
well over the copper rating on cat5e as I read it , sure as shite would
warm quickly
And some interesting sparks if one should pull the plug under power.
I suppose that it has to be taken seriously, there are some heavy
hitters involved.
atec7 7
Guest
Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:17 pm
keithr wrote:
Quote:
atec77 > wrote:
On 2/07/2010 8:36 PM, John Tserkezis wrote:
well over the copper rating on cat5e as I read it , sure as shite
would warm quickly
And some interesting sparks if one should pull the plug under power.
I suppose that it has to be taken seriously, there are some heavy
hitters involved.
I can't see it happening here any time soon no matter who tries
it's simply unsafe AND illegal
globular
Guest
Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:13 am
Vox wrote:
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