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hamilton
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:43 pm
Here is a nice idea:
http://www.quirky.com/products/44-Pivot-Power-Flexible-Power-Strip
Warren
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:52 pm
BubbleSorter expounded in
news:fk95i7to679uup96hr5ocn177lihgoou7c_at_4ax.com:
Quote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 05:28:11 -0800, BubbleSorter
BubbleSorter_at_URallinyerplace.org> wrote:
All that extra work, when one or a few of these would
provide so much
more.
Ooops!I forgot the link!
http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Watt-PS-10-Power-Strip/dp/B004OG9
4VW
BubbleSorter_at_URallinyerplace.org> wrote:
All that extra work, when one or a few of these would
provide so much
more.
Ooops!I forgot the link!
http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Watt-PS-10-Power-Strip/dp/B004OG9
4VW
Perhaps this has already been discussed but the spacing of the
outlets is too close together. These things need more space
between them for all the stupid wallwarts that you have to use
these days.
For this very reason I have a 2x4 with nothing but single
inline power strips on it in my basement work area/library.
The outlets all face out (as the above does) so that the
wallwarts can hang off of it. It sits on the floor between the
desk and the wall.
But as usual, several outlets are wasted due to the wallwart
size in width. Some strips are better than others in this
regard but it remains an optimization problem every time I
have to add one more.
Did I mention I hate wallwarts?
Warren.
Don Y
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:00 pm
Hi Hamilton,
On 1/27/2012 11:43 AM, hamilton wrote:
Quote:
They now sell duplex receptacles with that "pivot" feature.
(though it won't help the *spacing* issue!)
I've never been comfortable with power connections that
aren't "fixed" -- especially when they are the sort of mass
produced crap that you *know* skims on SOMETHING (everything?).
I inherited a "cord reel" some years ago. 100' of #12-3 on
a large, metal reel (so you can wind it up like a garden hose).
I dismantled it (to see how it was built) *before* I ever
trusted it in use! :> (sizable brushes and slip rings as
its heavy metal fabrication would have suggested to a more
"trusting" me! :> )
[It has since proven invaluable when I need a large tool
(e.g., jackhammer/breaker) somewhere in the yard/street. But, a
real chore to *lug* around -- I need to put some large wheels
on it so it can be pushed instead of carried!]
Dave M
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:44 am
Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:41:21 -0600, "Dave M"
dgminala4444_at_mediacombb.net> wrote:
Dave M
A woman has the last word in any argument. Anything a man says after
that is the beginning of a new argument.
Spoken like one who has been married as long as I have ;-)
...Jim Thompson
dgminala4444_at_mediacombb.net> wrote:
Dave M
A woman has the last word in any argument. Anything a man says after
that is the beginning of a new argument.
Spoken like one who has been married as long as I have ;-)
...Jim Thompson
Yep... Been through it more than once
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A woman has the last word in any argument. Anything a man says after
that is the beginning of a new argument.
who where
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:17 am
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:41:21 -0600, "Dave M"
<dgminala4444_at_mediacombb.net> wrote:
Quote:
To the OP:
Where did you find the tool boxes that you used to make your power strips?
I' d like to have a couple of them (for tool purposes).
Thnaks,
Where did you find the tool boxes that you used to make your power strips?
I' d like to have a couple of them (for tool purposes).
Thnaks,
and you needed to include 130+ lines of other posts just to ask that
of the O/P?
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:24 am
Jim Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:52:04 -0500, "P E Schoen" <paul_at_peschoen.com
wrote:
"Jon" wrote in message
news:lradned4sLM_qo7SnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d_at_earthlink.com...
I completed my power strip project and here is a picture of it:
http://jons-math.bravehost.com/powerstrip.html
Looks pretty good. But the ground pins should be UP and not DOWN,
according to some advice. http://joneakes.com/jons-fixit-database/939
I thought this was a new requirement of the code, but perhaps not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_outlet
http://www.providentelectric.com/faq.php
http://ecmweb.com/nec/2011-nec-changes-20101101/
It makes some sense to have the ground pin UP, in case the plug is not
fully engaged and a piece of metal such as a coat hanger or knife happens
to fall onto the pins. If it strikes the ground pin only, it will be safe
to touch, and if it also contacts the live pin, it will cause a short
which should trip the breaker. However, some (most?) angle cords are made
so that they work best with outlets having the ground pin DOWN.
Not a big issue, and your project appears to have solved your problem
admirably.
And here's a cool gizmo:
http://www.gizmo-central.com/computer-gizmos/accessory/pyramid-power-plug-solves-wall-wart-problems/
and:
http://www.toolfact.com/p/ge-50759-6-grounded-outlet-in-wall-adapter-white/B0009HKEXM
(I think) some wall-warts now have an outlet built in so you don't lose a
receptacle. But you can't stack very many wall-warts on top of each other.
Paul
Yep. Looks worth building. I've been contemplating re-doing my
office to get rid of the rat's nest :-)
...Jim Thompson
wrote:
"Jon" wrote in message
news:lradned4sLM_qo7SnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d_at_earthlink.com...
I completed my power strip project and here is a picture of it:
http://jons-math.bravehost.com/powerstrip.html
Looks pretty good. But the ground pins should be UP and not DOWN,
according to some advice. http://joneakes.com/jons-fixit-database/939
I thought this was a new requirement of the code, but perhaps not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_outlet
http://www.providentelectric.com/faq.php
http://ecmweb.com/nec/2011-nec-changes-20101101/
It makes some sense to have the ground pin UP, in case the plug is not
fully engaged and a piece of metal such as a coat hanger or knife happens
to fall onto the pins. If it strikes the ground pin only, it will be safe
to touch, and if it also contacts the live pin, it will cause a short
which should trip the breaker. However, some (most?) angle cords are made
so that they work best with outlets having the ground pin DOWN.
Not a big issue, and your project appears to have solved your problem
admirably.
And here's a cool gizmo:
http://www.gizmo-central.com/computer-gizmos/accessory/pyramid-power-plug-solves-wall-wart-problems/
and:
http://www.toolfact.com/p/ge-50759-6-grounded-outlet-in-wall-adapter-white/B0009HKEXM
(I think) some wall-warts now have an outlet built in so you don't lose a
receptacle. But you can't stack very many wall-warts on top of each other.
Paul
Yep. Looks worth building. I've been contemplating re-doing my
office to get rid of the rat's nest :-)
...Jim Thompson
Suggestion for minor improvement: Stagger the top and bottom rows of
receptacles so the cord from a wall wart in one row won't interfere with
the receptacle in the other.
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:31 am
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:17:01 +0800, who where <noone_at_home.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:41:21 -0600, "Dave M"
dgminala4444_at_mediacombb.net> wrote:
To the OP:
Where did you find the tool boxes that you used to make your power strips?
I' d like to have a couple of them (for tool purposes).
Thnaks,
and you needed to include 130+ lines of other posts just to ask that
of the O/P?
dgminala4444_at_mediacombb.net> wrote:
To the OP:
Where did you find the tool boxes that you used to make your power strips?
I' d like to have a couple of them (for tool purposes).
Thnaks,
and you needed to include 130+ lines of other posts just to ask that
of the O/P?
There WAS a time when it mattered.
There was even a time when idiots who remained on slow connections were
given the benefit of the doubt.
That time has passed. Nobody gives a fat flying fuck how much of what
anyone quoted when.
You should concern yourself with more important endeavors.
Michael A. Terrell
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:53 am
ehsjr wrote:
Quote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
I use three or more of these, bolted together, and with a 14 gauge
rubber cord:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_70935-53911-521511234-30L_0__?productId=3316946&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 2-Gang Metal Square Electrical Box
Item #: 70935 | Model #: 521511234-30L $1.02
AND:
http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=72451-427-907CX&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=3129499&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1
Raco .5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72451 | Model #: 907CX $1.95
OR:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_72451-53911-RS8-10R_0__?productId=3608724&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel%26page%3D2&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 0.5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72451 | Model #: RS8-10R $1.95
The Steel City cover has four threaded metal tabs to hold the outlet
better than the Raco version. You can also get a combo plate with one
duplex outlet and a switch:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_72454-53911-RS2-10L_0__?productId=3333152&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel%26page%3D2&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 0.5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72454 | Model #: RS2-10L $1.95
And you can easily convert that setup to include a sensing
outlet where you plug in any* device with an on/off switch.
When that device is turned on, all receptacles are turned
on. When that device is turned off, all receptacles except
the sensing receptacle is turned off.
I did that back in 2005 - and I just did it again. Even easier
this time. It uses an _easily_ modified GFCI, 2 resistors and
a relay. I'll send you the pictures/writeup if you like, or I
could post on ABSE. You would have to go decora style for the
GFCI, but the other j boxes can remain as they are.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_102511-427-809C_0__?productId=3181547&Ntt=electrical+box+covers+decora&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bcovers%2Bdecora%26page%3D3&facetInfo=
Post them on ABSE so that everyone can see them. :)
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:42 pm
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:24:04 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul_at_hovnanian.com> wrote:
Quote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:52:04 -0500, "P E Schoen" <paul_at_peschoen.com
wrote:
"Jon" wrote in message
news:lradned4sLM_qo7SnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d_at_earthlink.com...
I completed my power strip project and here is a picture of it:
http://jons-math.bravehost.com/powerstrip.html
Looks pretty good. But the ground pins should be UP and not DOWN,
according to some advice. http://joneakes.com/jons-fixit-database/939
I thought this was a new requirement of the code, but perhaps not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_outlet
http://www.providentelectric.com/faq.php
http://ecmweb.com/nec/2011-nec-changes-20101101/
It makes some sense to have the ground pin UP, in case the plug is not
fully engaged and a piece of metal such as a coat hanger or knife happens
to fall onto the pins. If it strikes the ground pin only, it will be safe
to touch, and if it also contacts the live pin, it will cause a short
which should trip the breaker. However, some (most?) angle cords are made
so that they work best with outlets having the ground pin DOWN.
Not a big issue, and your project appears to have solved your problem
admirably.
And here's a cool gizmo:
http://www.gizmo-central.com/computer-gizmos/accessory/pyramid-power-plug-solves-wall-wart-problems/
and:
http://www.toolfact.com/p/ge-50759-6-grounded-outlet-in-wall-adapter-white/B0009HKEXM
(I think) some wall-warts now have an outlet built in so you don't lose a
receptacle. But you can't stack very many wall-warts on top of each other.
Paul
Yep. Looks worth building. I've been contemplating re-doing my
office to get rid of the rat's nest :-)
...Jim Thompson
Suggestion for minor improvement: Stagger the top and bottom rows of
receptacles so the cord from a wall wart in one row won't interfere with
the receptacle in the other.
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:52:04 -0500, "P E Schoen" <paul_at_peschoen.com
wrote:
"Jon" wrote in message
news:lradned4sLM_qo7SnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d_at_earthlink.com...
I completed my power strip project and here is a picture of it:
http://jons-math.bravehost.com/powerstrip.html
Looks pretty good. But the ground pins should be UP and not DOWN,
according to some advice. http://joneakes.com/jons-fixit-database/939
I thought this was a new requirement of the code, but perhaps not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_outlet
http://www.providentelectric.com/faq.php
http://ecmweb.com/nec/2011-nec-changes-20101101/
It makes some sense to have the ground pin UP, in case the plug is not
fully engaged and a piece of metal such as a coat hanger or knife happens
to fall onto the pins. If it strikes the ground pin only, it will be safe
to touch, and if it also contacts the live pin, it will cause a short
which should trip the breaker. However, some (most?) angle cords are made
so that they work best with outlets having the ground pin DOWN.
Not a big issue, and your project appears to have solved your problem
admirably.
And here's a cool gizmo:
http://www.gizmo-central.com/computer-gizmos/accessory/pyramid-power-plug-solves-wall-wart-problems/
and:
http://www.toolfact.com/p/ge-50759-6-grounded-outlet-in-wall-adapter-white/B0009HKEXM
(I think) some wall-warts now have an outlet built in so you don't lose a
receptacle. But you can't stack very many wall-warts on top of each other.
Paul
Yep. Looks worth building. I've been contemplating re-doing my
office to get rid of the rat's nest :-)
...Jim Thompson
Suggestion for minor improvement: Stagger the top and bottom rows of
receptacles so the cord from a wall wart in one row won't interfere with
the receptacle in the other.
Good idea. Though, in my clean-up, I found I had a bundle of 6"-long
cords that allow spreading out the wall warts
...Jim Thompson
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ehsjr
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Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:53 am
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Quote:
ehsjr wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
I use three or more of these, bolted together, and with a 14 gauge
rubber cord:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_70935-53911-521511234-30L_0__?productId=3316946&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 2-Gang Metal Square Electrical Box
Item #: 70935 | Model #: 521511234-30L $1.02
AND:
http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=72451-427-907CX&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=3129499&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1
Raco .5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72451 | Model #: 907CX $1.95
OR:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_72451-53911-RS8-10R_0__?productId=3608724&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel%26page%3D2&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 0.5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72451 | Model #: RS8-10R $1.95
The Steel City cover has four threaded metal tabs to hold the outlet
better than the Raco version. You can also get a combo plate with one
duplex outlet and a switch:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_72454-53911-RS2-10L_0__?productId=3333152&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel%26page%3D2&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 0.5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72454 | Model #: RS2-10L $1.95
And you can easily convert that setup to include a sensing
outlet where you plug in any* device with an on/off switch.
When that device is turned on, all receptacles are turned
on. When that device is turned off, all receptacles except
the sensing receptacle is turned off.
I did that back in 2005 - and I just did it again. Even easier
this time. It uses an _easily_ modified GFCI, 2 resistors and
a relay. I'll send you the pictures/writeup if you like, or I
could post on ABSE. You would have to go decora style for the
GFCI, but the other j boxes can remain as they are.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_102511-427-809C_0__?productId=3181547&Ntt=electrical+box+covers+decora&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bcovers%2Bdecora%26page%3D3&facetInfo=
Post them on ABSE so that everyone can see them. :)
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
I use three or more of these, bolted together, and with a 14 gauge
rubber cord:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_70935-53911-521511234-30L_0__?productId=3316946&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 2-Gang Metal Square Electrical Box
Item #: 70935 | Model #: 521511234-30L $1.02
AND:
http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=72451-427-907CX&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=3129499&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1
Raco .5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72451 | Model #: 907CX $1.95
OR:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_72451-53911-RS8-10R_0__?productId=3608724&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel%26page%3D2&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 0.5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72451 | Model #: RS8-10R $1.95
The Steel City cover has four threaded metal tabs to hold the outlet
better than the Raco version. You can also get a combo plate with one
duplex outlet and a switch:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_72454-53911-RS2-10L_0__?productId=3333152&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel%26page%3D2&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 0.5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72454 | Model #: RS2-10L $1.95
And you can easily convert that setup to include a sensing
outlet where you plug in any* device with an on/off switch.
When that device is turned on, all receptacles are turned
on. When that device is turned off, all receptacles except
the sensing receptacle is turned off.
I did that back in 2005 - and I just did it again. Even easier
this time. It uses an _easily_ modified GFCI, 2 resistors and
a relay. I'll send you the pictures/writeup if you like, or I
could post on ABSE. You would have to go decora style for the
GFCI, but the other j boxes can remain as they are.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_102511-427-809C_0__?productId=3181547&Ntt=electrical+box+covers+decora&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bcovers%2Bdecora%26page%3D3&facetInfo=
Post them on ABSE so that everyone can see them. :)
Done. Posted with the title "AC Current Sensing Relay GFCI Mod".
I have to add the third picture as a reply.
Ed
Michael A. Terrell
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Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:04 pm
ehsjr wrote:
Quote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
ehsjr wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
I use three or more of these, bolted together, and with a 14 gauge
rubber cord:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_70935-53911-521511234-30L_0__?productId=3316946&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 2-Gang Metal Square Electrical Box
Item #: 70935 | Model #: 521511234-30L $1.02
AND:
http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=72451-427-907CX&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=3129499&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1
Raco .5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72451 | Model #: 907CX $1.95
OR:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_72451-53911-RS8-10R_0__?productId=3608724&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel%26page%3D2&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 0.5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72451 | Model #: RS8-10R $1.95
The Steel City cover has four threaded metal tabs to hold the outlet
better than the Raco version. You can also get a combo plate with one
duplex outlet and a switch:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_72454-53911-RS2-10L_0__?productId=3333152&Ntt=electrical+box+steel&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bsteel%26page%3D2&facetInfo=
STEEL CITY 0.5" Square Metal Electrical Box Cover
Item #: 72454 | Model #: RS2-10L $1.95
And you can easily convert that setup to include a sensing
outlet where you plug in any* device with an on/off switch.
When that device is turned on, all receptacles are turned
on. When that device is turned off, all receptacles except
the sensing receptacle is turned off.
I did that back in 2005 - and I just did it again. Even easier
this time. It uses an _easily_ modified GFCI, 2 resistors and
a relay. I'll send you the pictures/writeup if you like, or I
could post on ABSE. You would have to go decora style for the
GFCI, but the other j boxes can remain as they are.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_102511-427-809C_0__?productId=3181547&Ntt=electrical+box+covers+decora&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Delectrical%2Bbox%2Bcovers%2Bdecora%26page%3D3&facetInfo=
Post them on ABSE so that everyone can see them. :)
Done. Posted with the title "AC Current Sensing Relay GFCI Mod".
I have to add the third picture as a reply.
Thanks. I'll take a look at it. :)
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You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
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