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John Larkin
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Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:24 pm
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:05:15 -0800, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Quote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that. The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
Would you want an adult book store and a casino next to your church?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
BTW, at my very first apartment there was a huge chocolate factory
immediately next door. No problem.
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that. The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
Would you want an adult book store and a casino next to your church?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
BTW, at my very first apartment there was a huge chocolate factory
immediately next door. No problem.
That's awful, just awful.
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Joerg
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Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:20 pm
John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:05:15 -0800, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that. The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
Would you want an adult book store and a casino next to your church?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
BTW, at my very first apartment there was a huge chocolate factory
immediately next door. No problem.
That's awful, just awful.
wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that. The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
Would you want an adult book store and a casino next to your church?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
BTW, at my very first apartment there was a huge chocolate factory
immediately next door. No problem.
That's awful, just awful.
These factories do produce a quite pungent stench at times. It's not
like if you permanently walk around in a bonbon store. Probably some
sort of production step. Just like there are nasty stenches in breweries
at times.
But one learns to live with this, it never bothered me. The upside was
that everything in that city was pretty much in walking distance. Even
the university was. I moved out to the country a bit but that was
because I am just not a big city dweller.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Michael A. Terrell
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:07 pm
Joerg wrote:
Quote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that. The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
So, it's okay that they used slaves, since they didn't have cranes?
Quote:
Would you want an adult book store and a casino next to your church?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
Is it open during your services, with loud music, fighting and
gunshots?
Quote:
BTW, at my very first apartment there was a huge chocolate factory
immediately next door. No problem.
immediately next door. No problem.
Chocolate boilers? They would melt.
--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
Joerg
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:07 pm
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Quote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that. The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
So, it's okay that they used slaves, since they didn't have cranes?
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that. The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
So, it's okay that they used slaves, since they didn't have cranes?
I never said it was ok. Romans were very much able to build stuff
without slave labor, and they did. Back in their days they were clearly
the technological leaders. Talk to an old native American chief, ask
them whether they had indoor plumbing, heated bathtubs and all that in
their teepees 1500 years ago.
But all that went into the heads of some of the Roman emporers who then
did rather loco things. Like trying to concquer the whole world, without
really knowing what good that would do even if they hadsucceeded.
Quote:
Would you want an adult book store and a casino next to your church?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
Is it open during your services, with loud music, fighting and
gunshots?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
Is it open during your services, with loud music, fighting and
gunshots?
It is open, yes, sometimes loud music but that gets drowned out when the
choo-choo train comes around. Gun shots, not so much. Although it does
happen out here.
Quote:
BTW, at my very first apartment there was a huge chocolate factory
immediately next door. No problem.
Chocolate boilers? They would melt.
No, massive steel cookers. Sometimes there was a pungent smell. if you
pull up a sat photo for "Deliusstrasse, Aachen, Germany" you can see the
factory. It's still there. But it looks like they may have converted the
whole place into lofts.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Les Cargill
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Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:42 am
Joerg wrote:
Quote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that. The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
Would you want an adult book store and a casino next to your church?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
BTW, at my very first apartment there was a huge chocolate factory
immediately next door. No problem.
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that. The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
Would you want an adult book store and a casino next to your church?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
BTW, at my very first apartment there was a huge chocolate factory
immediately next door. No problem.
Were there Oompa-Loompas?
--
Les Cargill
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Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:13 am
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:22 GMT, nico_at_puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:
Quote:
upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
Quote:
I assume you are in Finland where it can get much colder. I
recall walking around in Helsinki when it was -10 deg C.
Today we had -10 C in Helsinki, and -35 C in other parts of the
country.
recall walking around in Helsinki when it was -10 deg C.
Today we had -10 C in Helsinki, and -35 C in other parts of the
country.
Today it is -25 C in Helsinki and down to -40 C at the Arctic Circle.
Quote:
There is no
way you can heat an entire house in with 6 to 9kW in such conditions.
Check again!
You might be interesting looking at
http://www.fingrid.fi/portal/in_english/electricity_market/load_and_generation/
with 13.3 GW consumption today, with a 5.5 million population, this is
slightly more than 2 kW/person on average.
way you can heat an entire house in with 6 to 9kW in such conditions.
Check again!
You might be interesting looking at
http://www.fingrid.fi/portal/in_english/electricity_market/load_and_generation/
with 13.3 GW consumption today, with a 5.5 million population, this is
slightly more than 2 kW/person on average.
The consumption yesterday was 14.3 GW, an increase of just 1000 MW or
200 W/person. At these temperatures air-to-air heat pumps are more or
less useless, so those houses are now on direct electric heating.
This just shows that with proper insulation, the power consumption can
be kept at reasonable levels.
Quote:
Thats not per home!
Multiply my figures by 2 or 3 to get comparative figures.
Quote:
I still find that difficult to believe. In my own home (2 adults + 2
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
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Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:25 pm
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:13:38 +0200, upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:22 GMT, nico_at_puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:
upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
I assume you are in Finland where it can get much colder. I
recall walking around in Helsinki when it was -10 deg C.
Today we had -10 C in Helsinki, and -35 C in other parts of the
country.
Today it is -25 C in Helsinki and down to -40 C at the Arctic Circle.
wrote:
upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
I assume you are in Finland where it can get much colder. I
recall walking around in Helsinki when it was -10 deg C.
Today we had -10 C in Helsinki, and -35 C in other parts of the
country.
Today it is -25 C in Helsinki and down to -40 C at the Arctic Circle.
A couple of days ago it was -80F (-62C) in Alaska. OTOH, Winter never
happened here (a couple of nights got down close to 20F). Highs been in the
60s and 70s all week.
Quote:
There is no
way you can heat an entire house in with 6 to 9kW in such conditions.
Check again!
You might be interesting looking at
http://www.fingrid.fi/portal/in_english/electricity_market/load_and_generation/
with 13.3 GW consumption today, with a 5.5 million population, this is
slightly more than 2 kW/person on average.
The consumption yesterday was 14.3 GW, an increase of just 1000 MW or
200 W/person. At these temperatures air-to-air heat pumps are more or
less useless, so those houses are now on direct electric heating.
way you can heat an entire house in with 6 to 9kW in such conditions.
Check again!
You might be interesting looking at
http://www.fingrid.fi/portal/in_english/electricity_market/load_and_generation/
with 13.3 GW consumption today, with a 5.5 million population, this is
slightly more than 2 kW/person on average.
The consumption yesterday was 14.3 GW, an increase of just 1000 MW or
200 W/person. At these temperatures air-to-air heat pumps are more or
less useless, so those houses are now on direct electric heating.
They work just fine here. In fact, they're the most common heating type. With
the hot and humid summers air conditioning is a requirement, so the
installation cost of the heat pumps is almost zero. Electricity is cheap, too
(no lefties allowed), so it works pretty well.
Quote:
This just shows that with proper insulation, the power consumption can
be kept at reasonable levels.
be kept at reasonable levels.
In the '80s, some new homes here were "super-insulated". It was found that
the outgassing of common furnishings caused indoor pollution worse than any
city. That's not a solution, either.
Quote:
Thats not per home!
Multiply my figures by 2 or 3 to get comparative figures.
I still find that difficult to believe. In my own home (2 adults + 2
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
Multiply my figures by 2 or 3 to get comparative figures.
I still find that difficult to believe. In my own home (2 adults + 2
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
Go for it. It is *not* going to work in the US, regardless of the socialists'
wet dreams of an EV in every garage.
Joerg
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Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:04 pm
Les Cargill wrote:
Quote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that.
The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much
better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
Would you want an adult book store and a casino next to your church?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
BTW, at my very first apartment there was a huge chocolate factory
immediately next door. No problem.
Were there Oompa-Loompas?
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Get rid of zoning laws. In many areas it can be as simple as that.
The
Romans didn't have zoning laws, so why do we?
Rome fell because of bad government.
True. But that does not mean all their ideas were bad. For example,
their building quality was more than an order of magnitude better than
what we consider buildings today. Much of it is actually still in use.
Zoning laws are in most cases nonsensical. There the Romans did much
better.
With slave labor that was pushed to the point of collapse or death.
Nowadays they wouldn't need slave labor anymore because there cranes and
such.
Would you want an adult book store and a casino next to your church?
How about a racetrack, or boiler factory?
There already is a pub across from it, plus numerous restaurants, a
children's train circuit, a bank, a coffee shop. What's the problem with
that?
BTW, at my very first apartment there was a huge chocolate factory
immediately next door. No problem.
Were there Oompa-Loompas?
Where the women wear just leaves? Haven't seen any.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Joerg
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Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:04 am
krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:13:38 +0200, upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:22 GMT, nico_at_puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:22 GMT, nico_at_puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:
[...]
Quote:
I still find that difficult to believe. In my own home (2 adults + 2
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
Go for it. It is *not* going to work in the US, regardless of the socialists'
wet dreams of an EV in every garage.
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
Go for it. It is *not* going to work in the US, regardless of the socialists'
wet dreams of an EV in every garage.
For America it would at least have to be this kind of vehicle :-)
http://jalopnik.com/5219773/100-mpg-electric-hummer-h3-doesnt-actually-get-100-mpg
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
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Guest
Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:31 am
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:04:06 -0800, Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:13:38 +0200, upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:22 GMT, nico_at_puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:
[...]
I still find that difficult to believe. In my own home (2 adults + 2
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
Go for it. It is *not* going to work in the US, regardless of the socialists'
wet dreams of an EV in every garage.
For America it would at least have to be this kind of vehicle :-)
http://jalopnik.com/5219773/100-mpg-electric-hummer-h3-doesnt-actually-get-100-mpg
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:13:38 +0200, upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:22 GMT, nico_at_puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:
[...]
I still find that difficult to believe. In my own home (2 adults + 2
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
Go for it. It is *not* going to work in the US, regardless of the socialists'
wet dreams of an EV in every garage.
For America it would at least have to be this kind of vehicle :-)
http://jalopnik.com/5219773/100-mpg-electric-hummer-h3-doesnt-actually-get-100-mpg
Whatever floats your boat.
Nico Coesel
Guest
Guest
Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:44 pm
Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:13:38 +0200, upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:22 GMT, nico_at_puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:
[...]
I still find that difficult to believe. In my own home (2 adults + 2
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
Go for it. It is *not* going to work in the US, regardless of the socialists'
wet dreams of an EV in every garage.
For America it would at least have to be this kind of vehicle :-)
http://jalopnik.com/5219773/100-mpg-electric-hummer-h3-doesnt-actually-get-100-mpg
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:13:38 +0200, upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:22 GMT, nico_at_puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:
[...]
I still find that difficult to believe. In my own home (2 adults + 2
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
Go for it. It is *not* going to work in the US, regardless of the socialists'
wet dreams of an EV in every garage.
For America it would at least have to be this kind of vehicle :-)
http://jalopnik.com/5219773/100-mpg-electric-hummer-h3-doesnt-actually-get-100-mpg
That figure is probably the MPG equivalent which is a complete bogus
number.
--
Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply
indicates you are not using the right tools...
nico_at_nctdevpuntnl (punt=.)
--------------------------------------------------------------
Joerg
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Guest
Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:37 pm
Nico Coesel wrote:
Quote:
Joerg <invalid_at_invalid.invalid> wrote:
krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:13:38 +0200, upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:22 GMT, nico_at_puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:
[...]
I still find that difficult to believe. In my own home (2 adults + 2
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
Go for it. It is *not* going to work in the US, regardless of the socialists'
wet dreams of an EV in every garage.
For America it would at least have to be this kind of vehicle :-)
http://jalopnik.com/5219773/100-mpg-electric-hummer-h3-doesnt-actually-get-100-mpg
That figure is probably the MPG equivalent which is a complete bogus
number.
krw_at_att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:13:38 +0200, upsidedown_at_downunder.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:22 GMT, nico_at_puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel)
wrote:
[...]
I still find that difficult to believe. In my own home (2 adults + 2
kids) we use about 16000kWh per year (hot water + electricity).
Apparently you have two teenage daughters that both like to spend an
hour in the shower each day :-)
Anyway, returning to the original subject about EVs, according to my
calculations, the current infrastructure would be sufficient in
Finland for at least 9-10 month a year, if all commuting traffic would
be switched to EVs. To handle the winter months, one new nuclear
reactor would be needed as well as some strengthening of the
distribution network.
Go for it. It is *not* going to work in the US, regardless of the socialists'
wet dreams of an EV in every garage.
For America it would at least have to be this kind of vehicle :-)
http://jalopnik.com/5219773/100-mpg-electric-hummer-h3-doesnt-actually-get-100-mpg
That figure is probably the MPG equivalent which is a complete bogus
number.
But it looks good in the glossy brochure :-)
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Regards, Joerg
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