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Adam Smith
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:01 am
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Michael Karas
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:54 am
In article <xPSdnTRW7MNeaefRnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d_at_speakeasy.net>,
adamsmith_at_nospam.com says...
Quote:
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Take a look at:
http://www.designspark.com/pcb
Haven't tried this yet, but the comments on the web site seem positive.
Effectively subsidised by RS components. Seemingly no limitations on
layers or size.
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Michael Karas
Carousel Design Solutions
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Bill Sloman
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:40 am
On Aug 30, 10:01 am, Adam Smith <adamsm...@nospam.com> wrote:
Quote:
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Search for gEDA and PCB. They are gnu-licensed and run under Linux -
free but not all that easy.
http://www.gpleda.org/index.html
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Sergey Kubushyn
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:17 am
Michael Karas <mkaras_at_carouseldashdesign.com> wrote:
Quote:
In article <xPSdnTRW7MNeaefRnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d_at_speakeasy.net>,
adamsmith_at_nospam.com says...
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Take a look at:
http://www.designspark.com/pcb
Haven't tried this yet, but the comments on the web site seem positive.
Effectively subsidised by RS components. Seemingly no limitations on
layers or size.
adamsmith_at_nospam.com says...
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Take a look at:
http://www.designspark.com/pcb
Haven't tried this yet, but the comments on the web site seem positive.
Effectively subsidised by RS components. Seemingly no limitations on
layers or size.
It is marginal. Source is not available and there is no developers community
behind it. It will cease to exist as soon as funding got dry.
I suggest gEDA/PCB. It is a community open source project and as such it
does not rely on anybody funding it. It works well and getting better and
better every day. And there is no entity to fail behind it.
Freeware != Open Source. It does not even assume source. There is nobody to
pick up the torch once the original holder dropped it.
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Lostgallifreyan
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:39 am
Adam Smith <adamsmith_at_nospam.com> wrote in news:eIedneHoi4kdT-
fRnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d_at_speakeasy.net:
Quote:
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware, if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Check out what's on RS Component's site. They're makign a version of a
program free to encourage enterprise. I can't remember offhand what it is but
it was a full set of tools of the kind normally costing a lot of money. This
is a very new arrangement, they started advertising it only about a month
back.
Ian Bell
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:50 pm
Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
Quote:
Michael Karas<mkaras_at_carouseldashdesign.com> wrote:
In article<xPSdnTRW7MNeaefRnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d_at_speakeasy.net>,
adamsmith_at_nospam.com says...
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Take a look at:
http://www.designspark.com/pcb
Haven't tried this yet, but the comments on the web site seem positive.
Effectively subsidised by RS components. Seemingly no limitations on
layers or size.
It is marginal. Source is not available and there is no developers community
behind it. It will cease to exist as soon as funding got dry.
I suggest gEDA/PCB. It is a community open source project and as such it
does not rely on anybody funding it. It works well and getting better and
better every day. And there is no entity to fail behind it.
Freeware != Open Source. It does not even assume source. There is nobody to
pick up the torch once the original holder dropped it.
---
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* KSI_at_home KOI8 Net< > The impossible we do immediately. *
* Las Vegas NV, USA< > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
******************************************************************
In article<xPSdnTRW7MNeaefRnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d_at_speakeasy.net>,
adamsmith_at_nospam.com says...
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Take a look at:
http://www.designspark.com/pcb
Haven't tried this yet, but the comments on the web site seem positive.
Effectively subsidised by RS components. Seemingly no limitations on
layers or size.
It is marginal. Source is not available and there is no developers community
behind it. It will cease to exist as soon as funding got dry.
I suggest gEDA/PCB. It is a community open source project and as such it
does not rely on anybody funding it. It works well and getting better and
better every day. And there is no entity to fail behind it.
Freeware != Open Source. It does not even assume source. There is nobody to
pick up the torch once the original holder dropped it.
---
******************************************************************
* KSI_at_home KOI8 Net< > The impossible we do immediately. *
* Las Vegas NV, USA< > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
******************************************************************
In addition you could try FreePCB and Kicad, both free and open source.
Cheers
Ian
Ian Bell
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:58 pm
Michael Karas wrote:
Quote:
In article<xPSdnTRW7MNeaefRnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d_at_speakeasy.net>,
adamsmith_at_nospam.com says...
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Take a look at:
http://www.designspark.com/pcb
Haven't tried this yet, but the comments on the web site seem positive.
Effectively subsidised by RS components. Seemingly no limitations on
layers or size.
adamsmith_at_nospam.com says...
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Take a look at:
http://www.designspark.com/pcb
Haven't tried this yet, but the comments on the web site seem positive.
Effectively subsidised by RS components. Seemingly no limitations on
layers or size.
Why does it insist on a stupid activation code for something that is free? To get this you have to
give your name, company and email details. What a scam.
Cheers
Ian
Ian Bell
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:40 pm
Ian Bell wrote:
Quote:
Michael Karas wrote:
In article<xPSdnTRW7MNeaefRnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d_at_speakeasy.net>,
adamsmith_at_nospam.com says...
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Take a look at:
http://www.designspark.com/pcb
Haven't tried this yet, but the comments on the web site seem positive.
Effectively subsidised by RS components. Seemingly no limitations on
layers or size.
Why does it insist on a stupid activation code for something that is
free? To get this you have to give your name, company and email details.
What a scam.
Cheers
Ian
In article<xPSdnTRW7MNeaefRnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d_at_speakeasy.net>,
adamsmith_at_nospam.com says...
What is a good reliable PCB layout software, open source or freeware,if
not the best, that is available?
last posting on this was in early 2008, things might have changed - just
wanted to be up to date.
Take a look at:
http://www.designspark.com/pcb
Haven't tried this yet, but the comments on the web site seem positive.
Effectively subsidised by RS components. Seemingly no limitations on
layers or size.
Why does it insist on a stupid activation code for something that is
free? To get this you have to give your name, company and email details.
What a scam.
Cheers
Ian
Does not run well under wine and not a single tube or tube socket on the libraries.
Not for me.
Cheers
iIan
Joel Koltner
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:29 pm
"Sergey Kubushyn" <ksi_at_koi8.net> wrote in message
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It is marginal. Source is not available and there is no developers community
behind it. It will cease to exist as soon as funding got dry.
behind it. It will cease to exist as soon as funding got dry.
Oh, please. While I'm all for open-source software, and while gEDA is a fine
movement, for someone just looking to rapidly crank out a board the
free-as-in-beer solutions such as DesignSpark's there (which is an OEMed
version of WestDev's Easy-PC), is generally far faster and easier than diving
into gEDA.
The closest open-source package would be KiCAD, I expect.
Quote:
I suggest gEDA/PCB. It is a community open source project and as such it
does not rely on anybody funding it. It works well and getting better and
better every day. And there is no entity to fail behind it.
does not rely on anybody funding it. It works well and getting better and
better every day. And there is no entity to fail behind it.
There's also absolutely zero guarantee of support or bug fixes either.
---Joel
Joel Koltner
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:33 pm
"Ian Bell" <ruffrecords_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Does not run well under wine and not a single tube or tube socket on the
libraries.
libraries.
Those WestDev guys are using a reasonably recent version of Visual Studio .Net
(possibly 2007?), and very few things compiled with it "run well under WINE."
Joel Koltner
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:49 pm
"JeffM" <jeffm__at_email.com> wrote in message
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[1] "Free" means that source code is available
and that you can alter it and redistribute that.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html#content
If you mean zero-cost but proprietary, use the term "freeware".
and that you can alter it and redistribute that.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html#content
If you mean zero-cost but proprietary, use the term "freeware".
Good luck getting the masses to adopt that usage of the word.
How's Stallman doing on getting the masses to talk about "GNU-Linux" rather
than just "Linux" these days?
Ian Bell
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:53 pm
JeffM wrote:
Quote:
Ian Bell wrote:
you could try FreePCB and Kicad, both free and open source.
If you have KiCAD, you don't need FreePCB.
you could try FreePCB and Kicad, both free and open source.
If you have KiCAD, you don't need FreePCB.
Not entirely true. I have both but prefer to use FreePCB for simpler designs.
Quote:
OTOH, if you have FreePCB, you *will* need a schematic capture app;
Not entirely true. The simple designs I knock up on FreePCB I do from a hand drawn schematic and not
net list (unless you wnt to call a pencil and 'app').
Quote:
the usual one mentioned is TinyCAD (also GPL'd).
FreePCB and TinyCAD are Windoze-only
but both work using WINE under Linux or OS X.
FreePCB and TinyCAD are Windoze-only
but both work using WINE under Linux or OS X.
TinyCAD is problematic under WINE. It can be done but it takes a while to find the right answers on
the net - unless that has been fixed in a newer version.
Cheers
Ian
Joel Koltner
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:30 pm
"linnix" <me_at_linnix.info-for.us> wrote in message
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Yes, I use Visual Studio 5.0 for my BGA designer. Works on Win98, XP,
Vista and Win7 without special DLL installations. I haven't find a
good reason to upgrade so far.
Vista and Win7 without special DLL installations. I haven't find a
good reason to upgrade so far.
I have a friend who works as a programmer and they stayed on Visual Studio 6
from the time it came out (1998) until just a year or two ago now when they
switched to Visual Studio 2008 -- many of the interim versions were pretty
poor, being far less usable than VS6 was.
So you haven't missed out on much.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:58 pm
On 30/08/2010 18:35, JeffM wrote:
Quote:
Ian Bell wrote:
you could try FreePCB and Kicad, both free and open source.
If you have KiCAD, you don't need FreePCB.
OTOH, if you have FreePCB, you *will* need a schematic capture app;
the usual one mentioned is TinyCAD (also GPL'd).
FreePCB and TinyCAD are Windoze-only
but both work using WINE under Linux or OS X.
It would also be good if folks asking about software
would state what platform they are running.
...and before someone applauds
Cadsoft's non-free[1] DRM'd crippleware demo:
http://tinyurl.com/TheEAGLE-Virus
you could try FreePCB and Kicad, both free and open source.
If you have KiCAD, you don't need FreePCB.
OTOH, if you have FreePCB, you *will* need a schematic capture app;
the usual one mentioned is TinyCAD (also GPL'd).
FreePCB and TinyCAD are Windoze-only
but both work using WINE under Linux or OS X.
It would also be good if folks asking about software
would state what platform they are running.
...and before someone applauds
Cadsoft's non-free[1] DRM'd crippleware demo:
http://tinyurl.com/TheEAGLE-Virus
There is no problem using Eagle for free with 2 layers and a board less
than 4" x 3"
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JeffM
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:35 pm
Ian Bell wrote:
Quote:
you could try FreePCB and Kicad, both free and open source.
If you have KiCAD, you don't need FreePCB.
If you have KiCAD, you don't need FreePCB.
OTOH, if you have FreePCB, you *will* need a schematic capture app;
the usual one mentioned is TinyCAD (also GPL'd).
FreePCB and TinyCAD are Windoze-only
but both work using WINE under Linux or OS X.
It would also be good if folks asking about software
would state what platform they are running.
....and before someone applauds
Cadsoft's non-free[1] DRM'd crippleware demo:
http://tinyurl.com/TheEAGLE-Virus
..
..
[1] "Free" means that source code is available
and that you can alter it and redistribute that.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html#content
If you mean zero-cost but proprietary, use the term "freeware".
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