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Lostgallifreyan
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Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:19 pm   



Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use credit
cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large specialised
IP rated stuff...

baron
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Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:28 pm   



Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Quote:
Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Lostgallifreyan
Guest

Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:28 pm   



baron <baron.nospam_at_linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrelte$54v$2_at_news.eternal-september.org:

Quote:
Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.


I thought of that already... I looked for a short extension with that in
mind, and found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350331980372&ssPageName=
STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's better, I only need to make a small bracket to clamp it behind a panel.
Epoxy is a messy way to do things like this.

Even so, that one I found first is best, it's weird that they aren't all over
the place like USB and audio connectors for panel mounting. Even the ITX
scene which has been making custom boxes for years hasn't got this sorted
yet. If you want USB and FireWire, the mainboard makers supply them, never
mind other sources. Only RJ45 stuff lacks these choices. It's all specialised
panels, exotic IP rated stuff, or very cheap PCB mounts. Chassis mounts
exist, but rare, expensive even for the most basic. The only firm I found
that makes them with practical results has to make their own and probably
won't sell to the public. That eBay find was lucky, it's as close as I'll
likely ever get, let alone cheaply.

Adrian C
Guest

Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:51 pm   



On 30/04/2010 13:19, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Quote:
Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use credit
cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large specialised
IP rated stuff...

Google "keystone jack"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_module

CPC sell them, and a 'housing'.

--
Adrian C

Michael A. Terrell
Guest

Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:54 pm   



Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Quote:

baron <baron.nospam_at_linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrelte$54v$2_at_news.eternal-september.org:

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.


I thought of that already... I looked for a short extension with that in
mind, and found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350331980372&ssPageName=
STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's better, I only need to make a small bracket to clamp it behind a panel.
Epoxy is a messy way to do things like this.

Even so, that one I found first is best, it's weird that they aren't all over
the place like USB and audio connectors for panel mounting. Even the ITX
scene which has been making custom boxes for years hasn't got this sorted
yet. If you want USB and FireWire, the mainboard makers supply them, never
mind other sources. Only RJ45 stuff lacks these choices. It's all specialised
panels, exotic IP rated stuff, or very cheap PCB mounts. Chassis mounts
exist, but rare, expensive even for the most basic. The only firm I found
that makes them with practical results has to make their own and probably
won't sell to the public. That eBay find was lucky, it's as close as I'll
likely ever get, let alone cheaply.


Cut up a wall plate made to hold the modular jacks. Then use a couple
screws to mount it to the rear of the panel.

<http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=4844&section=10423&minisite=10026>
is an example that use modular jacks.

<http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=401991&section=22229&minisite=10026>
is one piece plastic.

They also have steel plates:

<http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=408993&section=10420&minisite=10026>
They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same
size as their Cat 5 jacks.

This is a US company, but you should be able to find something
similar.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

Lostgallifreyan
Guest

Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:54 pm   



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d_at_earthlink.com:

Quote:

Lostgallifreyan wrote:

baron <baron.nospam_at_linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrelte$54v$2_at_news.eternal-september.org:

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.


I thought of that already... I looked for a short extension with that
in mind, and found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350331980372&ssPage
Name= STRK:MEWNX:IT
It's better, I only need to make a small bracket to clamp it behind a
panel. Epoxy is a messy way to do things like this.

Even so, that one I found first is best, it's weird that they aren't
all over the place like USB and audio connectors for panel mounting.
Even the ITX scene which has been making custom boxes for years hasn't
got this sorted yet. If you want USB and FireWire, the mainboard makers
supply them, never mind other sources. Only RJ45 stuff lacks these
choices. It's all specialised panels, exotic IP rated stuff, or very
cheap PCB mounts. Chassis mounts exist, but rare, expensive even for
the most basic. The only firm I found that makes them with practical
results has to make their own and probably won't sell to the public.
That eBay find was lucky, it's as close as I'll likely ever get, let
alone cheaply.


Cut up a wall plate made to hold the modular jacks. Then use a couple
screws to mount it to the rear of the panel.

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=4844&section=10
423&minisite=10026> is an example that use modular jacks.

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=401991&section=
22229&minisite=10026> is one piece plastic.

They also have steel plates:

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=408993&section=
10420&minisite=10026> They list this for telephone use, but their
telephone jacks are the same size as their Cat 5 jacks.

This is a US company, but you should be able to find something
similar.



That too I wanted to avoid, but it is a good idea. Thanks for the linkage. If
the eBay ones I found end up being tacky I'll look at this next.

Lostgallifreyan
Guest

Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:58 pm   



Adrian C <email_at_here.invalid> wrote in
news:840938Fb0tU1_at_mid.individual.net:

Quote:
On 30/04/2010 13:19, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Does anyone know of something available in Britain, like this?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/38jh665

Ideally someone who takes checque, cash or Paypal, as I don't use
credit cards.

Other ideas for SMALL panel mounted connectors welcome. No large
specialised IP rated stuff...

Google "keystone jack"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_module

CPC sell them, and a 'housing'.


Interesting. While it might not best solve my current need, the fact that it
adapts so many types neatly makes it one to check out so I will, though it
appears I might lose the advantage of small fittings to large plates. :)

In the end there's no real substitute for the classic jack hole and two
mounting screws thing. The eBay find is nice because a strip of metal and a
drill is all I need to turn it into that. (Part of the 'cost' of a thing is
finding a way to get it to me, and this is easiest so far).

Lostgallifreyan
Guest

Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:02 pm   



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d_at_earthlink.com:

Quote:
They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same
size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might not
provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff too.

Baron
Guest

Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:53 pm   



Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Quote:
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d_at_earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the
same size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might
not provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff
too.

If you just want some RJ45 Sockets, I can send you some. They are PCB
mounting, but easy to solder leads to. The reason I
mentioned "Araldite" is because I have used it to mount and secure
them in the side of project boxes. I have the above RJ45 wall plates as
well ! They fasten into a standard 1" plaster board shell.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Michael A. Terrell
Guest

Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:20 pm   



Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Quote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d_at_earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same
size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might not
provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff too.


Just make sure the plate & connector are the same brand. Some brands
aren't interchangeable.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

Lostgallifreyan
Guest

Sat May 01, 2010 8:12 am   



Baron <baron.nospam_at_linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrffvr$grp$1_at_news.eternal-september.org:

Quote:
Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d_at_earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the
same size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might
not provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff
too.

If you just want some RJ45 Sockets, I can send you some. They are PCB
mounting, but easy to solder leads to. The reason I
mentioned "Araldite" is because I have used it to mount and secure
them in the side of project boxes. I have the above RJ45 wall plates as
well ! They fasten into a standard 1" plaster board shell.


Nice offer. Thanks. I'm ok though, those things I found on eBay are nice,
they just need clamping somehow, no soldering or crimping or anything. I'm
using them to take the stress off an ITX board in a 1U rack case so it can
be reconfigured often, reliably, so if it plugs without extra fitting, so
much the better.

On the other hand, if you're the Baron as in Rob of the band Amebix, then I
do want to get in contact for sure, it's been over 20 years... >Smile

Lostgallifreyan
Guest

Sat May 01, 2010 8:13 am   



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in
news:vp6dnSznHc4W1EbWnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d_at_earthlink.com:

Quote:

Lostgallifreyan wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d_at_earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same
size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might not
provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff too.


Just make sure the plate & connector are the same brand. Some brands
aren't interchangeable.



Yep, that's kind of the problem with them... looks like proprietary thinking
beat common sense. It might explain why the simple standard of a chassis
mount socket was so assiduously avoided by so many.

Baron
Guest

Sat May 01, 2010 9:05 pm   



Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Quote:
Baron <baron.nospam_at_linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hrffvr$grp$1_at_news.eternal-september.org:

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d_at_earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the
same size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might
not provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone
stuff too.

If you just want some RJ45 Sockets, I can send you some. They are PCB
mounting, but easy to solder leads to. The reason I
mentioned "Araldite" is because I have used it to mount and secure
them in the side of project boxes. I have the above RJ45 wall plates
as
well ! They fasten into a standard 1" plaster board shell.


Nice offer. Thanks. I'm ok though, those things I found on eBay are
nice, they just need clamping somehow, no soldering or crimping or
anything. I'm using them to take the stress off an ITX board in a 1U
rack case so it can be reconfigured often, reliably, so if it plugs
without extra fitting, so much the better.

On the other hand, if you're the Baron as in Rob of the band Amebix,
then I do want to get in contact for sure, it's been over 20 years...
Smile

Sorry ! Fraid not... I haven't done anything with a band for nearly 50
years... ;-)

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Michael A. Terrell
Guest

Sat May 01, 2010 10:14 pm   



Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Quote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in
news:vp6dnSznHc4W1EbWnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d_at_earthlink.com:


Lostgallifreyan wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote in
news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d_at_earthlink.com:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same
size as their Cat 5 jacks.

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might not
provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff too.


Just make sure the plate & connector are the same brand. Some brands
aren't interchangeable.



Yep, that's kind of the problem with them... looks like proprietary thinking
beat common sense. It might explain why the simple standard of a chassis
mount socket was so assiduously avoided by so many.


I know they had problems finding something 10 years ago at Microdyne
for their RCB-2000 & DR-2000 Telemetry systems. They finally found
something, but the company would only sell them as part of a custom
harness.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

Lostgallifreyan
Guest

Sun May 02, 2010 7:53 am   



Baron <baron.nospam_at_linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in
news:hri1gj$2lq$1_at_news.eternal-september.org:

Quote:
On the other hand, if you're the Baron as in Rob of the band Amebix,
then I do want to get in contact for sure, it's been over 20 years...
:)

Sorry ! Fraid not... I haven't done anything with a band for nearly 50
years... ;-)


Ok. Smile Well, it's a good name.

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