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pimpom
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:58 am
Richard Henry wrote:
Quote:
On Mar 9, 10:24 am, "pimpom" <pim...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just
had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about
the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
An unusual year in San Diego - a lot of rain, but not enough
all at
once to flood much, and no killer frosts all winter. The guava
trees
usually die back a bit over the winter, but this year they
haven't
lost a leaf.
Is that San Diego, Ca? Does guava thrive naturally there or does
it need some coddling? We're further south than you are and
tropical fruits like the climate. I have guava, orange,
jackfruit, squash, mango, banana, butterfruit, etc in my garden
right next to the house and they do well without much care.
Grapes and apple don't do as well though.
Tim Watts
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:31 am
Baron <baron.nospam_at_linuxmaniac.nospam.net>
wibbled on Tuesday 09 March 2010 22:37
Quote:
Tim Watts Inscribed thus:
pimpom <pimpom_at_invalid.invalid
wibbled on Tuesday 09 March 2010 18:24
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
We've had colder (Southern England) though not recently.
I would say, in a purely handwaving way, that this winter has been
more like those of my early childhood and the intervening ones have
been unusually warm - ie this is normal.
Anyway, it could all just be random weather cycles.
I'll second that. I remember snow piled up at the side of the road for
days. I'd probably be around 7 or 8 years old. I don't remember
getting off school either, unless the boiler froze. That happened twice
in the same winter.
Ha. Daughter's school closed for about 6-7 days over the 4 separate periods
of snow we had this year. Boiler fine. Teachers stuck as they mostly live in
other villages and the lazy arsed councils can't be bothered to grit as much
as they should. Being southern England, noone has snow tyres or chains,
though I'll be getting all-season winter tyres on the next refit as it was
very silly not being able to drive up a 1:20 incline with 2" of snow/ice.
Yeah - and all the trains dropped dead too...
--
Tim Watts
Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.
Bill Sloman
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:15 pm
On Mar 9, 7:24 pm, "pimpom" <pim...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
Nijmegen has just had a spot of cold - if sunny - weather. It snowed
earlier in the week, and while most of the snow has melted, shaded
areas have still got a few millimetres of snow that hasn't melted yet.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Raveninghorde
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:11 pm
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:54:02 +0530, "pimpom" <pimpom_at_invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Quote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
Cold in this part of the UK. I think Scotland has had it worse.
Tbe Central England Temperature is down on the 1961-1990 average.
Anomaly:
January -2.4C
February -1.0C
March so far -2.1C
http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html
The significance of this temperature is that it is the longest
temperature record going back to 1772 with daily records and 1659 with
monthly records. It covers the area between Manchester London and
Bristol.
Nial Stewart
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:50 pm
Quote:
Cold in this part of the UK. I think Scotland has had it worse.
Winter here in Edinburgh really reminded me of the year we spent in
Ottowa (1975), ie proper snow that was about for long enough for it to
be a pain in the ar*e.
The ski resorts in the north have had really good skiing all winter,
it's been very patchy for the last 15 years or so.
Nial.
Martin Brown
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:54 pm
pimpom wrote:
Quote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
We have clear blue skies and Arctic air over us at present with frosts
down to -3C overnight and brilliant sunny days peaking to about 9C early
afternoon. Spring sunshine is warm but the ground is still cold.
Snowdrops and aconites are out but everything else is delayed. Frost
damage to early flowering plums and peaches looks likely.
It has been much colder here midwinter in previous years, down to -12C
in 2005, but not for anything like as long as the spells we have had
this winter (coldest -8C). People seem to have very short memories. 2005
had a serious cold snap at the end of February/start of March.
http://www.wiseweather.co.uk/id86.html
It is always funny to see how a couple on inches of snow grinds London
to a standstill and is reported as if it were a national emergency. Up
north it snows most winters and there is still some snow on the N facing
tops of the hills (nothing in England really counts as a mountain).
Regards,
Martin Brown
John Larkin
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Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:11 pm
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:29:24 +0530, "pimpom" <pimpom_at_invalid.invalid>
wrote:
Quote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:54:02 +0530, "pimpom"
pimpom_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just
had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about
the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
53F in San Francisco, 27 in Truckee. It's been a little cooler
than
normal maybe, and a bit wetter. We left Truckee yesterday
around noon
to come back to Da City, and it started snowing as we drove.
They
instituted chain controls that evening and kept them on all
night,
maybe a bit unusual for March.
"Chain controls" means they stop traffic and only let you
through if
you have tire chains or 4WD+snow tires.
Looks OK now.
http://www.magnifeye.com/
John
Still like that in March? What was it like in January?
We pretty much get all our precipitation in a small number of winter
storms, which arrive erratically. Our summer water supply is melting
snowpack and whatever we can capture in reservoirs. January had a
couple of big storms, as I recall. I don't know if there's any
longterm trend here; it's so erratic that patterns are hard to spot.
But it looks like long, hot showers will be OK this year; I get most
of my best ideas in the shower.
It's snowing again!
http://video.dot.ca.gov/asx/d3-Jct89-80.asx
The local idea of snowplowing is to push the bigger drifts sort of to
one side of the road and pack the rest down. So you're driving on a
few inches of kinda-packed snow.
John
Richard Henry
Guest
Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:16 am
On Mar 9, 11:46 pm, "pimpom" <pim...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
Richard Henry wrote:
On Mar 9, 10:24 am, "pimpom" <pim...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just
had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about
the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
An unusual year in San Diego - a lot of rain, but not enough
all at
once to flood much, and no killer frosts all winter. The guava
trees
usually die back a bit over the winter, but this year they
haven't
lost a leaf.
Is that San Diego, Ca? Does guava thrive naturally there or does
it need some coddling? We're further south than you are and
ue g tropical fruits like the climate. I have guava, orange,
jackfruit, squash, mango, banana, butterfruit, etc in my garden
right next to the house and they do well without much care.
Grapes and apple don't do as well though.-
Poway, up in the hills a bit, about 750' elevation.
I told my wife when she planted the guavas that they wouldn't survive
the winter frosts, but we usually just lose a few of the higher
branches and the fruit comes back strong the next year. A couple of
years ago we had a deep frost that drove them back to bare stubs
sticking out of the ground, but the fruit this year is as good as
ever.
We also get loquats, lemons, and oranges, but the dry weather and
watering cutbacks didn't help the grapes.
JosephKK
Guest
Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:52 am
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:54:02 +0530, "pimpom" <pimpom_at_invalid.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
This year seems more like normal as opposed to the last 3 winters
which were warmer and drier here in the valley floor, Sacramento.
Typical temps are mid 50s to low 60s for the high and low 40s to
mid 30s for lows. A bit of frost last Monday though.
Precipitation is a guessing game though. Also typical.
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:29 am
Baron wrote:
Quote:
I'll second that. I remember snow piled up at the side of the road for
days. I'd probably be around 7 or 8 years old. I don't remember
getting off school either, unless the boiler froze. That happened twice
in the same winter.
How much dry ice did you use each time? ;-)
--
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Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:35 am
Tim Wescott wrote:
Quote:
Indeed, although I grew up about 200 yards from downtown Damascus* and
you're considerably further out. I think you may even be out of the
school district for the grade school I attended (Damascus Union),
although kids in your area would be attending Sam Barlow High, same as me.
* That's a joke, son -- in the 70's the highway department only deigned
to put up one "Damascus**" sign, directly across from my dad's shop. If
you stood in the right spot in front of his shop you could see between
the sign boards. We told people we were "deep in the heart of downtown
Damascus".
** Damascus, Oregon was fairly rural at that point, and was never an
incorporated town until 2002. In the 1970's Damascus was a moderate
bump in the road, with my dad's shop, a few other stores, a gas station,
later a modest shopping center, and not much else to slow down traffic
going from Portland to Mt. Hood. Had we been further from civilization
we would probably have been a real town, but given the proximity to
Portland and Oregon City we were mostly a collection of farmland,
forest, and inane housing developments. With too many farms to really
be suburban and too many housing developments for locals to necessarily
know one another I used to call it 'sub-rural'.
The superintendent of schools had a policy of only closing our
schools if he couldn't see out his front window for the snow. He lived
on the second floor. :(
The only time they did close was one day during an ice storm, after I
spent an hour making the usual 15 minute walk. I finally got to school
only to be told to go home by the janitor. He wouldn't have been there,
but his car had skidded out of the parking lot, and he was stranded
there. Of course the reports on both radio stations said the schools
were open just before I left the house. This was a few miles north of
Cincinnati.
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:40 am
John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:29:24 +0530, "pimpom" <pimpom_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:54:02 +0530, "pimpom"
pimpom_at_invalid.invalid
wrote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just
had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about
the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
53F in San Francisco, 27 in Truckee. It's been a little cooler
than
normal maybe, and a bit wetter. We left Truckee yesterday
around noon
to come back to Da City, and it started snowing as we drove.
They
instituted chain controls that evening and kept them on all
night,
maybe a bit unusual for March.
"Chain controls" means they stop traffic and only let you
through if
you have tire chains or 4WD+snow tires.
Looks OK now.
http://www.magnifeye.com/
John
Still like that in March? What was it like in January?
We pretty much get all our precipitation in a small number of winter
storms, which arrive erratically. Our summer water supply is melting
snowpack and whatever we can capture in reservoirs. January had a
couple of big storms, as I recall. I don't know if there's any
longterm trend here; it's so erratic that patterns are hard to spot.
But it looks like long, hot showers will be OK this year; I get most
of my best ideas in the shower.
It's snowing again!
http://video.dot.ca.gov/asx/d3-Jct89-80.asx
The local idea of snowplowing is to push the bigger drifts sort of to
one side of the road and pack the rest down. So you're driving on a
few inches of kinda-packed snow.
I had someone ask me if I knew where to get snow chains, in Ocala,
Fl. I gave mine away when I left the frozen north, 20+ years ago.
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:43 am
Don Klipstein wrote:
Quote:
In article <hn63o3$ulj$1_at_news.albasani.net>, pimpom wrote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
Philadelphia PA USA has had December, January and February colder than
average, but not exceptionally cold. Maybe once per decade or two degree
of cold.
I got a phone call a few days ago that my dad & step mom were moving
to Florida after the very cold winter they just endured in SW Ohio.
Several times they were stuck in their house for over a week at a time,
and they live on what is normally a very busy road.
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:46 am
pimpom wrote:
Quote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
Daytime highs in the low to mid '60s and the nights near freezing,
until yesterday near Ocala, Fl.
--
Greed is the root of all eBay.
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
Guest
Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:51 am
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:54:02 +0530, "pimpom" <pimpom_at_invalid.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
This is not intended to spark off another GW debate. It was
evident that those of you in Europe and N.America have just had
one of the coldest winters in recent years. I'm curious about the
temperartures you're currently experiencing now that we're
approaching the middle of March.
It's been cold all Winter but it's in the upper '60s (F) this week.
Thunder-boomers today into tonight (BANG - no flicker so it's a ways off). The
Civil Defense sirens came on earlier but there was only a Severe Thunderstorm
Watch (no warning) from NOAA. Don't know what they were doing.
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