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Tom Gardner
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Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:45 pm   



On 27/04/20 13:54, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 00:30:24 +0000, Jasen Betts wrote:

Ah, so you admit he was making shit up. there is no anti-viral that
"knocks it out in a minute one minute" only disinfectant will do that.

The man is no fool. He's knows what he meant even though you clearly
don't.


Most people do know what Trump said. If that wasn't what he
meant then he is a lousy communicator.

Or, of course, he didn't realise that what he was saying was
dangerous nonsense.

He probably does now, since he has apparently proclaimed that
his daily briefing are "not worth the time and effort".
And that's the most sensible thing he has said recently.

George Herold
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:45 pm   



On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 12:01:48 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:31:01 -0700 (PDT), "John Miles, KE5FX"
jmiles_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 4:55:30 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com > TG is intelligent, and even civil, now and then.

Maybe he has hay fever or something now.


I mean the Noble Laureate in the Oval Office:

https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTrump

This is not OK. Nothing about a President who acts like this is OK.
It *was* funny at first, I'll give you that, but the comedy wore
thin a long time ago.

-- john, KE5FX

You are allowed to vote for someone else next time.

There's not much to choose from. Maybe I'll learn how
to do a write in on my ballot.

George H.
Quote:



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Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard


John Larkin
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:45 pm   



On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 08:03:18 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<ggherold_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 12:01:48 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:31:01 -0700 (PDT), "John Miles, KE5FX"
jmiles_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 4:55:30 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com > TG is intelligent, and even civil, now and then.

Maybe he has hay fever or something now.


I mean the Noble Laureate in the Oval Office:

https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTrump

This is not OK. Nothing about a President who acts like this is OK.
It *was* funny at first, I'll give you that, but the comedy wore
thin a long time ago.

-- john, KE5FX

You are allowed to vote for someone else next time.
There's not much to choose from. Maybe I'll learn how
to do a write in on my ballot.


I've wondered, who would be a good President?

I used to think Romney would be good, but then he got swamp-captured
too. It's surely somebody that hardly anybody has heard of, certainly
not someone with an actual path to the job.

Trump is probably the pick of a pretty pitiful litter.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

George Herold
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:45 pm   



On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 08:03:18 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
ggherold_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 12:01:48 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:31:01 -0700 (PDT), "John Miles, KE5FX"
jmiles_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 4:55:30 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com > TG is intelligent, and even civil, now and then.

Maybe he has hay fever or something now.


I mean the Noble Laureate in the Oval Office:

https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTrump

This is not OK. Nothing about a President who acts like this is OK.
It *was* funny at first, I'll give you that, but the comedy wore
thin a long time ago.

-- john, KE5FX

You are allowed to vote for someone else next time.
There's not much to choose from. Maybe I'll learn how
to do a write in on my ballot.


I've wondered, who would be a good President?

I used to think Romney would be good, but then he got swamp-captured
too. It's surely somebody that hardly anybody has heard of, certainly
not someone with an actual path to the job.


When Joe Rogan was asked this (by E. Wwienstein) he said
Tulsi Gabbard. And I could go with her. People complain about
her foreign policy, but mostly she seems honest to me.
(and she served in the armed forces.)

I'd take Romney now in a heart beat! :^)
George H.
Quote:

Trump is probably the pick of a pretty pitiful litter.

Yeah... we should be able to do much better.
I'm pretty much resigned to 4 more years of T.

George H.
Quote:

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com


Jim Jackson
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:45 pm   



On 2020-04-26, Cursitor Doom <cd_at_not4mail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:12:44 +0100, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 26/04/2020 17:58, Cursitor Doom wrote:

snip

Not in the least. Because he wasn't referring to domestic, kitchen-
variety disinfectant, but rather an anti-viral of some sort.

Riiiight. You think he even knows what that means?

The man is not stupid. He knows you just do NOT drink bleach. He just
didn't put it across well; something we're all guilty of at some time or
another.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-
peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

Sounds a bit more likely to me.

The Guardian! Says it all. How about throwing in some fake hysteria from
the BBC or CNN just for good measure?


I know some 'mericans live in their own bubble, but surely you must know
how must the rest of the world just laughs at Trump? He really is a
laughing stock.

John Larkin
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:45 pm   



On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 19:23:06 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson
<jj_at_franjam.org.uk> wrote:

Quote:
On 2020-04-26, Cursitor Doom <cd_at_not4mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:12:44 +0100, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 26/04/2020 17:58, Cursitor Doom wrote:

snip

Not in the least. Because he wasn't referring to domestic, kitchen-
variety disinfectant, but rather an anti-viral of some sort.

Riiiight. You think he even knows what that means?

The man is not stupid. He knows you just do NOT drink bleach. He just
didn't put it across well; something we're all guilty of at some time or
another.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-
peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

Sounds a bit more likely to me.

The Guardian! Says it all. How about throwing in some fake hysteria from
the BBC or CNN just for good measure?

I know some 'mericans live in their own bubble, but surely you must know
how must the rest of the world just laughs at Trump? He really is a
laughing stock.


But why would we care who is laughing?

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Ricky C
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:45 pm   



On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 3:23:11 PM UTC-4, Jim Jackson wrote:
Quote:
On 2020-04-26, Cursitor Doom <cd_at_not4mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:12:44 +0100, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 26/04/2020 17:58, Cursitor Doom wrote:

snip

Not in the least. Because he wasn't referring to domestic, kitchen-
variety disinfectant, but rather an anti-viral of some sort.

Riiiight. You think he even knows what that means?

The man is not stupid. He knows you just do NOT drink bleach. He just
didn't put it across well; something we're all guilty of at some time or
another.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-
peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

Sounds a bit more likely to me.

The Guardian! Says it all. How about throwing in some fake hysteria from
the BBC or CNN just for good measure?

I know some 'mericans live in their own bubble, but surely you must know
how must the rest of the world just laughs at Trump? He really is a
laughing stock.


There's a photo of a number of world leaders who are huddled together looking over their shoulders with big smiles on their faces and clearly talking about Trump who had just made some grandiose announcement.

But why shouldn't the rest of the world laugh at him? Let's face it, we only elected him for comic relief. The electoral college got together in the corner of the round room and decided it would be a huge hoot to put him in office just to see what would happen. They figured he couldn't do any real damage. He was just an actor on a reality TV show. It's not like he was a former film star or anything.

Now Slim Pickens, I'd vote for him any day! Just not for President. Actors don't automatically make for good Presidents.

--

Rick C.

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John Robertson
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:45 pm   



On 2020/04/27 12:42 p.m., George Herold wrote:
Quote:
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 08:03:18 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
ggherold_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 12:01:48 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:31:01 -0700 (PDT), "John Miles, KE5FX"
jmiles_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 4:55:30 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com > TG is intelligent, and even civil, now and then.

Maybe he has hay fever or something now.


I mean the Noble Laureate in the Oval Office:

https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTrump

This is not OK. Nothing about a President who acts like this is OK.
It *was* funny at first, I'll give you that, but the comedy wore
thin a long time ago.

-- john, KE5FX

You are allowed to vote for someone else next time.
There's not much to choose from. Maybe I'll learn how
to do a write in on my ballot.


I've wondered, who would be a good President?

I used to think Romney would be good, but then he got swamp-captured
too. It's surely somebody that hardly anybody has heard of, certainly
not someone with an actual path to the job.

When Joe Rogan was asked this (by E. Wwienstein) he said
Tulsi Gabbard. And I could go with her. People complain about
her foreign policy, but mostly she seems honest to me.
(and she served in the armed forces.)

I'd take Romney now in a heart beat! :^)
George H.

Trump is probably the pick of a pretty pitiful litter.
Yeah... we should be able to do much better.
I'm pretty much resigned to 4 more years of T.

George H.


George,

Why do you think it would only be 4 more years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOygwyMY9RM

Minute 1:40...

John :-#(#

Tom Gardner
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:45 pm   



On 27/04/20 20:23, Jim Jackson wrote:
Quote:
On 2020-04-26, Cursitor Doom <cd_at_not4mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:12:44 +0100, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 26/04/2020 17:58, Cursitor Doom wrote:

snip

Not in the least. Because he wasn't referring to domestic, kitchen-
variety disinfectant, but rather an anti-viral of some sort.

Riiiight. You think he even knows what that means?

The man is not stupid. He knows you just do NOT drink bleach. He just
didn't put it across well; something we're all guilty of at some time or
another.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-
peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

Sounds a bit more likely to me.

The Guardian! Says it all. How about throwing in some fake hysteria from
the BBC or CNN just for good measure?

I know some 'mericans live in their own bubble, but surely you must know
how must the rest of the world just laughs at Trump? He really is a
laughing stock.


Cursitor Doom has dropped hints that he is/was British,
but no longer lives there. Hence his strong opinions
about what is necessary/beneficial/possible/sensible there.

I'm sure you have come across similar expats.

John Larkin
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:45 pm   



On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:37:25 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin_at_highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 19:23:06 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson
jj_at_franjam.org.uk> wrote:

On 2020-04-26, Cursitor Doom <cd_at_not4mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:12:44 +0100, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 26/04/2020 17:58, Cursitor Doom wrote:

snip

Not in the least. Because he wasn't referring to domestic, kitchen-
variety disinfectant, but rather an anti-viral of some sort.

Riiiight. You think he even knows what that means?

The man is not stupid. He knows you just do NOT drink bleach. He just
didn't put it across well; something we're all guilty of at some time or
another.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-
peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

Sounds a bit more likely to me.

The Guardian! Says it all. How about throwing in some fake hysteria from
the BBC or CNN just for good measure?

I know some 'mericans live in their own bubble, but surely you must know
how must the rest of the world just laughs at Trump? He really is a
laughing stock.

But why would we care who is laughing?


https://www.amazon.com/What-Care-Other-People-Think/dp/0393355640/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=feinmann+why+do+your+care+people+think&qid=1588020654&s=books&sr=1-1-spell

Pretty smart guy.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

John Larkin
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:45 pm   



On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:42:37 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<ggherold_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 08:03:18 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
ggherold_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 12:01:48 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:31:01 -0700 (PDT), "John Miles, KE5FX"
jmiles_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 4:55:30 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com > TG is intelligent, and even civil, now and then.

Maybe he has hay fever or something now.


I mean the Noble Laureate in the Oval Office:

https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTrump

This is not OK. Nothing about a President who acts like this is OK.
It *was* funny at first, I'll give you that, but the comedy wore
thin a long time ago.

-- john, KE5FX

You are allowed to vote for someone else next time.
There's not much to choose from. Maybe I'll learn how
to do a write in on my ballot.


I've wondered, who would be a good President?

I used to think Romney would be good, but then he got swamp-captured
too. It's surely somebody that hardly anybody has heard of, certainly
not someone with an actual path to the job.

When Joe Rogan was asked this (by E. Wwienstein) he said
Tulsi Gabbard. And I could go with her. People complain about
her foreign policy, but mostly she seems honest to me.
(and she served in the armed forces.)


Yeah, Tulsi looked interesting and rational. Honest, maybe even.

Quote:

I'd take Romney now in a heart beat! :^)


He'd be OK, but I've been disappointed with his turn to The Swamp Side
in recent years. That's what a life in politics will do to a boy.




Quote:
George H.

Trump is probably the pick of a pretty pitiful litter.
Yeah... we should be able to do much better.
I'm pretty much resigned to 4 more years of T.

George H.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
--


John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Ricky C
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:45 pm   



On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 3:37:35 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 19:23:06 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson
jj_at_franjam.org.uk> wrote:

On 2020-04-26, Cursitor Doom <cd_at_not4mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:12:44 +0100, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 26/04/2020 17:58, Cursitor Doom wrote:

snip

Not in the least. Because he wasn't referring to domestic, kitchen-
variety disinfectant, but rather an anti-viral of some sort.

Riiiight. You think he even knows what that means?

The man is not stupid. He knows you just do NOT drink bleach. He just
didn't put it across well; something we're all guilty of at some time or
another.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-
peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

Sounds a bit more likely to me.

The Guardian! Says it all. How about throwing in some fake hysteria from
the BBC or CNN just for good measure?

I know some 'mericans live in their own bubble, but surely you must know
how must the rest of the world just laughs at Trump? He really is a
laughing stock.

But why would we care who is laughing?


I guess some of us are accustomed to being laughed at.

Unfortunately the world is not our oyster. We have to cooperate and have the cooperation of other countries to get what we want and to do what we need. When they are laughing at us, they are dealing with us at arms length. Kinda the way we have dealt with North Korea all this time. We even made a puppet movie with him in it.

Even before he was dead he didn't get much cooperation from the rest of the world.

--

Rick C.

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Ricky C
Guest

Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:45 pm   



On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 3:42:42 PM UTC-4, George Herold wrote:
Quote:
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

Trump is probably the pick of a pretty pitiful litter.
Yeah... we should be able to do much better.
I'm pretty much resigned to 4 more years of T.


Fortunately most of the country doesn't agree with you. So unless the electoral college again perverts the course of the election, it won't be happening.

Most of the world also doesn't agree with you. However, the part of the world that does agree with you likes to meddle in our elections.

--

Rick C.

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whit3rd
Guest

Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:45 am   



On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 12:37:35 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 19:23:06 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson
jj_at_franjam.org.uk> wrote:

I know some 'mericans live in their own bubble, but surely you must know
how must the rest of the world just laughs at Trump? He really is a
laughing stock.

But why would we care who is laughing?


During the American Revolution, most continentals were dismissive of
the colonials. There were little ditties like

Yankee Doodle went to town
A-Riding on a pony
Stuck a feather in his cap
And called it macaroni

The revoution's chances seemed slim.

France, however, had taken an interest in the electrical researches of Ben
Franklin, and he had a well-received visit (what we'd call a lecture tour) in
that country. Accordingly, the revolutionary effort later had assistance of a
small French fleet at Yorktown.

Being taken seriously does matter. Even if it's by foreigners you've never met.

bitrex
Guest

Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:45 am   



On 4/27/2020 8:28 PM, bitrex wrote:
Quote:
On 4/26/2020 1:51 PM, George Herold wrote:
On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 11:26:48 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 4/25/2020 5:20 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 25/04/20 02:39, bitrex wrote:
On 4/24/2020 9:22 PM, Ricky C wrote:
I think we have finally crossed the line.  It is now universally
accepted that the United States of America is the stupidest country
on the planet and we are most likely going to be shamed into leaving.

Until now we were simply mocked behind our backs by the leaders of
other countries whispering about the many things Donald Trump has
said to them privately.  But now Trump has said something that even
the stupidest of the stupid know it would be too stupid to allow them
to live.

Trump talked about using disinfectants as internal treatment for
COVID-19. Yep, that's drinking the Formula 409.  Going down on Mr.
Clean.  Loving the the Lysol.  Pumping the Pine-sol.  Shooting up
with Clorox.

This now flags our President as the stupidest person in any position
of authority, now and ever.  That includes the first President of
Troglodonia, Zog.  Zog was a fair, but stupid leader.  When he
thought he was doing the right thing he often was actually hurting
his countrymen more than not.  But mostly those who voted for him
supported his policy of stone wall building at the river which
separated Troglodonia from the adjacent country Neanderstan. He
campaigned on the promise of making Neanderstand pay for the way.
Unfortunately Neanderstan was happy to do so since the wall was built
on the Troglodonian side resulting in severe consequences for the
inhabitants.

And yet... President Trump is far stupider than Zog.

Even my friend's 5 year old knows enough to not drink the cleaners
stored under the kitchen sink.  Maybe Trump saw some cleaner stored
on an upper shelf next to his Captain Crunch and it gave him an idea.

Either way, we are now the stupidest country in the world and are
going to be kicked off at the next vote.


He didn't actually say that. Looks to me like he said something
ambiguous and unintelligible and then got annoyed people weren't able
to read his mind and had understood it to mean something other than
whatever he thought he meant at the time.

Sort of like Jesus, really.

Looking at the man himself in the video, he mentioned
   - injecting/inhaling disinfectant "so that it would be interesting
     to check that" and
   - tremendous internal UV (other than through the skin)
     "sounds interesting, right"

and was satisfied that someone off-screen said they were going to
check that.

Clearly
1) he thought they were good ideas, no sarcasm, no irony
2) people around him have learned how to say something that
will mollify him and then let him forget it

Doesn't look good for the US.

In seriousness I don't make any pretense to understanding his mental
state in regards to statements like these.
Really?  I find T to be very transparent.  He's our narcissist
'very stable genius' leader who knows more than anyone.
I think he truly wants to help the US.  (as misguided as I may think
he is.)
OTOH T=stupid and therefore not-T=smart... is stupid.
George H.

Narcissists like to be the center of attention, and here we are
discussing him so mission accomplished, I guess.

What exact mental process leads to that overwhelming urge or what leads
to any particular set of provocative attention-getting statements I
don't profess to understand and I would guess is a matter of debate
among psychologists as well.

One has to be a bit of an egomanaic to even get out of bed every morning
the same as the previous, I guess. Or at least part optimist.


The best explanation I have heard is that a pathological narcissist in
the Freudian model of id, ego, superego actually has a damaged "ego"
functionality. The ego in the Freudian model is the reality-picture
integration center. He must solicit attention because he cannot generate
a somewhat accurate picture of reality internally, the pilot has a
broken windscreen and is flying on instruments (second-hand information)
only.

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