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mpm
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:59 pm
On Aug 27, 12:39 pm, Karl Townsend <karltownsend....@embarqmail.com>
wrote:
Quote:
I have some specific thoughts on how to overcome this, but I was
thinking this morning that there has to be some lessons to be learned
from history -- specifically, what sorts of businesses were successful
at starting up or coming back from the ashes between 1930 and 1938, and
how'd they do it? I was wondering if anyone has seen any good books
that cover this sort of thing.
The REAL EASY MONEY is in wire brushes. You can make a mint and spend
all your spare time cruisin' the 'net, casting bullets, and shooting
VBG
Karl
thinking this morning that there has to be some lessons to be learned
from history -- specifically, what sorts of businesses were successful
at starting up or coming back from the ashes between 1930 and 1938, and
how'd they do it? I was wondering if anyone has seen any good books
that cover this sort of thing.
The REAL EASY MONEY is in wire brushes. You can make a mint and spend
all your spare time cruisin' the 'net, casting bullets, and shooting
VBG
Karl
I thought the easy money was in porn?
Tim, I don't know if this will help much or not, but I have a couple
comments.
1 - Think BIG.
2 - Recognize that a surprising percentage of "successful" folks
become successful doing what they love to do; not necessarily what
they were formally trained in doing.
(AND, by the way, not necessarily doing something they are
particularly good at either.)
I guess the thinking is: You're more apt to be successful at doing
something you truly enjoy.
If that's teaching other folks about embedded circuit design - do
that. Don't sell ponies.
As for thinking BIG, most folks sell themselves short. (Maybe that's
human nature?) Or sabotage their efforts, knowingly or more often,
unknowingly.
If you shoot big and make it. You're done. If not, you've probably
traveled far enough in the attempt to "make it" at something.
But if you think small, well, that's what you reinforce.
Rich Grise
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:55 pm
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:10:23 -0700, Tim Wescott wrote:
Quote:
(Note, if you're a popular historian with a business school bent, or a
business author with a historical bent, that there's an opportunity
right here).
Well, I can tell you about a half-dozen ways NOT to try to start a
business, mostly having to do with lack of capital and lack of
customers. ;-)
Good Luck!
Rich
Charlie E.
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:54 pm
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:34:31 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT), linnix
me_at_linnix.info-for.us> wrote:
But dangit, the plans I made assumed a booming economy and a high-end
seminar that would charge great big wads of money to train someone up
and get them back on the job with newly improved skills quickly.
That could still work, but you have to look outward. My dream is to
get a cruise ship and teach international seminars while cruising
around the world. Hey, let start to dream together.
There was a controls seminar some years ago given on a tall (sailing)
ship in the Carribean. That would be nice. Some potential upside on
taxation too, depending on your residency and citizenship.
me_at_linnix.info-for.us> wrote:
But dangit, the plans I made assumed a booming economy and a high-end
seminar that would charge great big wads of money to train someone up
and get them back on the job with newly improved skills quickly.
That could still work, but you have to look outward. My dream is to
get a cruise ship and teach international seminars while cruising
around the world. Hey, let start to dream together.
There was a controls seminar some years ago given on a tall (sailing)
ship in the Carribean. That would be nice. Some potential upside on
taxation too, depending on your residency and citizenship.
I had a good friend that was the main instructor for PSpice classes.
He took a look at all the usual costs involved, and figured out that
having the class on a one week cruise would cost LESS than holding it
in a hotel, both for the company and the students!
Unfortunately, the reality of going to your boss, and asking to take a
cruise to learn PSpice sank the idea! You are supposed to be working!
8-)
Charlie
Tim Wescott
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:10 am
On 08/27/2010 02:54 PM, Charlie E. wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:34:31 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT), linnix
me_at_linnix.info-for.us> wrote:
But dangit, the plans I made assumed a booming economy and a high-end
seminar that would charge great big wads of money to train someone up
and get them back on the job with newly improved skills quickly.
That could still work, but you have to look outward. My dream is to
get a cruise ship and teach international seminars while cruising
around the world. Hey, let start to dream together.
There was a controls seminar some years ago given on a tall (sailing)
ship in the Carribean. That would be nice. Some potential upside on
taxation too, depending on your residency and citizenship.
I had a good friend that was the main instructor for PSpice classes.
He took a look at all the usual costs involved, and figured out that
having the class on a one week cruise would cost LESS than holding it
in a hotel, both for the company and the students!
Unfortunately, the reality of going to your boss, and asking to take a
cruise to learn PSpice sank the idea! You are supposed to be working!
speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT), linnix
me_at_linnix.info-for.us> wrote:
But dangit, the plans I made assumed a booming economy and a high-end
seminar that would charge great big wads of money to train someone up
and get them back on the job with newly improved skills quickly.
That could still work, but you have to look outward. My dream is to
get a cruise ship and teach international seminars while cruising
around the world. Hey, let start to dream together.
There was a controls seminar some years ago given on a tall (sailing)
ship in the Carribean. That would be nice. Some potential upside on
taxation too, depending on your residency and citizenship.
I had a good friend that was the main instructor for PSpice classes.
He took a look at all the usual costs involved, and figured out that
having the class on a one week cruise would cost LESS than holding it
in a hotel, both for the company and the students!
Unfortunately, the reality of going to your boss, and asking to take a
cruise to learn PSpice sank the idea! You are supposed to be working!
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine, though.
Probably the best solution to that is to choose a variety of venues --
catch the "I'll get a seminar and a vacation" at some, catch the ones
with Grinch for a boss in others.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html
Joel Koltner
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:24 am
"Tim Wescott" <tim_at_seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Quote:
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine, though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once... definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:28 am
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:34:31 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT), linnix
me_at_linnix.info-for.us> wrote:
But dangit, the plans I made assumed a booming economy and a high-end
seminar that would charge great big wads of money to train someone up
and get them back on the job with newly improved skills quickly.
That could still work, but you have to look outward. My dream is to
get a cruise ship and teach international seminars while cruising
around the world. Hey, let start to dream together.
There was a controls seminar some years ago given on a tall (sailing)
ship in the Carribean. That would be nice. Some potential upside on
taxation too, depending on your residency and citizenship.
me_at_linnix.info-for.us> wrote:
But dangit, the plans I made assumed a booming economy and a high-end
seminar that would charge great big wads of money to train someone up
and get them back on the job with newly improved skills quickly.
That could still work, but you have to look outward. My dream is to
get a cruise ship and teach international seminars while cruising
around the world. Hey, let start to dream together.
There was a controls seminar some years ago given on a tall (sailing)
ship in the Carribean. That would be nice. Some potential upside on
taxation too, depending on your residency and citizenship.
I see a lot of down-side. Too many PHBs would sign up.
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:32 am
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:59:11 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard_at_aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 27, 12:39 pm, Karl Townsend <karltownsend....@embarqmail.com
wrote:
I have some specific thoughts on how to overcome this, but I was
thinking this morning that there has to be some lessons to be learned
from history -- specifically, what sorts of businesses were successful
at starting up or coming back from the ashes between 1930 and 1938, and
how'd they do it? I was wondering if anyone has seen any good books
that cover this sort of thing.
The REAL EASY MONEY is in wire brushes. You can make a mint and spend
all your spare time cruisin' the 'net, casting bullets, and shooting
VBG
Karl
I thought the easy money was in porn?
Tim, I don't know if this will help much or not, but I have a couple
comments.
1 - Think BIG.
wrote:
I have some specific thoughts on how to overcome this, but I was
thinking this morning that there has to be some lessons to be learned
from history -- specifically, what sorts of businesses were successful
at starting up or coming back from the ashes between 1930 and 1938, and
how'd they do it? I was wondering if anyone has seen any good books
that cover this sort of thing.
The REAL EASY MONEY is in wire brushes. You can make a mint and spend
all your spare time cruisin' the 'net, casting bullets, and shooting
VBG
Karl
I thought the easy money was in porn?
Tim, I don't know if this will help much or not, but I have a couple
comments.
1 - Think BIG.
BIG. Porn. Hmm.
Quote:
2 - Recognize that a surprising percentage of "successful" folks
become successful doing what they love to do; not necessarily what
they were formally trained in doing.
become successful doing what they love to do; not necessarily what
they were formally trained in doing.
Porn fits.
Quote:
(AND, by the way, not necessarily doing something they are
particularly good at either.)
particularly good at either.)
Are you suggesting that Tim wouldn't be particularly good a porn?
Quote:
I guess the thinking is: You're more apt to be successful at doing
something you truly enjoy.
something you truly enjoy.
Porn.
Quote:
If that's teaching other folks about embedded circuit design - do
that. Don't sell ponies.
that. Don't sell ponies.
Now you're getting kinky!
Quote:
As for thinking BIG, most folks sell themselves short. (Maybe that's
human nature?) Or sabotage their efforts, knowingly or more often,
unknowingly.
If you shoot big and make it. You're done. If not, you've probably
traveled far enough in the attempt to "make it" at something.
But if you think small, well, that's what you reinforce.
human nature?) Or sabotage their efforts, knowingly or more often,
unknowingly.
If you shoot big and make it. You're done. If not, you've probably
traveled far enough in the attempt to "make it" at something.
But if you think small, well, that's what you reinforce.
Small. Porn. Hmm.
Gunner Asch
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:48 am
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Tim Wescott" <tim_at_seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine, though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once... definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine, though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once... definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
Gunner
I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)
Ed Huntress
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:07 am
"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <tim_at_seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
zapwireDASHgroups_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <tim_at_seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
--
Ed Huntress
Phil Hobbs
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:38 pm
Ed Huntress wrote:
Quote:
"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <tim_at_seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
news:ifjg761vhkb98nbhmmd34hvoll2ne1ee5g_at_4ax.com...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <tim_at_seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
New Rochelle is one of those places where the averages don't tell the
whole story. For a few years I did some National Engineers' Week demos
in the two middle schools in New Rochelle--twice at Albert Leonard
(gritty) and once at Isaac Young (idyllic).
The contrast between the schools, and the kids, was pretty stark.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:17 pm
On Aug 27, 8:07 pm, "Ed Huntress" <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
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"Gunner Asch" <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars..
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
--
Ed Huntress
news:ifjg761vhkb98nbhmmd34hvoll2ne1ee5g_at_4ax.com...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars..
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
--
Ed Huntress
This website has the average household income as a lot less.
Estimated median household income in 2008: $59,359 (it was $55,513 in
2000)
New Rochelle: $59,359
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html#ixzz0xtzsd3Sz
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html
Dan
Ed Huntress
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On Aug 27, 8:07 pm, "Ed Huntress" <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
Quote:
"Gunner Asch" <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
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I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too
much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home
price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a
crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
--
Ed Huntress
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
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I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too
much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home
price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a
crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
--
Ed Huntress
This website has the average household income as a lot less.
Estimated median household income in 2008: $59,359 (it was $55,513 in
2000)
New Rochelle: $59,359
Read more:
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html#ixzz0xtzsd3Sz
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html
================================================
Thanks, Dan. The $199,061 figure was for the northernmost of three ZIP codes
for New Rochelle. My mistake.
It's still one hell of a nice -- and an expensive -- town. My family
belonged to a beach club there in the late '50s.
--
Ed Huntress
Gunner Asch
Guest
Guest
Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:41 pm
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 05:17:18 -0700 (PDT), "dcaster_at_krl.org"
<dcaster_at_krl.org> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 27, 8:07 pm, "Ed Huntress" <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
"Gunner Asch" <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ifjg761vhkb98nbhmmd34hvoll2ne1ee5g_at_4ax.com...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
--
Ed Huntress
This website has the average household income as a lot less.
Estimated median household income in 2008: $59,359 (it was $55,513 in
2000)
New Rochelle: $59,359
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html#ixzz0xtzsd3Sz
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html
Dan
"Gunner Asch" <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
--
Ed Huntress
This website has the average household income as a lot less.
Estimated median household income in 2008: $59,359 (it was $55,513 in
2000)
New Rochelle: $59,359
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html#ixzz0xtzsd3Sz
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html
Dan
Estimated median household income in 2008: $59,359 (it was $55,513 in
2000)
New Rochelle: $59,359
New York: $56,033
Estimated per capita income in 2008: $37,933
New Rochelle city income, earnings, and wages data
Estimated median house or condo value in 2008: $607,700 (it was $299,900
in 2000)
New Rochelle: $607,700
New York: $318,900
Read more:
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html#ixzz0xupdSyGO
Thats quite a difference between average income and housing costs..isnt
it?
Gunner
I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)
Spehro Pefhany
Guest
Guest
Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:56 pm
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:38:35 -0400, the renowned Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless_at_electrooptical.net> wrote:
Quote:
Ed Huntress wrote:
"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ifjg761vhkb98nbhmmd34hvoll2ne1ee5g_at_4ax.com...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <tim_at_seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
New Rochelle is one of those places where the averages don't tell the
whole story. For a few years I did some National Engineers' Week demos
in the two middle schools in New Rochelle--twice at Albert Leonard
(gritty) and once at Isaac Young (idyllic).
The contrast between the schools, and the kids, was pretty stark.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <tim_at_seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
New Rochelle is one of those places where the averages don't tell the
whole story. For a few years I did some National Engineers' Week demos
in the two middle schools in New Rochelle--twice at Albert Leonard
(gritty) and once at Isaac Young (idyllic).
The contrast between the schools, and the kids, was pretty stark.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Scariest place I've been in the US during daylight was the commuter
train station in New Rochelle back in the nineties. Belgrade felt
safer.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:13 pm
"Gunner Asch" <gunnerasch_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 05:17:18 -0700 (PDT), "dcaster_at_krl.org"
dcaster_at_krl.org> wrote:
On Aug 27, 8:07 pm, "Ed Huntress" <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
"Gunner Asch" <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ifjg761vhkb98nbhmmd34hvoll2ne1ee5g_at_4ax.com...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the
Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too
much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the
SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to
the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home
price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a
crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped
cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
--
Ed Huntress
This website has the average household income as a lot less.
Estimated median household income in 2008: $59,359 (it was $55,513 in
2000)
New Rochelle: $59,359
Read more:
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html#ixzz0xtzsd3Sz
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html
Dan
Estimated median household income in 2008: $59,359 (it was $55,513 in
2000)
New Rochelle: $59,359
New York: $56,033
Estimated per capita income in 2008: $37,933
New Rochelle city income, earnings, and wages data
Estimated median house or condo value in 2008: $607,700 (it was $299,900
in 2000)
New Rochelle: $607,700
New York: $318,900
Read more:
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html#ixzz0xupdSyGO
Thats quite a difference between average income and housing costs..isnt
it?
Gunner
dcaster_at_krl.org> wrote:
On Aug 27, 8:07 pm, "Ed Huntress" <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
"Gunner Asch" <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ifjg761vhkb98nbhmmd34hvoll2ne1ee5g_at_4ax.com...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:57 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Tim Wescott" <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:f6udnZzR66-a2-XRnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d_at_web-ster.com...
I had a guy tell me that his boss wouldn't let him go to the
Embedded
Systems Conference when it was in San Francisco because SF was too
much
of a
tourist town, and it was just vacation time.
That's hard-core.
And to think that there are actually some ENGINEERING COMPANIES in San
Francisco! I wonder how they ever get any work done? Amazing!
:-)
Getting sent to a seminar in an armpit of a city someplace was fine,
though.
I spent a month at a customer site in Rochelle, Illinois, once...
definitely
qualifies as an armpit.
---Joel
Try Seaboard Electronics in New Rochelle New York.......brrrrr...I
counted 23 stripped or currently being stripped cars/trucks on the
SIDE
OF THE FREEWAY as I passed em from JFK to the factory.
Mid 1980s......and I couldnt carry CCW there....BRRRR
I went to lunch and a pickpocket got his hand smashed in the door to
the
restaurant when he fumbled his trick. Dont know how that
happened...shrug
I never ever nevernever went back there. Nononono!
New Rochelle's average household income is $199,061. The average home
price
is over $752,000. It's one of the most desired towns in the US, with a
crime
rate less than half of the average.
What you drove through to get there, in Queens and the Bronx, is the New
York equivalent of Taft, California. That's why you saw the stripped
cars.
What probably threw you off your feed is the lack of garbage heaps and
broken-down pickups in the front yards. It doubtless looked like alien
territory.
--
Ed Huntress
This website has the average household income as a lot less.
Estimated median household income in 2008: $59,359 (it was $55,513 in
2000)
New Rochelle: $59,359
Read more:
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html#ixzz0xtzsd3Sz
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html
Dan
Estimated median household income in 2008: $59,359 (it was $55,513 in
2000)
New Rochelle: $59,359
New York: $56,033
Estimated per capita income in 2008: $37,933
New Rochelle city income, earnings, and wages data
Estimated median house or condo value in 2008: $607,700 (it was $299,900
in 2000)
New Rochelle: $607,700
New York: $318,900
Read more:
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html#ixzz0xupdSyGO
Thats quite a difference between average income and housing costs..isnt
it?
Gunner
Mean prices in 2008: Mobile homes: $362,500.
http://www.city-data.com/city/New-Rochelle-New-York.html#ixzz0xtzsd3Sz
It sure isn't Taft, is it? d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
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