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Jon D
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:56 pm
On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
day.
Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
elsewhere?
Was she just trying to impose a lifestyle rather than save a useful
amoun of energy?
She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
less power than a TV.
Does anyone know typical consumption figures?
Funfly3
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:11 pm
"Jon D" <jon_d_at_nomail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
day.
Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
elsewhere?
Was she just trying to impose a lifestyle rather than save a useful
amoun of energy?
She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
less power than a TV.
Does anyone know typical consumption figures?
adding OT to the beginning of a post does not make it ok to post in the
wrong group ?????
Mike Henry
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:43 pm
In <96E8B693C63D571E5D_at_66.250.146.159>, Jon D <jon_d_at_nomail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
day.
Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
elsewhere?
Was she just trying to impose a lifestyle rather than save a useful
amoun of energy?
It certainly sounds like it! It'd mean you could never watch a movie in
one sitting, even if it was the only thing you watched that day! Absurd.
Quote:
She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
less power than a TV.
She sounds like the sort of TV-hater that they have in home makeover
programmes, where the TV is always banished to a corner of the room
(often behind a folding screen) or they make a cabinet with doors so
that you can "close it away out of sight". Why should it be out of
sight!
John Jordan
Guest
Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:57 pm
Jon D wrote:
Quote:
Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
elsewhere?
I'm going to regret replying to a cross-post, but my 21" Hitachi TV uses
70-80W according to my wattmeter. To bring it closer to the topic, this
is much less than a 21" CRT monitor.
Quote:
She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
less power than a TV.
I'd be surprised if this used more than 30W.
--
John Jordan
Schrodinger
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:00 pm
"Jon D" <jon_d_at_nomail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
day.
Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
elsewhere?
A TV uses a relatively small amount of power. Did she mention making sure
that you only boil enough water needed for, say, one cup of tea - instead of
the half kettle most people boil and reboil? How about using a lower temp
setting on your washing machine?
Quote:
Was she just trying to impose a lifestyle rather than save a useful
amoun of energy?
Guess - it's a woman.
Quote:
She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
less power than a TV.
A micro system will use less power than more or less anything in the house.
This is a pathetic attempt at managing someone's lifestyle under the banner
of "the environment". Part of the same logic that calls 4x4s that have
better fuel consumption than many luxury cars bad for the environment. The
government and media is choc full of ill informed dick heads like this.
> Does anyone know typical consumption figures?
Trevor Best
Guest
Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:45 pm
Schrodinger wrote:
Quote:
A micro system will use less power than more or less anything in the house.
This is a pathetic attempt at managing someone's lifestyle under the banner
of "the environment". Part of the same logic that calls 4x4s that have
better fuel consumption than many luxury cars bad for the environment. The
government and media is choc full of ill informed dick heads like this.
I'll have you know my BMW is environmentally friendly, for every gallon
of fuel I put in, it only pollutes 19 miles of atmosphere.
Halmyre
Guest
Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:16 pm
Jon D wrote:
Quote:
On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
day.
Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
elsewhere?
Was she just trying to impose a lifestyle rather than save a useful
amoun of energy?
She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
less power than a TV.
Does anyone know typical consumption figures?
TVs, sound systems and computers use less power than cookers,
dishwashers and washing machines, but you don't see anyone banging on
about *their* use, do you...
--
Halmyre
f c e k
i r i s h c o n n e c t i o n
Schrodinger
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:43 pm
"Trevor Best" <nospam_at_localhost.invalid> wrote in message
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Quote:
Schrodinger wrote:
A micro system will use less power than more or less anything in the
house. This is a pathetic attempt at managing someone's lifestyle under
the banner of "the environment". Part of the same logic that calls 4x4s
that have better fuel consumption than many luxury cars bad for the
environment. The government and media is choc full of ill informed dick
heads like this.
I'll have you know my BMW is environmentally friendly, for every gallon of
fuel I put in, it only pollutes 19 miles of atmosphere.
Somebody needs a lesson in Boyle's law.
Alex Butcher
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:35 pm
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:57:35 +0100, John Jordan wrote:
Quote:
Jon D wrote:
Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more substantial
electrical savings could have been found easily elsewhere?
I'm going to regret replying to a cross-post, but my 21" Hitachi TV uses
70-80W according to my wattmeter.
That sounds pretty typical.
Quote:
To bring it closer to the topic, this is much less than a 21" CRT monitor.
She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even less
power than a TV.
I'd be surprised if this used more than 30W.
....but probably significantly more than listening to a headphone system
(e.g. iPod, Discman, Walkman) through headphones, which I guess is the
point that was being made.
Best Regards,
Alex.
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Chris Jones
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:41 pm
Jon D wrote:
Quote:
On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
day.
Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more
substantial electrical savings could have been found easily
elsewhere?
Was she just trying to impose a lifestyle rather than save a useful
amoun of energy?
She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even
less power than a TV.
Does anyone know typical consumption figures?
I agree with you. Much greater savings could be made by reducing the power
of a load which is always on, e.g. in its life, a typical microwave oven
uses more power to run the clock than to cook the food, because it might be
cooking for 5 minutes a day at 1kW, but it's running the clock for 1440
minutes a day at perhaps 5 Watts, because of the inefficient power supply
for the clock. The same kind of thing applies to TVs, many of which use
10W or so just to run the remote control receiver. She should have asked
them to limit the standby time of the TV by switching off at the socket,
rather than limiting the watching time. In my opinion, if your enjoying
something, it isn't entirely a waste, whereas something costly that you
don't even notice, let alone enjoy, is certainly a waste.
It is sending out the wrong message if she makes it seem like energy saving
has to be unpleasant. There are plenty of ways of saving energy that
people wouldn't even notice, like putting power switches in the primary
circuit of the power transformer in a radio, instead of putting the switch
in the secondary as is more usual.
Chris
Andrew Gabriel
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:14 pm
In article <96E8B693C63D571E5D_at_66.250.146.159>,
Jon D <jon_d_at_nomail.com> writes:
Quote:
On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
day.
I saw some of the programme. The bits I saw were bullshit.
Can't recall all the issues now, but her comment that a
TV on standby uses 80% of the full-on power was one
of the bits of bullshit which I do recall her saying.
Just remember the programme is meant to be entertainment,
and sadly not educational.
--
Andrew Gabriel
Schrodinger
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:26 pm
"Alex Butcher" <alex.butcher.news0505_at_assursys.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:57:35 +0100, John Jordan wrote:
Jon D wrote:
Surely a modern TV does not use all that much power and more substantial
electrical savings could have been found easily elsewhere?
I'm going to regret replying to a cross-post, but my 21" Hitachi TV uses
70-80W according to my wattmeter.
That sounds pretty typical.
To bring it closer to the topic, this is much less than a 21" CRT
monitor.
She also wanted to limit the time spent by the father on listening to
his micro-system through headphones. I would guess this uses even less
power than a TV.
I'd be surprised if this used more than 30W.
...but probably significantly more than listening to a headphone system
(e.g. iPod, Discman, Walkman) through headphones, which I guess is the
point that was being made.
Dodgy at best - you surely have to factor in the carbon cost of
manufacture - even if he has one already, of LiOn batteries. They have a
limit on how many charges they accept and again, what is the carbon cost of
manufacturing and getting one to market if he ends up buying a replacement
earlier than he would have because of not using his mini system?
Quote:
Best Regards,
Alex.
**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:53 pm
My FORD Expedition only pollutes 15 miles of atmosphere per gallon!
Schrodinger wrote:
Quote:
"Trevor Best" <nospam_at_localhost.invalid> wrote in message
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Schrodinger wrote:
A micro system will use less power than more or less anything in the
house. This is a pathetic attempt at managing someone's lifestyle under
the banner of "the environment". Part of the same logic that calls 4x4s
that have better fuel consumption than many luxury cars bad for the
environment. The government and media is choc full of ill informed dick
heads like this.
I'll have you know my BMW is environmentally friendly, for every gallon of
fuel I put in, it only pollutes 19 miles of atmosphere.
Somebody needs a lesson in Boyle's law.
My FORD Expedition only pollutes 15 miles of atmosphere per gallon!
--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"
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Alex Fraser
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Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:02 pm
"Andrew Gabriel" <andrew_at_cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote:
In article <96E8B693C63D571E5D_at_66.250.146.159>,
Jon D <jon_d_at_nomail.com> writes:
On a recent UK broadcast of "How Green Is Your House" the advisor
said she wanted to limit TV watching from 7 hours a day to 1 hour a
day.
I saw some of the programme. The bits I saw were bullshit.
Can't recall all the issues now, but her comment that a
TV on standby uses 80% of the full-on power was one
of the bits of bullshit which I do recall her saying.
If you watched a TV taking 60W for one hour per day, and left it on standby
taking 10W the rest of the time, then almost 80% of the energy used by the
television would be when it was on standby.
Alex
Paul Hyett
Guest
Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:06 am
In uk.media.tv.misc on Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Funfly3 wrote :
Quote:
adding OT to the beginning of a post does not make it ok to post in the
wrong group ?????
Funny, it thought it *did*. :)
It's not a big deal anyway - it's not like we're still using 800 bit
modems, or 50mb HD's.
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett
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